Mind Behind The Crime | The Psychology Of Killers

Mind Behind The Crime | The Psychology Of Killers

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  • WEEK IN REVIEW-Did Kohberger Kill To Gain Attention From Women In Jail?
    Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
        
     This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.
        
     Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.

     Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle.
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    12 min
  • Why Are So Many MONSTERS Coming Out of The LDS Church?
    Have you ever wondered why there seems to be a disproportionate number of cases involving members of the LDS Church, both current and former, who have been accused of serious crimes? This issue has been brought up multiple times on the podcast "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski. In a recent episode, Brueski sat down with author and former defense attorney Lori Hellis to discuss the troubling trend of fantastical thinking within the LDS community, which in some cases, has led to heinous crimes.
     
     Hellis explains that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which claims 17 million members worldwide, is separate from the 70 to 80 splinter organizations that still follow the teachings of Joseph Smith. However, what is more concerning, according to Hellis, is the movement within the mainstream LDS Church of faithful members who subscribe to end times philosophies. This movement gained momentum in 2012 with the publication of the book “Visions of Glory,” which has created a groundswell of end times believers.
     
     "The church is very much not just a faith, but it’s also a culture and a very insulated culture," Hellis notes. This insulation, she argues, makes it easier for members to buy into the belief that they are God’s chosen people and that the end times are near. Hellis suggests that this could lead to more cases like Lori Vallow Daybell and Chad Daybell, who believed they were called by God to lead the 144,000 and took drastic measures in the name of their beliefs.
     
     Lori Vallow Daybell and Chad Daybell were involved in a series of events that resulted in the deaths of Lori’s two children, Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow, as well as Chad’s previous wife, Tammy Daybell. The couple’s beliefs in end times and their supposed divine missions were central to the investigation, with Lori believing that her children had become zombies and needed to die to be freed from their possessed states.
     
     Hellis posits that while Lori and Chad’s belief system was on the extreme end of the spectrum, they were part of a much larger movement within the LDS Church. She goes on to suggest that we may see a major schism within the church in the next decade due to these extremist beliefs.
     
     The conversation also touches on the recent cases of Jodi Hildebrandt and Ruby Franke, and the abduction of young Blaise Thibodeau, all of which have connections to the end times movement within the LDS community. Hellis points out that many of these cases are interconnected with the LDS mental health system, raising concerns about the church’s role and responsibility in these incidents.
     
     Hellis does not want to denigrate the LDS Church, acknowledging that there are many faithful members who thrive in the church’s community. However, she emphasizes the need for accountability within the church, urging those who are faithful to the church to stand up and speak out against these extremist beliefs.
     
     "I think it’s incumbent on those people who are faithful to the church to stand up and say, this is not what we believe and this is not what we condone," Hellis states.
     
     Brueski agrees, adding that it is crucial for members of any organization to take action if they notice something wrong. "Stand up if something’s wrong, raise your hand and work to fix it," he urges.
     
     The conversation between Brueski and Hellis sheds light on a concerning trend within the LDS community, prompting important questions about the role of religious beliefs in violent crimes and the responsibility of religious communities to prevent these beliefs from turning deadly. As the episode draws to a close, one can't help but ponder: How can a faith community balance respecting individual beliefs while also preventing those beliefs from spiraling into dangerous fanaticism?
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    11 min
  • Do We Really Need to Try Lori Vallow Again?
    Have you ever wondered what goes on in the mind of someone accused of heinous crimes, standing unrepentant and seemingly disconnected from reality? The puzzling saga of Lori Vallow Daybell, who is now heading back to Arizona to face murder charges for the death of her former husband, Charles Vallow, presents us with such a conundrum. Dr. John Delatorre, a renowned psychologist, joins Tony Brueski on the "Hidden Killers" podcast to delve into the perplexing psyche of Lori Vallow and the implications of her upcoming trial.
     
     Lori Vallow's case has captivated the nation, as it spirals into deeper levels of complexity and mystery. At her sentencing hearing, Vallow displayed a disturbing conviction in her beliefs, regardless of how detached they seemed from reality. "I'm really just basing it on the last little bits and pieces that we heard from her at the sentencing hearing where she fully believed her... Just as strong as ever," Brueski remarks, setting the stage for a discussion on the mental state of Lori Vallow and the justice that awaits her.
     
