In this episode, Joe de Sena is having a powerful conversation with fitness icon Clark Bartram, who is on a mission to inspire men to embrace a life of resilience, purpose, and health. This 60-year-old "fitness anomaly" shares his philosophy on making small, daily choices that can have a profound impact on your well-being. His message is both thought-provoking and actionable, as he challenges listeners to choose the stairs over the escalator, to walk instead of calling an Uber, and to prioritize physical activity in a world that often promotes convenience over health. Since his recent prostate cancer diagnosis, Bartram is using his platform to empower men to take control of their health and live life to the fullest. This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking to break free from the "busy dying" mentality and embrace a mindset of living with energy, purpose, and resilience. Highlights: 00:00 Intro 01:22 Being anomaly on life is the goal 03:10 Get busy living or get busy dying 04:22 Living with energy and purpose 07:32 Laziness and 10,000 steps a day as a goal 10:38 Clark's motivation for his fitness journey 14:53 Why are we the way we are 17:10 The absurdity of celebrating obesity 19:45 Clark's personal challenge with prostate cancer 25:26 How can people find Clark?