Real Producers

Imagine going from earning $700k, getting all the accolades and being able to afford whatever you want to the brink of bankruptcy. Hiding your Range Rover from the repo man, your own home going into foreclosure and counting every penny. Back in 2008, that was enough for many real estate agents to throw in the towel and leave the industry. 

For Michelle Fermin failure wasn’t an option. It’s easy to feel like giving up is the only option when everything starts to crumble, but here’s the truth: when things get tough, it’s time to pivot. 

It’s time to get creative and adapt. The only way out is through—by doubling down, working harder, and pushing forward with a new strategy. 

When hard times hit, how do you turn it all around? How do you pivot with purpose and execute at a higher level than you ever thought possible?

In this episode, team lead at Century 21 North East - Fermin Group Michelle Fermin joins me to talk about her rise, fall and journey back to top agent. We also talk about the importance of personal touch, going back to basics when needed and why it's more important to collaborate than compete in the world of real estate.

Sometimes when we succeed, we become cocky and lose that personal touch. Get back to the basics -building relationships, asking questions and building systems. -Michelle Fermin

Things You’ll Learn In This Episode 

• Back to basics A strong foundation in real estate is built on solid relationships and asking the right questions. Why is it so important to always go back to the basics that build a foundation?
• Asking the difficult questions Facing fears and asking tough questions is essential in real estate, especially during challenging times like bankruptcy. How can confronting your biggest fears help you make smarter decisions in tough situations?
• Top 10 vs number 1 The difference between the top 10 and number 1 in real estate often lies in consistency, innovation, and exceptional client service. What does it take to gain that number 1 spot?

Guest Bio

Michelle Fermin is a growth and accountability driven leader to a top producing team in the country. The Fermin Group, is currently composed of 37 senior agents and 7 junior agents. They have sold over 5000 homes, over $1.5 B in sales.

For their stellar service, the team was voted Best Team in the Boston Agents' Choice Awards twice in the last 3 years. They were also the #1 Century 21 Small Team in the World in 2020, and a Top 5 Global Century 21 Team since 2018. The group is also a 4-time NAHREP Top 10 team.

Also a national speaker, Michelle is dedicated to educating while helping her team members grow as entrepreneurs and as members of their community. 

With 26 years in the business and membership in elite organizations like NRBA & NAHREP, Michelle knows the in’s and out’s of real estate and how to navigate a challenging market. 

Michelle lived between Lawrence, MA and Dominican Republic as a child, so her connection to the hispanic community in the area is strong. 

She has 3 children and 2 dogs, and currently resides in the Merrimack Valley. A world traveler, she has visited 60 countries to date.

Follow Michelle on Instagram @michellefermin

Find Michelle on LinkedIn @Michelle Fermin

About Your Host

Real Producers Podcast is hosted by Remington Ramsey, creator of the Real Producers brand that reaches more than 120 markets nationwide. He is a real estate investor as well as an avid reader and writer. Remington calls Indianapolis home and enjoys life on the lake surrounded by his wife and their three girls.

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Real estate has always been a human-first business but that might be changing soon. 

As AI becomes more deeply ingrained in our daily lives, everyone wants to know one thing: can AI mimic the very qualities that define us and make us great at our jobs? 

Can it simulate the self-awareness, empathy, adaptability, and genuine connection of human beings? 

Not yet.

While AI can certainly support real estate professionals, there are human qualities it can never replicate. The challenge for agents and leaders is mastering those human skills while leveraging AI to do everything else more efficiently. 

How can we use our human qualities to build stronger connections with clients? What steps can we take to develop the skills that AI can’t mimic?

In this clip, I’m joined by the founder of MindShift Labs, Mike Lee. We talk about why the future of real estate is still human and how to use our humanity as an advantage in the real estate industry.

The advantage that we have over AI is our humanity. -Mike Lee

Things You’ll Learn In This Episode 

• Your story matters As a real estate leader, sharing your personal story can create a space where others feel understood and valued. How can opening up about our own experiences encourage others to share theirs?
• Communication, connection and challenges. A common mistake real estate leaders make is challenging individuals before building a genuine connection. How does this undermine trust and motivation and what can we do instead? 
• Connect with yourself first. Building a strong connection with yourself lays the foundation for meaningful relationships with others. How can deepening self-connection enhance your relationships with those around you?

