<a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/792347/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a>The fourth and fifth steps can cause a lot of fear when we first come into a twelve step group.  For me, they were liberating.  We discuss why the fourth and fifth steps are so important.  This is not a how to, this is why they are great steps, how they help you learn more about yourself and why you drink and help you understand how to stay away from the bottle.  The fifth step helps you build trust and to have a deep conversation with an another alcoholic about your defects and how you have similarities. What was your experience with the fourth and fifth steps?  Let us know at matt@soberfriendspod.com and on instagram @soberfriendspod.<a rel="payment" href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/soberfriendspod">Support the show</a>📫 Get more honest conversations about sobriety delivered to your inbox! Subscribe to <a href='https://soberfriendspod.substack.com/'>The Sober Friends Dispatch</a>, our weekly newsletter where we go beyond the podcast to share real strategies for alcohol-free living. Join our community by clicking <a href='https://soberfriendspod.substack.com/'>here.</a>

Send us Fan Mail The fourth and fifth steps can cause a lot of fear when we first come into a twelve step group. For me, they were liberating. We discuss why the fourth and fifth steps are so important. This is not a how to, this is why they are great steps, how they help you learn more about yourself and why you drink and help you understand how to stay away from the bottle. The fifth step helps you build trust and to have a deep conversation with an another alcoholic about your defects and how you have similarities. What was your experience with the fourth and fifth steps? Let us know at matt@soberfriendspod.com and on instagram @soberfriendspod. Support the show 📫 Get more honest conversations about sobriety delivered to your inbox! Subscribe to The Sober Friends Dispatch, our weekly newsletter where we go beyond the podcast to share real strategies for alcohol-free living. Join our community by clicking here.

<a href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/792347/fan_mail/new" rel="noopener noreferrer">Send us Fan Mail</a>The fourth and fifth steps can cause a lot of fear when we first come into a twelve step group.&nbsp; For me, they were liberating.&nbsp; We discuss why the fourth and fifth steps are so important.&nbsp; This is not a how to, this is why they are great steps, how they help you learn more about yourself and why you drink and help you understand how to stay away from the bottle.&nbsp; The fifth step helps you build trust and to have a deep conversation with an another alcoholic about your defects and how you have similarities. What was your experience with the fourth and fifth steps?&nbsp; Let us know at matt@soberfriendspod.com and on instagram @soberfriendspod.<a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/soberfriendspod" rel="noopener noreferrer">Support the show</a>📫 Get more honest conversations about sobriety delivered to your inbox! Subscribe to <a href="https://soberfriendspod.substack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Sober Friends Dispatch</a>, our weekly newsletter where we go beyond the podcast to share real strategies for alcohol-free living. Join our community by clicking <a href="https://soberfriendspod.substack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">here.</a>

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Ever feel like you’re the only one who thinks this way? The Sober Friends Podcast is for people who are learning that recovery is about more than quitting drinking—it’s about learning how to live. Every week, Matt and Steve have honest conversations about the challenges that don’t disappear when alcohol does: anxiety, control, relationships, fear, loneliness, resentment, people-pleasing, and the ongoing work of emotional sobriety.Because getting sober doesn’t automatically make life easier. It just gives you the opportunity to face life differently. No gurus. No perfection. No pretending to have it all figured out. Just two friends with long-term sobriety sharing what they’ve learned, what they’re still learning, and how recovery continues to shape their lives years after their last drink. Whether you’re questioning your drinking, newly sober, or years into recovery, you’ll find practical insights, honest conversations, and reminders that growth doesn’t end when the alcohol is gone. New episodes every week. Matt and Steve are members of Alcoholics Anonymous but speak only from their own experience. This podcast is not affiliated with Alcoholics Anonymous.

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Ever feel like you’re the only one who thinks this way? The Sober Friends Podcast is for people who are learning that recovery is about more than quitting drinking—it’s about learning how to live. Every week, Matt and Steve have honest conversations about the challenges that don’t disappear when alcohol does: anxiety, control, relationships, fear, loneliness, resentment, people-pleasing, and the ongoing work of emotional sobriety. Because getting sober doesn’t automatically make life easier. It just gives you the opportunity to face life differently. No gurus. No perfection. No pretending to have it all figured out. Just two friends with long-term sobriety sharing what they’ve learned, what they’re still learning, and how recovery continues to shape their lives years after their last drink. Whether you’re questioning your drinking, newly sober, or years into recovery, you’ll find practical insights, honest conversations, and reminders that growth doesn’t end when the alcohol is gone. New episodes every week. Matt and Steve are members of Alcoholics Anonymous but speak only from their own experience. This podcast is not affiliated with Alcoholics Anonymous.

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