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  • Leadership Action: How to Turn Your Ship Around and Achieve Oscar-Level Success with CAPT J. J. “Yank” Cummings, USN, Retired | Ep 11

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    Retired U.S. Navy Captain  J.J. "Yank" Cummings is a decorated naval aviator, fighter pilot and former captain of the USS Gerald R. Ford, the U.S. Navy’s largest and most advanced aircraft carrier. With a M.S. in Education from Old Dominion University, a M.A. in National Security and Strategic Studies from the Naval War College and a Navy Nuclear Propulsion Program and TOPGUN graduate, J.J. has extensive experience in leading and managing thousands of men and women. He was a key influencer on Paramount Pictures' recent blockbuster and six-time Oscar-nominated movie, Top Gun: Maverick.

    Selected chapters found in this episode:

    • Leading in Conditions of Uncertainty
    • Principles: Setting the Tone
    • Building Exceptional Teams
    • Actions, Not Words: Show Them You Care
    • Nuclear Navy. Regular Navy. Fighter Aviation.
    • Value (Kill) Chain Thinking: The Why Behind the What
    • 1MC Thinking: Communicating the Mission, Reducing Uncertainty
    • You Are Never Mission-less
    • Go to the Gemba…Unannounced
    • Building Credibility is Hard
    • LBWA Over LBBOO
    • Plan-Brief-Execute-Debrief (PBED): Focus on the “D”
    • The Recall Matters (What Happened)
    • At a Profit, If We Can; At a Loss, If We Must…
    • Systems Drive Behaviors
    • Top Gun: Maverick Started on “Yank’s” Couch
    • Leadership Lessons from the Making of Top Gun: Maverick
    • Team Building Outside of Work
    • Blue Water Advisors
    • How to Connect with “Yank”   

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    J.J. "Yank" Cummings on LinkedIn
    "Navy pilot and Bates graduate helps take film franchise to new heights"
    Bob Hoover: An Aviation Legend

    John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: 

    “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”

    A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD

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    1 hr 19 min
  • Agile & OODA: Agility as an Outcome with Agile Manifesto Co-Author, Alistair Cockburn, PhD | Ep 10

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    Alistair Cockburn, PhD organized the historic meeting in Snowbird, Utah, in which he and 16 other people from around the world wrote the Agile Manifesto. His two industry-changing books, Writing Effective Use Cases and Agile Software Development: The Cooperative Game, have sold hundreds of thousands of copies. In addition to being a world-renowned expert on Agile, he is an authority in the field of software development, product management, project management and organizational development, and has authored four words of wisdom to help “rewild” Agile: Collaborate, Deliver, Reflect, Improve - known as the Heart of Agile.

    Chapters found in this episode:

    • What’s Behind Alistair’s Agile Orientation
    • Consulting as Micro-Touch Therapy
    • Agile 2003: What Should Have Been
    • Agile and OODA Intent
    • Keep It Simple
    • Shu Ha Ri
    • Demo-Do-Teach: A Western Version of Shu Ha Ri
    • Mann Gulch: Implicit Guidance and Control
    • Coaching Agile 
    • Mr. Miyagi: The Ultimate Kokoro Teacher 
    • The Importance of Play and Experiential Leaning 
    • Reward Systems Drive Behaviors
    • Collaboration
    • Thoughts on the OODA loop

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    Alistair Cockburn, PhD Bio
    Alistair Cockburn, PhD Linkedin
    Heart of Agile
    Manifesto for Agile Software Development

    John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: 

    “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”

    A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD

    Stay connected
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    Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoWayOutPodcast
    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-way-out/id1663685759
    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5fzIKBmVR7ARosQ3I52uNC
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    46 min
  • A New Science of Orientation with Inês Hipólito, PhD | Ep 9

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    Inês Hipólito, PhD is a researcher in the interdisciplinary fields of philosophy of mind and complexity. Her research focuses on exploring the complex and reciprocal interactions between psychological behavior and the nervous system, body, and environment. She is a lecturer at the Berlin School of Mind and Brain at Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin. Inês is an Amsterdam Brain and Cognition Talent Grant Fellow at the University of Amsterdam, where she is studying the emergence of artificial intelligence as Augmented Cognition.

