This podcast episode features Victoria interviewing her husband Wouter. They discuss their relationship journey, how they've grown together, Victoria's eating disorder recovery, and Wouter's coaching approach. Listeners can expect vulnerably authentic conversations around personal development, spirituality, relationships, body image, and self-love.

Key Discussion Points:

- How Victoria and Wouter met in Egypt while Victoria was struggling with an eating disorder, but Wouter could see her true essence beyond that

- Wouter shares about his personal growth journey and transition from being a "nice guy" people pleaser to embodying more self-love and integrity

- How Victoria used Wouter as a model for what healthy self-care looks like while she was in eating disorder recovery

- Their perspectives on what makes their relationship so strong - unconditional love, open communication, intimacy on a soul level, not needing each other but choosing each other

- Wouter explains his direct, no-nonsense, spiritual-but-not-airy-fairy coaching approach and why most traditional methods don't create lasting change

- Insights on dropping limiting stories, choosing who you want to be in each moment, fear as an illusion, and taking responsibility for your own life and happiness

Wouter (https://www.wouterkleinsman.nl/) is an author and no-nonsense coach from the Netherlands focused on personal development for high performers. He takes an intensely direct yet compassionate approach to helping clients "get over their bullshit stories" in order to live more powerfully aligned lives. His bestselling books explain his methodology further.

Key Quotes:

"Attractiveness goes beyond the physical body. Attractiveness is the energy source she's portraying." [00:21:08]

"Our relationship works because it's based on 1+1=3, not me giving you something and expecting the exact same level back." [00:10:59]

"I'm the coach, but I'm also not the coach...when we just live life, we just live life." [01:21:37]

"Everything in life is bullshit. So why would we be living in the story which is hurting us, disempowering us, making us weak?" [01:34:39]

"Happiness and being who you want to be is a choice you can make right now." [01:37:16]

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