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Yelling, screaming, and demeaning - obviously, that's toxic in the work environment especially as a leader; but what else can be toxic? More importantly, how can one become aware of this toxic leadership AND CHANGE!?
Jon and Will sit down with return guest, former Navy SEAL and former FBI agent turned leadership consultant / coach, Errol Doebler, to discuss these very things! Join us to learn more.
Check out Errol's company, https://leader193.com, and his online leadership academy, https://leader193.com/online-academy/
Check out our Awareness-to-action Self Mastery COURSE & COMMUNITY:
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Our guest today is a former Navy SEAL teammate of Jon's and principal architect and co-creator of the US Navy’s Warrior Toughness Program; retired Navy SEAL Master Chief Stephen Drum.
During his 27 years of service, Stephen developed and led high-performance teams in combat at every level and in the most challenging and extreme environments. He is now a professional speaker, trainer and author, helping leaders and teams optimize their performance and execution in challenging and high-pressure situations. His first book, Life on the X: A Navy SEAL's Guide to meeting any challenge with Courage, Confidence and Readiness, is set to launch in March 2023 (in the episode we mention October 2022 but it's been pushed back to March, 2023).
Check out Stephen here:
https://stephendrum.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-drum-643695135/
00:00 Mindfully Tough with Stephen Drum
03:00 Introducing Stephen Drum
05:00 Will leads Opening Grounding Practice (~1 min)
07:00 Stephen’s Journey
14:00 Why you need to be more than what you do
18:00 Autopilot vs Mindful Action
21:30 Navy Ranks confuse Will (and the rest of us) again
25:00 How do we figure out and strengthen the basics?
27:00 Mindfulness is for everyone
30:00 The turning point
34:00 Emotion
39:00 Transitioning from Military to Civilian
44:30 Finding Purpose
51:00 SMEAC
57:00 Final Thoughts
59:00 A memorable eureka moment
1:05;00 Stephen leads Closing Practice (~2 min)
Your Hosts:
Will is excited to teach you how to develop self-mastery. From teaching and practicing for the last 19 years, he feels it's a joy to work with long-time practitioners and students that have never tried these practices before or have only dabbled. [email protected]
Jon is a Navy veteran turned mindfulness and meditation teacher. Since ending his 24-year military career in June 2020, Jon is now dedicated to spreading the practices of meditation and mindfulness to help others live happier and more fulfilling lives. [email protected]
Intro, outro, and trailer by Rich Harris www.linkedin.com/in/47project/
Check out our Awareness-to-action Self Mastery COURSE & COMMUNITY:
12 modules on attention, presence & performance. Work at your own pace plus a community built for Inspiration and connection.
1. www.focusnowtraining.com/a2a-Course
JOIN US IN PERSON — Future Events and Retreats.
1. Live in-person event: Warrior Defined.
We will be in Charlotte, NC, September 25, 2026 more info HERE:
Or mentalkingmindfulness.com
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Produced by Robert Lopez | https://www.cratesaudio.com/
“It can hurt to go through life with your heart open, but not as much as it does to go through life with your heart closed!” - Dr. James Doty in his powerful book, into the Magic Shop, A Neurosurgeon’s Quest to Discover the Mysteries of the Brain and the Secrets of the Heart.
Hello and welcome to Men Talking Mindfulness where each week we work to break down and demystify an aspect of mindfulness and make it meaningful to you! This week, we are with Nuerosugeon and NYTimes best seller Dr. James Doty and we will be digging into those mysteries of the brain and secrets of the heart! Dr. Doty is a professor on the faculty of the Stanford University where he founded and is the director of the Stanford Center for Compassion and Altruism Research and Education (CCARE) of which His Holiness the Dalai Lama is the founding benefactor. He is also a neurosurgeon and neuroscientist, he’s an Army veteran, an inventor, a philanthropist, and an author and i just found out today, he’s ALSO a podcast host … his book and his podcast are both entitled Into the Magic Shop and the book has received positive reviews from His Holiness, the Dalai Lama, Thich Nhat Hanh, Jon Kabat-Zinn, Ariana Huffington, Rick Hanson, and Deepak Chopra just to name a few!