Guest Bio

Mike Lee is the founder of MindShift Labs, a company dedicated to helping leaders, athletes, and entrepreneurs enhance their performance through mental resilience and emotional intelligence. Drawing from his expertise in high-performance psychology and leadership development, Mike works with individuals and teams to cultivate a "mindshift"—a transformative approach that builds clarity, focus, and adaptability in high-stress environments.

With a background as a top basketball performance coach, Mike has coached elite athletes and Fortune 500 executives, bringing unique insights on grit, focus, and the importance of mindfulness in achieving peak results. Through MindShift Labs, Mike delivers keynote speeches, training programs, and workshops that empower leaders to overcome challenges, unlock their potential, and drive impactful change.

Find Mike on Instagram @whoismikelee 

Find Mike on LinkedIn @Mike Lee

Visit https://mindshiftlabs.com/ 

About Your Host

Real Producers Podcast is hosted by Remington Ramsey, creator of the Real Producers brand that reaches more than 120 markets nationwide. He is a real estate investor as well as an avid reader and writer. Remington calls Indianapolis home and enjoys life on the lake surrounded by his wife and their three girls.

Follow the show on our website, Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don't miss a single inspiring episode!

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To learn more about the podcast or give feedback and suggest a guest, go to https://podcast.realproducersmag.com/. 

There are two ways to maximize your income as a real estate agent. You can stay in production, hold onto the entire transaction and never experience the time freedom this business offers. 

Or you can relinquish the transaction, get your time back and earn money through leverage and expansion. 

For the short-sighted, option 1 works, but that’s how we end up with agents who are stuck selling real estate longer than they need to. The agents who give up money for more time have balance and a sustainable career trajectory in the business. 

Rob Ellerman chose the second option, and grew his income through expansion teams instead of production, and today he’s closing in on $1 billion in volume. What drove him to build his business this way? Why is a slow market such a good time to double down on advertising? 

How can team leaders provide value to their agents? In this episode, I’m joined by entrepreneur, expansion team leader and the first Real Producer cover in Kansas City, Rob Ellerman. He shares why he took a different path to growth, marketing strategies and the biggest mistake agents make. 

The most money you can make on any given transaction is if you do the whole thing yourself. I’m willing to give money up in order to have more time. -Rob Ellerman

Things You’ll Learn In This Episode 

• A Warren Buffett approach to expansion Typically when agents do expansion teams, they expand within the same brokerage brand. Why does Rob expand through different brands in different locations?   
• Time to double down on advertising In a recession, most agents will back out of paying for billboard advertising. Why is this actually the best time to pay for it? 
• The problem with growing through production The majority of real estate agents would pick a higher commission check over time freedom. Does this set them up for a trap later on? 

Guest Bio

Rob Ellerman is a real estate leader, entrepreneur and owner of the Rob Ellerman Team with The ReeceNichols Company. With expansion teams in several cities, Rob’s Team earns over $800 million annually and is one of the fastest growing real estate teams in the country. The Rob Ellerman team is #1 in Kansas City for homes sold and #1 team in Missouri and Kansas. Follow @therobellermanteam on Instagram. 

About Your Host

Real Producers Podcast is hosted by Remington Ramsey, creator of the Real Producers brand that reaches more than 120 markets nationwide. He is a real estate investor as well as an avid reader and writer. Remington calls Indianapolis home and enjoys life on the lake surrounded by his wife and their three girls.

Follow the show on our website, Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don't miss a single inspiring episode!

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Many agents enter the industry thinking it’s all about selling. But, over time, some discover a higher calling—coaching. While selling helps individuals, coaching impacts entire communities, creating bigger opportunities for everyone involved. It’s a shift that takes your real estate career to a new level, allowing you to make a lasting difference in people’s lives.