     Dr. Delatorre expresses his disbelief at Lori’s statements during her sentencing, highlighting her inappropriate and delusional expressions of being a good mother and her children being in a better place. He challenges the notion that Lori sees herself in a godly light, distinguishing between being god-fearing and being delusional. "I think she views herself that way, but I don't believe that she actually is," he asserts, providing a critical perspective on Vallow’s self-perception.
     
     The conversation shifts to Lori's upcoming trial and the inevitable question: Is she fit to stand trial? Dr. Delatorre raises concerns about the need to go through with another trial when the outcome may not change Lori’s situation significantly, given she is already serving a life sentence in Idaho. He emphasizes the importance of following legal procedures but questions the philosophical aspect of justice in Lori’s case. "If the person doesn't know that what they're receiving is punishment or doesn't acknowledge that what they're going through is punishment, then is the victim in the case actually receiving justice?" he asks, challenging the traditional notions of justice.
     
     Brueski brings in the perspective of the victim’s family, wondering if the pursuit of justice might actually re-victimize them by dragging them through another trial. Dr. Delatorre acknowledges this concern, pointing out that the state has been harmed and has a stake in the prosecution, regardless of the victim's family's wishes. "Sometimes we just need to follow the proper procedure when it comes to an offense occurring with of the laws in that state," he concludes, highlighting the complexity of the justice system and its role in cases like Lori Vallow’s.
     
     As Lori Vallow Daybell heads back to Arizona to face yet another trial, the world watches with bated breath, trying to comprehend the mind behind the madness. Is she a religious zealot, a master manipulator, or a woman completely disconnected from reality? Dr. John Delatorre’s insights shed light on these questions, but the enigma of Lori Vallow remains. As we ponder the pursuit of justice and the wellbeing of the victim’s family, one cannot help but wonder: Is there a point where the pursuit of justice becomes a futile endeavor, poking a stick at a mentally ill individual, or is it our societal duty to follow through, no matter how perplexing the case may be?
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    The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
    7 min
  • Lori Vallow Daybell Is in For One HELL Of A Road Trip
    Could the impending transfer and potential retrial of Lori Vallow Daybell signal a significant shift in one of the most captivating legal sagas in recent history? This question looms large as we delve into a complex narrative brought to the fore in the latest episode of "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski. The episode features an in-depth discussion with Lori Hellis, a former defense attorney and author, providing keen insights on the mental health aspects, legal intricacies, and the stark differences between the legal proceedings in Idaho and Arizona.
     
     The conversation takes a critical turn as it addresses Governor Brad Little’s recent executive decision to extradite Lori Vallow Daybell to Arizona on charges of conspiracy to commit murder. This comes in the wake of an ongoing appeal process concerning her initial trial, introducing an array of legal and psychological considerations. Hellis aptly notes, "There's a lot of things to question about another Lori Vallow trial." The discussion underscores the paramount importance of addressing mental health issues within the legal context, particularly when they are as intricate and severe as they appear in Lori's case.
     
     Hellis reflects on the uniqueness of the case, stating, "Lori Vallow is an enigma. She was functional on a day-to-day basis yet harbored deep and dangerous delusions." This duality poses a considerable challenge for the legal system, aiming to ensure justice while addressing the defendant's mental health needs appropriately.
     
     In drawing parallels with Lori’s previous legal proceedings, Hellis highlights the idiosyncrasies of Idaho’s legal system, which notably does not permit a 'not guilty by reason of insanity' defense. This starkly contrasts with Arizona's legal stance, opening up a myriad of possibilities for Lori’s defense team and potentially paving the way for a different outcome.
     
     The lack of a robust defense in the original trial is a focal point of the conversation, with Hellis pointing out, "One of the reasons we didn't see a defense was because she really limited what her defense attorneys could say." This self-imposed limitation significantly hindered Lori's defense strategy, leaving many to wonder if a different approach might be adopted in Arizona, given the state’s different legal provisions regarding mental health.
     