He’s also got a new book and a mental health app coming out too! You can find out more about Dr. Doty and all he does at www.jamesrdotymd.com; his book, Into the Magic Shop is available on Amazon and it’s available in multiple languages on his website. And another few bonuses on his site, he’s got the alphabet of the heart compassion beads for sale and he’s even got Ruth’s tricks recorded in audio form for YOU to listen to!
00:00 Into the Magic Shop with Dr. James Doty
02:00 Introducing Dr. James Doty
04:00 Will leads Opening Grounding Practice (~2 min)
06:30 Dr. Doty’s Journey
11:00 Learning mindfulness at a young age
20:00 Don’t be a mindful jerk
31:30 Compassion and kindness are good for your health
46:30 The Alphabet of the Heart
56:30 Dr. Doty leads Closing Practice (~3 min)
Your Hosts:
Will is excited to teach you how to develop self-mastery. From teaching and practicing for the last 19 years, he feels it's a joy to work with long-time practitioners and students that have never tried these practices before or have only dabbled. [email protected]
Jon is a Navy veteran turned mindfulness and meditation teacher. Since ending his 24-year military career in June 2020, Jon is now dedicated to spreading the practices of meditation and mindfulness to help others live happier and more fulfilling lives. [email protected]
Intro, outro, and trailer by Rich Harris www.linkedin.com/in/47project/
Check out our Awareness-to-action Self Mastery COURSE & COMMUNITY:
12 modules on attention, presence & performance. Work at your own pace plus a community built for Inspiration and connection.
1. www.focusnowtraining.com/a2a-Course
JOIN US IN PERSON — Future Events and Retreats.
1. Live in-person event: Warrior Defined.
We will be in Charlotte, NC, September 25, 2026 more info HERE:
Or mentalkingmindfulness.com
GET MORE FROM MTM:
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Produced by Robert Lopez | https://www.cratesaudio.com/
While driving through Colorado and into New Mexico on our their way to picking up their students for MTM's FIRST Mindulness Adventure Retreat, Will and Jon dive into the importance of honoring your word.
We had fun discussing:
Are you keeping your word? Enjoy this episode and find out why and how it could change everything for you. IF you chose to honor your word.
Your Hosts:
Jon is a Navy veteran turned mindfulness and meditation teacher. Since ending his 24-year military career in June 2020, Jon is now dedicated to spreading the practices of meditation and mindfulness to help others live happier and more fulfilling lives. [email protected] Intro, outro, and trailer by Rich Harris www.linkedin.com/in/47project/
IG:@mentalkingmindfulness
Mentalkingminfulness.com
Check out our Awareness-to-action Self Mastery COURSE & COMMUNITY:
12 modules on attention, presence & performance. Work at your own pace plus a community built for Inspiration and connection.
1. www.focusnowtraining.com/a2a-Course
JOIN US IN PERSON — Future Events and Retreats.
1. Live in-person event: Warrior Defined.
We will be in Charlotte, NC, September 25, 2026 more info HERE:
Or mentalkingmindfulness.com
GET MORE FROM MTM:
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Produced by Robert Lopez | https://www.cratesaudio.com/
Check out our Awareness-to-action Self Mastery COURSE & COMMUNITY:
12 modules on attention, presence & performance. Work at your own pace plus a community built for Inspiration and connection.
1. www.focusnowtraining.com/a2a-Course
JOIN US IN PERSON — Future Events and Retreats.
1. Live in-person event: Warrior Defined.
We will be in Charlotte, NC, September 25, 2026 more info HERE:
Or mentalkingmindfulness.com
GET MORE FROM MTM:
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Produced by Robert Lopez | https://www.cratesaudio.com/
“Fear is not real. The only place that fear can exist is in our thoughts of the future. It is a product of our imagination, causing us to fear things that do not at present and may not ever exist. That is near insanity Kitai. Do not misunderstand me, danger is very real, but fear is a choice.” - Will Smith as Cypher Raige in the movie After Earth
Welcome back to Men Talking Mindfulness or MTM - thank you for being here with us!