    Selected chapters found in this episode:

    • From Turing Machines to Active Inference
    • Boundaries are set by the Observer
    • Perception: How We Sense the World
    • Predictive Coding - Brains are Not Passive Processors
    • Why Orientation is the Schwerpunkt According to Neuroscience
    • Cristiano Ronaldo and Skillful Performance
    • Flow: Emptiness of the Mind or Mushin is Key
    • Flow: Being Attuned with the External Environment
    • Adaptation: Niche Construction and The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics
    • Minimize Surprise: The Ultimate Goal 
    • Counterfactuals, COAs, and The Free Energy Principle
    • Stuck State: Unhealthy Patterns of Thinking
    • Psychedelics, Destruction and Creation, Ego
    • Organizational Change, Destruction and Creation, Ego
    • The Problem with Closed Systems

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    Inês Hipólito, PhD
    Twitter: @ineshipolito
    REBUS
    Entropic Brain Hypothesis
    The Free Energy Principle
    Active Inference: The Free Energy Principle in Mind, Brain, and Behavior 

    John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: 

    “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”

    A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD

    Stay connected
    Read the full posts: https://www.conceptualspiral.com

    Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoWayOutPodcast
    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-way-out/id1663685759
    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5fzIKBmVR7ARosQ3I52uNC
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    1 hr 25 min
  • A General’s View on Boyd, Leadership and Agility with Maj Gen Brook J. Leonard, USAF | Ep 8

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    Maj Gen Brook J. “Tank” Leonard, USAF is an experienced leader in the U.S. Air Force. He has extensive leadership experience with a wide range of organizations of various scales; in several complex and uncertain environments, including combat. He is currently the Deputy Commander and Director of Operations at Combined Joint Task Force - Space Operations, leading planning and operations for United States Space Command. He has flown numerous aircraft, including the F-16 and F-35, with over 3,000 flight hours, including 576 combat hours. Maj Gen Leonard is a graduate of the U.S. Air Force Academy, USAF Weapons School and has attained multiple masters degrees throughout his career.

    Chapters in this episode include:

    • Iron Eagle vs. Top Gun
    • Why Fighter Aviation
    • Energy-Maneuverability (Agility) Theory
    • Navy TOPGUNs Take Boyd to School
    • Distributed Leadership, Weapons School (Top Gun)  Style
    • The Art and Science of the Debrief (Feedback Loop)
    • Leadership Lessons from Secretary Mattis 
    • Bounded Applicability: Effects-Based Operations (Value-Focused Thinking)
    • New Domain, New Culture and the Power of Cognitive Diversity
    • IOHAI: The Secret Behind Team Orientation
    • Red Teaming: Challenging Assumptions and Improving Decision Facilitation 
    • Leading a Fearless Organization (Psychological Safety) 
    • F-16 vs. F-35? 
    • Merging Cultures
    • The Space Imperative 

    Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.

    Maj Gen Brook J. Leonard Bio
    Maj Gen Brook J. Leonard LinkedIn
    U.S. Space Command
    Debrief To Win
    TOPGUN: An American Story

    John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: 

    “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”

    A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD

    Stay connected
    Read the full posts: https://www.conceptualspiral.com

    Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoWayOutPodcast
    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-way-out/id1663685759
    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5fzIKBmVR7ARosQ3I52uNC
    Follow the show on X: https://x.com/NoWayOutcast

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    1 hr 27 min
  • The Socratic Experience and Conscious Capitalism with Michael Strong | Ep 7

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    Michael Strong is one of the most experienced designers of innovative school programs in the United States: He has more than twenty-eight years creating innovative K-12 programs and schools based on Montessori, Socratic, and entrepreneurial principles.   

    He is the author of The Habit of Thought: From Socratic Seminars to Socratic Practice and lead author of Be the Solution: How Entrepreneurs and Conscious Capitalists Can Solve All the World’s Problems.