     The forthcoming trial of Chad Daybell, Lori’s husband, also casts a long shadow on the proceedings. Hellis anticipates a vigorous defense strategy from Chad’s legal team, potentially shifting blame onto Lori. "I think we're going to see Lori was the femme fatale and Chad was just the dupe," Hellis speculates, setting the stage for a dramatic and potentially revealing court battle.
     
     Hellis does not mince words when discussing the arduous journey Lori faces en route to Arizona, detailing the grueling and dehumanizing process prisoners often undergo during interstate transfers. This stark depiction serves as a poignant reminder of the harsh realities of the criminal justice system, a journey Lori must endure before facing her day in court once again.
     
     The episode concludes with a potent question, pondering the unpredictable nature of high-profile legal battles and leaving listeners to reflect on the myriad of variables that could influence the final chapter of Lori Vallow Daybell’s tumultuous story. As Hellis aptly puts it, "You never can predict except that it might be unpredictable." This sentiment encapsulates the essence of the Lori Vallow Daybell saga, a complex tapestry of legal battles, psychological turmoil, and unforeseen twists that continue to captivate and confound observers worldwide.
     
     As Lori Vallow Daybell’s journey through the legal system continues, one question remains at the forefront: Will the Arizona trial provide clarity and closure, or will it only deepen the mystery surrounding one of the most enigmatic legal cases in recent memory? Only time will tell, but one thing is certain: the world will be watching.
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    12 min
  • Can Jury Tampering Be Proven in Alex Murdaugh Trial?
    Is the quest for justice in the Alex Murdaugh case blurring the lines between right and wrong, and revealing deep-seated issues within the South Carolina legal system? These are the questions that Tony Brueski and former defense attorney, Lori Hellis, tackle in a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast as they discuss the shocking allegations of jury tampering and potential misconduct by Colleton County Clerk of Court, Rebecca Hill.
     
    Alex Murdaugh has officially filed a motion in state court seeking a new trial, citing allegations of jury tampering and potentially damning misconduct. Hill, who remains in her position and denies the allegations, is at the center of this legal maelstrom. Lori Hellis, with her extensive background in law, provides a nuanced perspective on the implications of these allegations.
     
     "If those allegations are true, and the judge who hears the motion believes that jurors could have been influenced by those comments, then Alex Murdaugh is entitled to a new trial," Hellis explains. This statement underscores the gravity of the situation, highlighting the importance of integrity and fairness within the legal system.
     
     Hellis goes on to discuss the broader issues plaguing South Carolina's justice system, pointing out the incestuous relationships and revolving doors between law enforcement, legislators, judges, and lawyers. "The level of corruption, the level of control that a small number of people have over the justice system, is troubling," Hellis remarks, emphasizing the urgent need for reform and transparency.
     
     The conversation takes a darker turn as they delve into the murky waters of Alex Murdaugh’s lead counsel, Jim Griffin, and his role as a legislator, raising questions about potential conflicts of interest and undue influence. The possibility of third-party interference, particularly by the clerk of the court, adds another layer of complexity to the case.
     
     The discussion shifts to Rebecca Hill's book and her public statements, scrutinizing them for potential clues or admissions of guilt. Hellis reads between the lines, questioning Hill’s motivations and the potential impact of her words on the trial. "Did she have an agenda? You have to wonder," Hellis muses, leaving the audience to draw their own conclusions.
     
     As the podcast episode comes to a close, Brueski and Hellis ponder the broader implications of the case. "Is this just how things run at that court in South Carolina? Is this an isolated incident, or a symptom of a systemic issue?" Brueski asks, challenging the audience to think critically about the state of the justice system, not just in South Carolina, but across the nation.
     
     In the end, the conversation leaves listeners with more questions than answers, and a lingering sense of unease about the state of justice in South Carolina. The Alex Murdaugh case has peeled back the curtain, revealing a system rife with corruption, influence, and secrecy. As Hellis aptly notes, "These kinds of cases always create an avalanche effect."
     