Each week we break down and work to demystify an aspect of mindfulness and make it meaningful to you! This Episode we are going to become more mindful of FEAR - we started talking about this a little last week in our episode with William Branum - this week we are going to learn where fear comes from, what you can do to overcome it and how to use it as a guide to your greatness.
Announcements (Will)
00:00 Facing Your Fears
03:00 Will leads Opening Ground Practice (~2 min)
05:00 Is Fear Good or Bad? How should we deal with it?
09:00 Irrational Fear
12:00 The science of fear
BREATHE: Breathe / Rhythmic / Even / Always / Through / Heart / Everyday
15:00 Forms of Fear (failure, imperfection, etc.)
25:00 Audience Fears (imposter syndrome, rejection, success, etc.)
50:00 Overcoming Fear
1:07:00 Jon leads Closing Practice (~3 min)
Your Hosts:
Will is excited to teach you how to develop self-mastery. From teaching and practicing for the last 19 years, he feels it's a joy to work with long-time practitioners and students that have never tried these practices before or have only dabbled. [email protected]
Jon is a Navy veteran turned mindfulness and meditation teacher. Since ending his 24-year military career in June 2020, Jon is now dedicated to spreading the practices of meditation and mindfulness to help others live happier and more fulfilling lives. [email protected]
Intro, outro, and trailer by Rich Harris www.linkedin.com/in/47project/
Check out our Awareness-to-action Self Mastery COURSE & COMMUNITY:
12 modules on attention, presence & performance. Work at your own pace plus a community built for Inspiration and connection.
1. www.focusnowtraining.com/a2a-Course
JOIN US IN PERSON — Future Events and Retreats.
1. Live in-person event: Warrior Defined.
We will be in Charlotte, NC, September 25, 2026 more info HERE:
Or mentalkingmindfulness.com
GET MORE FROM MTM:
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Produced by Robert Lopez | https://www.cratesaudio.com/
“Failure has been one of the biggest teachers of my life. Failure has taught me lessons and given me experiences that no amount of money could ever buy.” - that’s from our guest on today’s show, William Branum - former Navy SEAL, CEO of 5 SEAL Secrets and Naked Warrior Recovery supplements.
Welcome to Men Talking Mindfulness or MTM where each week we break down and demystify an aspect of mindfulness and make it meaningful to you!
Today, we will be talking with William about the SEAL Secrets, vulnerability, overcoming challenges, and growing and recovering… but first…
Announcements
Guest Bio:
William is a retired Navy SEAL and SEAL Sniper Instructor. He is the founder of Naked Warrior Recovery, a CBD company focusing on ending veteran suicide. He is a public speaker and coach where he shares his 5 SEAL Secrets and draws from his 26 years of experience in the SEAL Teams to train CEOs and other high performers.
From the battlefield to the board room, he teaches leaders how to lead like they are leading a SEAL Team. He focuses on the culture of the organization to help turn employees into Team members.
https://www.5sealsecrets.com/5-seal-secret
https://nw-recovery.com
00:00 Getting NAKED with William Branum
04:00 Introducing William
05:30 It’s Jon’s Birthday - Let’s Get NAKED!
07:00 Will leads Opening Grounding Practice (~2 min)
10:00 William’s journey from NAVY Seal to CEO and beyond
40:00 The Power of Vulnerability
47:00 N = Never Quit
54:00 A = Accept Failure
55:30 K = Kill Mediocrity
1:01:00 E = Expose Your Fears
1:04:00 D = Do the Work
1:10:30 William’s back!
1:19:00 HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JON!
1:20:00 Jon leads Closing Practice (~2 min)
Your Hosts:
Will is excited to teach you how to develop self-mastery. From teaching and practicing for the last 19 years, he feels it's a joy to work with long-time practitioners and students that have never tried these practices before or have only dabbled. [email protected]
Jon is a Navy veteran turned mindfulness and meditation teacher. Since ending his 24-year military career in June 2020, Jon is now dedicated to spreading the practices of meditation and mindfulness to help others live happier and more fulfilling lives. [email protected]
Intro, outro, and trailer by Rich Harris www.linkedin.com/in/47project/
Check out our Awareness-to-action Self Mastery COURSE & COMMUNITY:
12 modules on attention, presence & performance. Work at your own pace plus a community built for Inspiration and connection.