    Chapters in this episode include:

    • John Boyd and the Nature of Learning and Creativity 
    • Entrepreneurs Create Value 
    • Experiential Education and Adult Learning
    • Education as Scaling a Culture
    • Social Physics: Measuring Psychological Safety and Engagement 
    • Soft Skills: The Hard Skills
    • Observable Entrepreneurial Behaviors
    • Exaptive Teaming Skills from High Risk Environments
    • The Most Boring and Cruel Years: Secondary School
    • Thoughts on Improving the Education System 
    • Freedom of Speech: The Dangers of Shutting Down the Views of Others 
    • The Tarantino Rule for Shaping Orientation 
    • To Be or To Do: Mentorship and Coaching
    • Entrepreneurial Solutions over Political Polarization 
    • Whole Foods and the Experience Economy
    • Conscious Capitalism  
    • Decentralize Decision-Making  

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    The Socratic Experience
    Conscious Capitalism
    Michael Strong on LinkedIn

    John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: 

    “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”

    A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD

    Stay connected
    Read the full posts: https://www.conceptualspiral.com

    Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoWayOutPodcast
    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-way-out/id1663685759
    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5fzIKBmVR7ARosQ3I52uNC
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    1 hr 54 min
  • Decision-Making Under Conditions of Chronic Stress with Delia McCabe, PhD | Ep 6

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    Delia received her PhD from Adelaide Medical School and her present research focus is on the neurobiology of stress and lifestyle choices. Delia’s knowledge about the brain’s requirements for optimal well-being, her enthusiasm for sharing complex science in an easy-to-understand format, and her ability to share practical and actionable steps with her audience, make her a speaker that keeps her audience engaged and enthralled from start to finish.

    Chapters in this episode include:

    • A Neuroscientist’s View of the OODA Loop and John Boyd
    • Our Environment Shapes the Brain and Our OODA Loop
    • This is Your Brain. This is Your Child’s Brain on Technology. Any Questions? 
    • False Perception of the Environment 
    • The Dangers of a  Synthetically Engineered Orientation 
    • Dopamine 
    • Our Brains & the Strategic Game of Interaction and Isolation
    • Making Sense of Stress and its Impact on Orientation 
    • The Mind-Body Stress OODA Loop 
    • The Impact of Stress on the Workplace 
    • Neurons That Fire Together, Wire Together 
    • Alcohol-Caffeine Cycle 
    • Some Context on Context Switching 
    • How to Change Your Organization's Default Mode of Operation
    • Decision Fatigue
    • What Can Leaders Do?
    • Making Work Visible 
    • Ego, Default Mode Network, Our Brain 
    • PTSD, Ego Suppression,  Psychedelic-Assisted Therapies.
    • Why Do I Remember My First Girlfriend When I Smell Bubblegum? 
    • The Interplay of Genes, Culture, Environment and Previous Experience
    • Flow
    • How to Connect with Delia McCabe, PhD   

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    John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: 

    “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”

    A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD

    Stay connected
    Read the full posts: https://www.conceptualspiral.com

    Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoWayOutPodcast
    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-way-out/id1663685759
    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5fzIKBmVR7ARosQ3I52uNC
    Follow the show on X: https://x.com/NoWayOutcast

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    1 hr 28 min
  • A Networked-Run World: A Brave New Conversation with John Robb | Ep 5

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    John Robb is a veteran of the U.S. Air Force, where he was a pilot serving in Tier 1 Special Operations, working with Delta and Seal Team 6. In the private sector, John was a pioneer in the field of technology and business, being the world's first professional internet analyst at Forrester Research. He also served as co-founder and president of Gomez Advisors, a financial industry performance testing company, and as CEO of UserLand Software, where he developed the foundational technologies and user interface for social networking in 2001. He is the author of the book Brave New War, which was a prescient look at the future of warfare. His unique background and insights makes him an invaluable resource for business leaders and teams.

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    //John Robb and links to his work//
    John's Global Guerrillas Report
    John's Twitter
    John's Substack
    Brave New War

    //People, ideas, and things mentioned in this episode//
    Books by Tucker Max
    Books by Daniel Suarez
    The Edelman Trust Barometer
    Understanding Media  –  by Marshall McLuhan

    //The Papers of John R. Boyd//
    John R. Boyd Collection, COLL/2949, Archives Branch, Marine Corps History Division, Quantico, VA.

    John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: 

    “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”

    A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD

    Stay connected
    Read the full posts: https://www.conceptualspiral.com

    Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoWayOutPodcast
    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-way-out/id1663685759
    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5fzIKBmVR7ARosQ3I52uNC
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    1 hr 30 min
  • Distributed Leadership: The Teaming Secret Behind Mission Command with Don Vandergriff | Ep 4

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    Donald Vandergriff (U.S. Army retired) is an award-winning teacher, writer, and lecturer who specializes in leadership education and training. He served 24 years as a Marine, Tennessee Army National Guard enlisted, and U.S. Army Armor officer. After retiring from the U.S. Army, he worked for their Army Capabilities Integration Center (ARCIC) Forward with a focus on leader and soldier development. He has also been a consultant and guest speaker at NATO, the U.S. Military Academy, and several law enforcement agencies.

