July 22, 2025

Our Most Honest Conversation About ‘Big Wellness,’ Pharma & Food Lies with Illie Pt. 1

1 hour 5 minutes

260: My wellness bestie Illie is here and we are not holding back. Her brand, Live Healthillie, promotes clean living through everything from food, to skincare to supplements. Like me, she’s been super vocal about exposing the toxins that lurk in our food supply and pushing for change on a national scale. We yapped so hard that we needed to make the conversation into two parts. This was like therapy for me, and probably will be for you too.

Topics Discussed:

→ “Big Wellness” compared to “Big Pharma”

→ Misconceptions about the MAHA movement

→ Beef tallow at Steak 'n Shake

→ Why eating clean is actually cheaper than people think

→ Toxic additives in baby formula

→ Why current food guidelines are so backwards

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Timestamps:

→ 00:00:00 - Introduction

→ 00:01:37 - MAHA Misconceptions

→ 00:08:45 - Healthier Eating Habits for Kids + Adults

→ 00:15:35 - “Wellness Influencers”

→ 00:17:44 - Baby Formula

→ 00:20:12 - Why We Can’t Trust Our Medical Systems

→ 00:26:32 - Science Needs to Keep Up

→ 00:30:45 - Prioritizing Whole Ingredients

→ 00:33:00 - The Math of Clean Eating

→ 00:40:46 - Link Between Diet and Health

→ 00:43:52 - What is “Big Wellness”?