1. www.focusnowtraining.com/a2a-Course
JOIN US IN PERSON — Future Events and Retreats.
1. Live in-person event: Warrior Defined.
We will be in Charlotte, NC, September 25, 2026 more info HERE:
Or mentalkingmindfulness.com
GET MORE FROM MTM:
Text MTM to 33777 — free weekly newsletter
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2. FNT: focusnowtraining.com
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Produced by Robert Lopez | https://www.cratesaudio.com/
Join Will and Jon as they interview Hyperlite Mountain Gear co-founder and CFO, Dan St. Pierre, to discuss "Heartfulness!" Dan is the co-founder and CFO of Hyperlite Mountain Gear, which is the leader in ultralight backcountry gear.
Under the design philosophy of essentialism, Hyperlite manufactures and sells backpacks, tents, and accessories that are used from the Appalachian Trail to Mt. Everest and about anywhere in between. But Dan was not always in this industry. He graduated from Penn’s Wharton School of Business and spent his twenties working in corporate finance in New York City and Boston. Slowly disheartened by a corporate existence, and hearing the faint calling for adventure. Dan then spent his thirties working seasonally as a waiter, traveling, studying spirituality, and writing. He spent over a year in India practicing yoga, meditation, and heartfulness, and he has written a few million words in the pursuit of spiritual understanding and expanded consciousness.
He then spent his forties starting and building both Hyperlite Mountain Gear and a family while continuing to refine his spiritual practice and understanding. He recently finished a book titled All One: The United Anatomy of Being, (which for full disclosure is not yet published).
Dan YouTube “All One Aware” https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7Ll2Tq_3tRJ8_MFlLsE9YA Announcements
Retreat: We have teamed up with MovementRx and Dr. Theresa Larson to put on our Mindfulness Adventure Retreat Sept 16-19th in beautiful Durango, CO at the Colorado Trails Ranch and this includes a follow on 4 week integration program … If you book your retreat before 10 August you get $200 off and if you are part of an organization that books 4 or more, you get $500 off PER PERSON!! We would love for you to join us! To learn more head to - https://mentalkingmindfulness.com/retreat.
Timestamps
00:30 Living with Heartfulness with Dan St. Pierre
04:00 Introducing Dan St. Pierre
07:00 Jon leads Opening Grounding Practice (~4 min)
12:00 Dan’s journey 21:00 What is a “seeker?”
27:00 The separation and unification of energy
33:30 How can Heartfulness help us live better?
38:00 The difference between the mind and the heart
46:00 How does someone get started?
51:30 Love and Fear
1:01:00 Reaching the "Summer" of the Human Existence
1:09:00 Dan leads Closing Practice (~1 min)
Join our Whoop Team - Whoop is a wearable that tracks your biometrics. Join the MTM accountability group with code COMM-7B67F6 Don't have a Whoop? Get a free WHOOP 4.0 and one month free when you join with our link join.whoop.com/FB4633
Your Hosts:
Will is excited to teach you how to develop self-mastery. From teaching and practicing for the last 19 years, he feels it's a joy to work with long-time practitioners and students that have never tried these practices before or have only dabbled. [email protected]
Jon is a Navy veteran turned mindfulness and meditation teacher. Since ending his 24-year military career in June 2020, Jon is now dedicated to spreading the practices of meditation and mindfulness to help others live happier and more fulfilling lives. [email protected]
Intro, outro, and trailer by Rich Harris www.linkedin.com/in/47project/
Check out our Awareness-to-action Self Mastery COURSE & COMMUNITY:
12 modules on attention, presence & performance. Work at your own pace plus a community built for Inspiration and connection.
1. www.focusnowtraining.com/a2a-Course
JOIN US IN PERSON — Future Events and Retreats.
1. Live in-person event: Warrior Defined.
We will be in Charlotte, NC, September 25, 2026 more info HERE:
Or mentalkingmindfulness.com
GET MORE FROM MTM:
Text MTM to 33777 — free weekly newsletter
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Produced by Robert Lopez | https://www.cratesaudio.com/
Let's talk with former Army Ranger and former McKinsey Consultant turned mindfulness and psychedelic aficionado, Beckley Retreat CEO, Neil Markey. In this episode we will cover magic mushrooms and masculinity...