     The "Hidden Killers" podcast has once again succeeded in shedding light on the dark corners of the legal world, challenging its listeners to question everything and settle for nothing less than the truth. As the saga of Alex Murdaugh continues to unfold, one can't help but wonder: what other secrets are hiding in the shadows, and what will it take to bring them to light?

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    9 min
  • Was Genetic Genealogy Evidence in Kohberger Case Gathered Legally?
    Is the battle over DNA evidence in the Bryan Kohberger case a pivotal moment for justice or a potential loophole for defense? This intriguing question sets the stage for our discussion with Lori Hellis, a former defense attorney and author, on the latest episode of "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski.
     
    In a case as complex and high-profile as Bryan Kohberger’s, every piece of evidence, every legal motion, and every argument in court comes under intense scrutiny. The recent debate about access to genetic genealogy and DNA evidence has raised eyebrows and posed critical questions about the prosecution’s methods and the defense’s rights.
     
     Hellis explains that while the defense does have access to the DNA evidence, what they are really after is an understanding of how the genetic genealogy led the prosecution to Kohberger, eventually linking him to his parent's house in Pennsylvania and leading to his arrest. "They want to know how the sausage is made,” Hellis puts it succinctly, emphasizing the infancy of the field of genetic genealogy and the uncharted territory the case is navigating.
     
     In a world where commercial DNA databases have agreements in place to protect user information from law enforcement, there lies a significant challenge for the defense. They want to ensure that these databases were not misused in obtaining evidence against Kohberger. Hellis remarks, “It's a little bit difficult for them to be certain that those databases weren't misused unless they get the raw data of where these database connections were made.”
     
     Hellis anticipates that judges will increasingly require the prosecution to provide detailed information on how they connected the dots using genetic genealogy. This move towards transparency is not only expected but necessary, as it ensures that both parties are playing fair and that the evidence brought forth is obtained legally and ethically.
     
     But what is at stake for the defense? Hellis outlines a clear goal: to prove that the evidence was obtained in a way that violated Kohberger’s rights, making it inadmissible in court. She likens it to an illegal search, emphasizing the importance of the Fourth Amendment in protecting citizens' rights against unlawful searches and seizures.
     
     If the defense is successful in proving that the evidence was obtained illegally, it could deal a significant blow to the prosecution’s case. However, Hellis argues that while it would weaken the case, it may not be fatal. There are other pieces of evidence and indications of probable cause that could potentially underpin Kohberger’s arrest and the subsequent search of his parent's home.
     
     Hellis’s insights highlight a critical aspect of the legal system: the importance of transparency, legality, and ethical conduct in the pursuit of justice. She points out that while the government has nearly unlimited resources, the defendant often does not, underscoring the necessity for both parties to play fair and observe the rules.
     
     As our discussion with Lori Hellis comes to a close, we are left with another intriguing question: How will the fight over DNA evidence and genetic genealogy impact the Bryan Kohberger case, and what does it mean for the future of legal proceedings in such complex and high-profile cases? Only time will tell, but one thing is certain: the legal community and the public will be watching closely, ensuring that justice is served, and rights are protected.

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    13 min
  • Will Ellen Greenberg Civil Suit Reveal the Name Of Her Killer?
    In the latest episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast with Tony Brueski, the compelling case of Ellen Greenberg takes center stage. The topic raises a haunting question: Will the relentless pursuit of justice ever bring closure to Ellen's grieving parents? Dr. John Delatorre, a psychologist, joins the discussion, unraveling the complexities of this enigmatic case that has left many perplexed.
     
     Ellen Greenberg's parents are currently appealing to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court after a lower court ruling denied them the standing to change their daughter's cause of death from suicide to homicide. The case is a baffling web of frustration, as all the pieces seem to be in place for justice, yet every step forward is met with an obstacle.
     
     Among the most unsettling aspects of this case is the presence of a knife, a key piece of evidence. Shockingly, this knife remains untouched in a Philadelphia police locker, never fingerprinted. Alongside this, Ellen's phone and diary, potential treasure troves of information for a homicide investigation, languish in the same locker. It's a confounding situation where crucial evidence remains unexamined, painting a surreal picture of the justice system's shortcomings.
     