    -On Objectives and Key Results (OKRs)
    -Mission Command Origins, and Outcome as Intent (That’s Your OKR!)
    -Mission Command and Leaders Intent
    -Experiential Learning and Debriefing
    -Product Owner Role (Scrum and Agile) is from Mission Command
    -Demo, Do, Teach: An Apprenticeship Model for Leadership Development
    -Put Simply: “Intent, Task, Vision of Success, Here are Your Limitations”
    -Command is About Leadership and Appreciation 
    -WHY, Without Telling Me HOW
    -Experiential Learning is the Best Method to Teach and Learn Mission Command

    //Don Vandergriff and links to his work//
    Donald Vandergriff: Protector, Educator, Strategist, Reformer
    Nemertes
    Adopting Mission Command
    Raising The Bar
    Mission Command: The Who, What, Where, When and Why
    Mission Command II: The Who, What, Where, When and Why

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    Read the full posts: https://www.conceptualspiral.com

    Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoWayOutPodcast
    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-way-out/id1663685759
    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5fzIKBmVR7ARosQ3I52uNC
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    1 hr 6 min
  • Creating Economic and Entrepreneurial Advantage: The Value of the OODA Loop with Hunter Hastings | Ep 3

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    Hunter Hastings is an economist, entrepreneur, professional marketer, a venture capitalist, and the host of the Economics for Business podcast. Enjoy this wide ranging talk about Hunter’s work, economics, complexity science, and entrepreneurship – and their respective connections to the work and theories of John Boyd.

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    //People, ideas, and things mentioned in this episode//
    "Business as a Flow Requires New Management Techniques"
    Entrepreneurial Self Assessment
    The Adaptive Entrepreneurial Method
    The Theory of Dynamic Efficiency
    Wardley Mapping

    //Books//
    The Nature of Technology and How It Evolves  –  by W. Brian Arthur
    “Fear the Boom and Bust: Keynes vs. Hayek" Rap  –  by Emergent Order
    Human Action  –  by Ludwig von Mises
    The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science  –  by Ludwig von Mises
    Individualism and Economic Order  –  by FA Hayek
    Organizing Entrepreneurial Judgement  –  by Nicolai Foss and Peter Klein

    Stay connected
    Read the full posts: https://www.conceptualspiral.com

    Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoWayOutPodcast
    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-way-out/id1663685759
    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5fzIKBmVR7ARosQ3I52uNC
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    1 hr 9 min
  • Complexity, Cynefin and the Evolution of the OODA Loop with Dave Snowden | Ep 2

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    Dave Snowden is the creator of the Cynefin Framework and originated the design of SenseMaker®, the world’s first distributed ethnography tool. He is the lead author of Managing Complexity (and Chaos) in Times of Crisis: A Field Guide for Decision-makers, a shared effort between the Joint Research Centre (JRC), the European Commission’s science and knowledge service, and the Cynefin Centre.

    Mark, Ponch, and Dave have a wide ranging talk about Dave’s work and its connection to the work and theories of John Boyd.

    Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.

    //Dave Snowden and links to his work//
    Dave Snowden Biography
    Dave Snowden Sensemaker
    Cynefin Workshops

    //Books and briefs mentioned in this episode//
    "The New Killer App: The OODA Loop and Cynefin Framework"  –  by Brian Rivera
    How the Leopard Changed Its Spots  –  by Brian Goodwin
    Cynefin: Weaving Sense-Making into the Fabric of Our World  –  by Dave Snowden
    Grammatical Man, Information, Entropy, Language, and Life  –  by Jeremy Campbell
    Cybernetics  –  by F. H. George

    //Theories mentioned in this episode//
    The Cynefin Framework

    //The Papers of John R. Boyd//
    John R. Boyd Collection, COLL/2949, Archives Branch, Marine Corps History Division, Quantico, VA.

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    Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoWayOutPodcast
    Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-way-out/id1663685759
    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5fzIKBmVR7ARosQ3I52uNC
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    1 hr 2 min

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No Way Out is the podcast on John Boyd's OODA loop, The Flow System and how people and teams navigate uncertainty.

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