- the science behind this all
- the benefits
- the SET and SETTING
and how this is all tied together!
More about Beckley Retreats here: https://www.beckleyretreats.com
Our first MTM joint experience with Psychedelics with Neil and Beckley Retreats:
Watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukE1OFDL46M
Listen here: https://pod.fo/e/fb547
Our second MTM joint experience with Psychedelics with Neil and Beckley Retreats:
Watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaNirk3e6bU
Listen here: https://pod.fo/e/fd04e
Timestamps
00:00 The Magic in Magic Mushrooms with Neil Markey
05:30 Neil’s Journey
22:30 Neil meets Amanda Fielding
27:00 Professionalism in Psychedelics
32:00 The science!
38:00 What psychedelics are doing for men
45:00 The Beckley Method
Check out our Awareness-to-action Self Mastery COURSE & COMMUNITY:
12 modules on attention, presence & performance. Work at your own pace plus a community built for Inspiration and connection.
1. www.focusnowtraining.com/a2a-Course
JOIN US IN PERSON — Future Events and Retreats.
1. Live in-person event: Warrior Defined.
We will be in Charlotte, NC, September 25, 2026 more info HERE:
Or mentalkingmindfulness.com
GET MORE FROM MTM:
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Produced by Robert Lopez | https://www.cratesaudio.com/
We all walk around with a mask on... sometimes what is within is pure rage! Let's talk about this - on this episode of Men Talking Mindfulness, Jon and Will talk about their rage within, what causes it, and ways to process and manage it!
Announcements Retreat: We have teamed up with MovementRx and Dr. Theresa Larson to put on our Mindfulness Adventure Retreat Sept 16-19th in beautiful Durango, CO at the Colorado Trails Ranch and this includes a follow on 4 week integration program … If you book your retreat before 10 August you get $200 off and if you are part of an organization that books 4 or more, you get $500 off PER PERSON!! We would love for you to join us! To learn more head to - https://mentalkingmindfulness.com/retreat or listen to Will, Theresa, and myself talking about it on our most recent episode.
Timestamps
00:30 Our Rage Within
04:30 Jon leads Opening Grounding Practice (~4 min)
09:00 Why rage?
12:30 Defining Rage
19:00 Will’s rage in Vipassana
23:00 Commander Macaskill is in the house
27:00 Social Media as a Rage Arena
35:00 How do we deal with rage in a healthy way?
49:30 The role of Pride and Apology
58:00 Loving Kindness Meditation (Metta)
1:00:30 Therapy for rage 1:08:00 Detaching from results
1:10:00 Will leads Closing Practice (~2 min)
Join our Whoop Team - Whoop is a wearable that tracks your biometrics. Join the MTM accountability group with code COMM-7B67F6 Don't have a Whoop? Get a free WHOOP 4.0 and one month free when you join with our link join.whoop.com/FB4633
Your Hosts: Will is excited to teach you how to develop self-mastery. From teaching and practicing for the last 19 years, he feels it's a joy to work with long-time practitioners and students that have never tried these practices before or have only dabbled. [email protected]
Jon is a Navy veteran turned mindfulness and meditation teacher. Since ending his 24-year military career in June 2020, Jon is now dedicated to spreading the practices of meditation and mindfulness to help others live happier and more fulfilling lives. [email protected]
Intro, outro, and trailer by Rich Harris www.linkedin.com/in/47project/
Check out our Awareness-to-action Self Mastery COURSE & COMMUNITY:
12 modules on attention, presence & performance. Work at your own pace plus a community built for Inspiration and connection.
1. www.focusnowtraining.com/a2a-Course
JOIN US IN PERSON — Future Events and Retreats.
1. Live in-person event: Warrior Defined.
We will be in Charlotte, NC, September 25, 2026 more info HERE:
Or mentalkingmindfulness.com
GET MORE FROM MTM:
Text MTM to 33777 — free weekly newsletter
1. Subscribe: mentalkingmindfulness.com
2. FNT: focusnowtraining.com
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Produced by Robert Lopez | https://www.cratesaudio.com/
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