From a high-flying career in PR, to first lady of Downing Street and now a leading campaigner for the education, health and rights of girls and women around the world, Sarah Brown is a woman on a mission. She talks to Lorraine and Trish about life behind the scenes with husband Gordon, bringing up teenage sons, her midlife journey and her feelings as the couple approach the 20th anniversary of the death of their baby daughter Jennifer.

Plus: At last! Some positive representations of midlife women on TV; getting a good night’s sleep; and its dogs vs cats in Nostalgia Noodle

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