The Mark Divine Show

Noise Is Not Your Friend (with Justin Zorn and Leigh Marz)


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Mark speaks with Justin Zorn and Leigh Marz, authors of Golden and partners in Astraea Strategies. Together we explore finding silence and stillness in a world that's getting noisier and busier by the minute, as well as the economic, social, and health consequences of that noise, externally and internally.

Today, Commander Divine speaks with Justin Zorn and Leigh Marz, authors of Golden and partners in Astraea Strategies. In the episode, Justin and Leigh share their compelling findings on stillness, silence, and the impact that noise is having on our bodies, our health, and social & economic lives.

Key Takeaways:

Silence isn’t just the lack of noise. It’s something different, a different quality altogether. Silence is a place for connection to your authenticity, and you can feel when people’s minds are quiet or they’re loud inside.

Our world is noisey, in many ways. Justin and Leigh share the Three Levels of Noise: auditory, informational, and internal. Auditory noise today is empirically louder than it’s ever been, but pales in comparison to the informational noise boost we’ve seen in recent decades, which stifles our abilities to perceive & think creatively.

Noise is not our friend. Together we discuss the impact noise can have on our thoughts, our actions, our bodies, and our economy. And it impacts the whole globe, even some of the more remote tribes in the Amazon.

The key is to focus on “ma.” The Japanese aesthetic principle called ma represents negative space and pure potentiality. When we can cultivate appreciation for the stillness, silence, and pure potentiality of the lack of noise… we find peace in a busy world.

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