     For Ellen's family, the emotional toll is immeasurable. Dr. Delatorre suggests that when faced with such a shocking tragedy, one can experience disbelief that this is happening. The emotions may not always be intense but rather a numbing sense of incredulity. It's a surreal nightmare where reality defies belief, leaving a family grappling with negative emotions while striving to do what's best for their beloved daughter's memory.
     
     However, a pertinent question emerges from this ordeal: Is it mentally wise for Ellen's parents to persist in their pursuit of justice, given the endless roadblocks? The torment they endure, the apparent cover-ups, and the bureaucratic barriers create a painful journey. Dr. Delatorre acknowledges that the decision ultimately lies with the family, but he emphasizes the unending bond of parental love, which compels them to seek answers relentlessly.
     
     Despite the overwhelming challenges, Ellen's parents continue their quest for justice. Their tenacity has now led them to pursue a civil suit, currently in the discovery phase. With all criminal avenues seemingly exhausted, the civil suit represents their last hope for accountability. The key question, however, is whether this pursuit through the civil trial will uncover enough evidence to initiate a criminal investigation.
     
     The possibility of arrests and prosecutions looms, and individuals connected to the case may find themselves under scrutiny. The fate of the evidence locked away in Philadelphia's police lockers may hold the key to unraveling this mystifying puzzle and potentially revealing the identity of those responsible for Ellen's tragic demise.
     
     As the podcast delves into the case, the two main theories emerge: one involving a possible cover-up orchestrated by the murderer and another suggesting egregious police incompetence. The latter theory is compounded by the deplorable mishandling of the case from its inception. While it is tempting to focus solely on these two narratives, Dr. Delatorre reminds us that investigations can branch out in unexpected directions.
     
     Acknowledging the multitude of possible scenarios, the critical factor remains the evidence that can be substantiated. Dr. Delatorre highlights that the civil trial may shed light on why these grave mistakes occurred and offer insights into the bafflingly sloppy police work surrounding this case.
     
     In the end, Ellen Greenberg's case serves as a testament to the unyielding resolve of parents who refuse to let their daughter's memory fade into obscurity. As they persist in their quest for justice, questions linger: Is there a cover-up? Or was it truly a case of extraordinary police incompetence? Will the evidence reveal new, unforeseen perspectives on this perplexing tragedy? The enigma of Ellen Greenberg's death continues to perplex, but her parents remain undeterred in their pursuit of answers, determined to honor her memory with truth and accountability.

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    9 min
  • Will Lori Vallow Daybell’s Mental State Prevent AZ Trial?
    Is justice truly achievable when the accused appears to be detached from reality? This is the burning question as Arizona prepares for the trial of Lori Vallow Daybell, who faces murder conspiracy charges in connection to the death of her fourth husband, Charles Vallow, and the attempted murder of her niece's ex-husband, Brandon Boudreaux. The complexity of this case and Lori's mental state add layers of intrigue and heartbreak to an already tragic story.
     
     Last year, Brandon Boudreaux testified in a trial related to this saga, shedding light on the harrowing events that have unfolded. However, as Lori Vallow Daybell now faces another trial, many, including Tony Brueski, the host of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, are left wondering what to expect, and more importantly, questioning Lori's mental competence to stand trial.
     
     In the latest episode of "Hidden Killers," Tony Brueski, alongside psychotherapist and author Shavaun Scott, delve into the intricacies of Lori’s mental state, the implications for the trial, and the broader impact on the families involved. Lori’s perplexing behavior, including her seemingly delusional state during the sentencing hearing of her previous trial, raises red flags about her connection to reality. “This doesn't seem like someone that is really competent to be standing trial or understanding anything that's going to be happening,” Tony Brueski comments.
     
     Shavaun Scott shares this concern, highlighting Lori's detachment from reality. “Lori has left planet earth,” she remarks, emphasizing the severity of Lori’s mental state. The discussion raises critical questions about the role of mental illness in the legal proceedings and whether justice can truly be served when the accused may not fully grasp the gravity of their actions.
     