The pivot from selling to coaching isn’t just about you, it’s about expanding your reach. As a coach, you help others in your world achieve more than they ever thought possible.

The transition from selling to coaching may seem daunting, but it can be the game-changer you need. Coaching allows you to unlock your potential in a way that traditional selling can’t (and unlock potential in others). Imagine the satisfaction of empowering others while creating bigger opportunities for yourself and those in your network.

How could helping others succeed redefine your own success? How do we recognize when it's time to pivot from simply selling to becoming a catalyst for change?

In this episode, Operating Principal at Keller Williams Realty, Inc Tara Smith joins me to talk about coaching as a pathway to greater fulfillment and impact, what the pivot form selling to coaching looks like and her journey to being a 4x franchise owner. We also talk about the importance of mindset when it comes to success and how to get rid of our own limiting beliefs.

90% of success is mindset related. -Tara Smith

Things You’ll Learn In This Episode 

• Why top producers are struggling Top producers are struggling because they're surrounded by people who don't align with their goals or provide the right support. How can you connect with people who enhance your success?

• Make more money, give more money Increasing your income through real estate allows you to give back more generously, creating a positive impact on your community and beyond. How can we make more to give more?

• Impact on a larger scale Effective real estate coaching empowers agents and creates a ripple effect of positive influence within the industry. Why is it so important that we impact people who can make an even bigger impact?

Guest Bio

Tara Smith, from Lexington, Kentucky, started her journey with Keller Williams in 2013 as a Mega Agent and KW Franchise Investor. She quickly became a CEO and launched a Market Center that won Keller Williams Realty's national production award for new Market Centers. Since then, she has partnered with MAPS Coaching, serving as both an Agent Coach and a Leadership Coach for Franchise Owners and CEOs in the U.S. and internationally.

In 2016, Tara helped launch a Market Center in Cincinnati, Ohio, where she currently serves as Team Leader and Operating Principal. She is also the Operating Principal of Keller Williams Commonwealth in Lexington. Her leadership has earned her team "Black Belt" status four times since 2019, including two awards in 2020 for Gross and Net, as well as Gross in 2021 and 2022.

Tara is driven by a commitment to adding value and serving others, with a passion for helping people reach their potential and empowering them to make a difference. She believes failure is a key to success and embraces authenticity in her leadership style.

Specializing in creating high-performing Market Centers and dynamic teams, Tara partners with clients who are determined to excel, aiming to be #1 in their market, state, and country.

Find Tara on LinkedIn @Tara Smith

Follow Tara on Instagram @tarakatiesmith

About Your Host

Real Producers Podcast is hosted by Remington Ramsey, creator of the Real Producers brand that reaches more than 120 markets nationwide. He is a real estate investor as well as an avid reader and writer. Remington calls Indianapolis home and enjoys life on the lake surrounded by his wife and their three girls.

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Building something that stands the test of time takes immense dedication and vision. Think about cathedrals—centuries of labor and craftsmanship have resulted in breathtaking structures that draw people from all corners of the world. Why? Because they're built with purpose, detail, and a legacy in mind.

In the realm of real estate, this principle holds immense power. How can we create something that not only serves a function but also attracts the very clients we want to serve?

So many businesses and real estate companies struggle to attract the right clients or tenants. We pour time and energy into it, but it just doesn't have that pull that makes people come to us effortlessly.

How do we create something that stands the test of time? What if, instead of constantly chasing clients or buyers, we could create a business or product that naturally attracts the people we want to serve, like cathedrals attract visitors?

In this clip, I'm joined by creative executive, founder, and best-selling author Jay Papasan to discuss how to create something that not only attracts the people you want to serve but also resonates deeply with your target audience.

Things You’ll Learn In This Episode 

• Identifying what actually mattersIn life and business alike, we have to be able to identify priorities and give it all our time and resources until it takes off. Why is it so important to give our priorities our all and do what needs to be done.
• Read for what you needFocused reading helps us efficiently gain the knowledge and skills relevant to current goals. How can we tailor our reading habits to better align with personal or professional needs?
• Why we have to give to growGiving and investing in others strengthens connections and cultivates personal fulfillment. How can cultivating a habit of generosity impact our relationships and overall well-being?

