In today's episode of Grow, Scale, Master, Kon Stathopoulos and Josh Phegan discuss the realities of big tech and embracing a radically traditional approach. They examine where big tech falls short, where relationships excel, and develop the skill to leverage both successfully. They advise putting your top 100 customers in your phone and using client events to get face-to-face to build influence.

They continue with why the best agents use layers for growth i.e. relationship layer, social layer, tech layer and transactional layer. Josh examines ways to leverage everything you've learned for a bigger and brighter future, Kon illustrates how simple it is to create a Wow moment, and they share their views on knowing what makes you great and going all in on that.