In this episode Gordon talks with Rachael Norman about helping self-paying clients who want to use their health insurance to pay for your services. The easiest way for practitioners to help people collect out-of-network insurance benefits is to offer a "superbill". Rachael talks about how and why her company developed an app called "Better" that helps clients easily get paid back for their out-of-pocket expenses, using a superbill, from their health insurance.