     The case of Lori Vallow Daybell is complex and heart-wrenching, with multiple victims and a twisted trail of beliefs and actions. Charles Vallow, Lori’s late husband, is at the center of the murder conspiracy charges, and his family seeks justice. However, as Tony and Shavaun point out, achieving justice in this case is not straightforward.
     
     “When the person you're seeking to punish doesn’t feel a bit of that punishment, thinks that they are doing their intended godly duty and spreading their twisted message to the world... Are you getting justice?” Tony questions. This disconnection between Lori’s perception of her actions and the pursuit of justice creates a challenging scenario for the legal system and the families seeking closure.
     
     Shavaun suggests that a guilty verdict may provide a sense of validation for the families affected, but it is unlikely to impact Lori’s understanding of her actions or her sense of responsibility. The question of Lori’s competency to stand trial is a looming concern, with both Tony and Shavaun expressing doubts about her ability to participate meaningfully in her defense.
     
     With the death penalty off the table, the focus shifts to finding the most appropriate setting for Lori, should she be found guilty. Shavaun advocates for a forensic mental hospital, emphasizing the need for a controlled environment that acknowledges Lori’s mental illness while ensuring she does not pose a threat to society.
     
     Beyond the immediate implications of the trial, the conversation turns to the potential lessons that can be drawn from Lori Vallow Daybell’s story. Shavaun emphasizes the importance of recognizing signs of psychosis and taking them seriously, pointing to the missed opportunities for intervention in Lori’s case.
     
     The episode of "Hidden Killers" sheds light on the intricate and tragic story of Lori Vallow Daybell, leaving listeners with a crucial question to ponder: In cases of severe mental illness, where the accused may not fully comprehend their actions, what does justice truly look like, and how can society ensure it is served?

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    8 min
  • Will 'Prison Justice' Prevail on Joran Van Der Sloot?
    Did Natalee Holloway get justice with Joran Van Der Sloot's admission the other day of the fact that he did kill her?" This haunting question lingers over one of the most perplexing cases in recent memory. The podcast "Hidden Killers" recently delved into this topic, sparking a thought-provoking conversation between host Tony Brueski and Psychologist John Delatorre.
     
     The admission that Tony Brueski referred to is Joran Van Der Sloot's confession, which has left many wondering whether justice has truly been served. Van Der Sloot, infamous for his ever-evolving narratives, has confessed to Natalee Holloway's murder, but his credibility remains in question. His confession has not led to criminal penalties in the United States, and he is expected to be a free man in approximately 20 years, following his incarceration in Aruba.
     
     The crucial distinction between justice and closure lies at the heart of this case. While Beth Holloway, Natalee's mother, has expressed a sense of closure, the question of whether Natalee received justice is far from resolved. John Delatorre, a psychologist, offered his perspective, saying, "I don't believe Natalee Holloway got justice because she's dead and she's never coming back. And this man took her life."
     
     Indeed, the tragic reality is that Natalee Holloway lost her life, and no outcome can fully rectify that. While Van Der Sloot's confession may have brought a sense of closure to some, the lack of a credible account of the events raises questions about justice.
     
     As John Delatorre pointed out, Van Der Sloot's numerous conflicting accounts of what happened to Natalee further erode his credibility. He has changed his story multiple times, making it challenging to accept his latest confession as the definitive truth. Delatorre astutely observed, "He has made story after story, probably seven different stories at this point as to how everything went down. He has no credibility. He could say whatever he wants."
     
     The complex legal landscape of this case adds another layer of uncertainty. Originally, it was believed that Van Der Sloot would serve his sentence in Aruba and then face additional charges in the United States. However, the final agreement dictates that he will serve 20 years consecutively in Aruba. This leaves many questions about whether he will ever face justice in the United States for Natalee Holloway's case.
     
     Tony Brueski and John Delatorre both expressed concerns about Van Der Sloot's potential for reoffending. Delatorre stated, "I'm not going to let you get out, and we're going to take care of you right back here." This sentiment underscores the fear that, once released, Van Der Sloot may pose a threat to others.
     
     The legal complexities arising from the case's location in Aruba also cast doubt on the possibility of obtaining justice as it might be defined in the United States. The differences in legal systems and procedures between countries add another layer of complexity to this already convoluted case.
     
     In the end, the question remains: Can the Holloway family truly find justice when the truth about Natalee's fate remains elusive? While Beth Holloway may have found some solace in what she perceives as closure, the concept of justice for Natalee Holloway continues to be shrouded in uncertainty.
     
     As Tony Brueski and John Delatorre's conversation reveals, the Natalee Holloway case is a poignant reminder of the complexities of justice, especially in the context of a foreign legal system. While society may not be able to bring Natalee back, the pursuit of truth and justice remains an enduring quest, leaving us pondering whether we can ever truly achieve both in cases as complex and haunting as this one.
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  • Why We Need to Bring Back Compassionate State Hospitals For The Mentally Ill
    In the wake of another tragic mass shooting in the United States, an important question emerges: Are we truly equipped to keep individuals struggling with severe mental illness safe, both from themselves and society? This pressing query was the focal point of a thought-provoking discussion on the "Hidden Killers" podcast, featuring host Tony Brueski and psychotherapist and author Shavaun Scott. Their conversation delved into the complexities surrounding the treatment of the mentally ill, the closure of state hospitals, and the need for comprehensive reform in mental health care.
     
     The dialogue commenced with Tony Brueski pondering the historical context of mental health care in the United States. He questioned whether we might be better off if we revisited the concept of state hospitals in a modern, humane way. These facilities, once both notorious for inhumane treatment and celebrated for their effective care, have largely disappeared from the American landscape.
     
     While acknowledging that some state hospitals were indeed horrifically inhumane, the discussion centered on whether a well-regulated, compassionate, and modernized system could replace them. Brueski argued that these institutions, when well-maintained, could serve as a means to ensure the safety and well-being of individuals grappling with severe mental illness.
     
     Shavaun Scott, a psychotherapist and author with extensive experience in working with mentally ill individuals, echoed the sentiment that compassionate care for those with severe mental illness is essential. Drawing from her personal experiences, Scott emphasized that mental illness, particularly psychosis, should be recognized as a biological brain disease rather than a personal failing. She advocated for comprehensive understanding and treatment of these conditions, challenging the stigmatization and misinformation that often prevail.
     
     The conversation turned to the closure of state hospitals in the past, attributing it to both instances of abuse within the system and a lack of funding for the envisioned community-based mental health programs. While the original plan aimed to channel individuals into smaller, well-supported community programs, the lack of funding left these initiatives unfulfilled. The result was a gap in mental health care that endures to this day.
     
     Scott pointed out that despite the existence of county mental health departments, they are often understaffed and overwhelmed, lacking the resources needed to meet the demands of millions of individuals in need. The podcast underlined that government mandates for mental health care often lack the necessary funding and infrastructure to implement effectively.
     
     In response to Tony Brueski's inquiry regarding potential solutions, Shavaun Scott suggested that strengthening county services for individuals who can be supervised in the community is a viable approach. This could involve creating more group homes and residential treatment community homes, all of which require the oversight of dedicated case managers and access to appropriate medications to alleviate symptoms and prevent dangerous outcomes.
     
     However, Scott acknowledged that some individuals with severe mental illness may not be manageable in these settings and may require more intensive care. She argued that there is no reason not to establish compassionate state hospitals that provide the necessary care and support for such individuals, emphasizing that the knowledge and expertise exist to create these institutions successfully.
     
     In conclusion, the "Hidden Killers" podcast episode invites a critical examination of the state of mental health care in the United States. The conversation underscores the urgent need for comprehensive reform and investment in the treatment of individuals with severe mental illness. While the closure of state hospitals in the past may have been prompted by valid concerns, it has left a void in mental health care that requires immediate attention. The challenge lies in finding a balanced approach that combines community-based care with the revival of well-regulated, compassionate state hospitals, ensuring that no one is left to fend for themselves in the shadows of society.
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