Guest Bio

Jay Papasan is a best selling author who serves as the Vice President of Strategic Content for Keller Williams Realty International, the world’s largest real estate company. He also co founded KellerINK and Produktive with Gary Keller. He is also a principal owner, with his wife Wendy, of Papasan Properties Group in Austin, Texas.

His most recent work with Gary Keller on The ONE Thing has sold over 3 million copies and has been translated into 41 different languages worldwide. The ONE Thing garnered more than 500 appearances on national bestseller lists, including #1 on The Wall Street Journal’s hardcover business list.

Follow Jay on Instagram @jaypapasan 

Visit https://www.jaypapasan.com/ 

Visit https://www.thetwentypercenter.com/ 

Find Jay on LinkedIn @Jay Papasan

About Your Host

Real Producers Podcast is hosted by Remington Ramsey, creator of the Real Producers brand that reaches more than 120 markets nationwide. He is a real estate investor as well as an avid reader and writer. Remington calls Indianapolis home and enjoys life on the lake surrounded by his wife and their three girls.

Follow the show on our website, Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don't miss a single inspiring episode!

Start a Real Producers Magazine in YOUR Market! Learn more about franchise opportunities at realproducersmag.com 

To learn more about the podcast or give feedback and suggest a guest, go to https://podcast.realproducersmag.com/. 

The current market is throwing challenge after challenge at real estate professionals - market downturns, inflation, interest rates and commission changes.

It can feel overwhelming to face it all at once. But here’s the truth: top-producing real estate agents have faced similar challenges before and come out victorious.

Those who thrived through the 2008 recession learned to expect the unexpected. They weren’t caught off guard when the market shifted—they anticipated it, prepared for the worst, and stayed ahead. 

How can we prepare for the shift that’s about to hit us? How does anticipation and expectation of the worst take away the shock value? Does this help us gain control of the situation?

In this episode, director of product growth at Real Producers Magazine Bobby Wright joins me to talk about navigating the uncertain real estate market and why the best agents actually wait for a challenging market. We also share our key takeaways for ending on strong note in 2024 and going into 2025 with a solid game plan.

Things You’ll Learn In This Episode 

• Easy come, easy goThe easier it is to attain money in real estate and in life in general, the easier it is to lose it. Why is it that people lose respect for money when it’s easy to get?
• All the right movesIn today's world, we need to be able to make the right moves regardless of how the market is doing. Why is it important to continue to uphold and support those around us even when times are tough?
• The value of networkingEvery top-producing agent knows the value of networking with other agents. How does this help build success?
• The power of storytellingIn order for clients to know, like and trust us, they have to know our story. How is storytelling a powerful tool when it comes to closing deals?

Guest Bio

Bobby Wright is a seasoned professional with a diverse background in leadership and business development across various industries. He currently serves as the Product Growth Director for Real Producers at The N2 Company, a role he has held since 2022. Prior to this, Bobby was the Senior Vice President of Dealer Success at Roof Maxx from 2019 to 2022. His entrepreneurial spirit led him to own REAL Producers of Columbus Magazine from 2015 to 2020 while also working as a Publisher for N2 Publishing from 2014 to 2020.

Bobby’s career also includes significant experience in collegiate athletics, having worked as an Assistant Baseball Coach at Ohio University from 2012 to 2014 and as a Graduate Assistant Baseball Coach at Otterbein University from 2009 to 2012. Earlier in his career, he gained experience as an Account Manager at Dr Pepper Snapple Group from 2007 to 2008.

Bobby earned a Bachelor of Arts in Public Relations and Organizational Communication from Otterbein University, where he later pursued a Post-Baccalaureate degree in Health and Physical Education for Pre-K through 12. His leadership, communication skills, and diverse career experiences make him a well-rounded professional in both business and coaching.

Find Bobby on LinkedIn @Bobby Wright 

About Your Host

Real Producers Podcast is hosted by Remington Ramsey, creator of the Real Producers brand that reaches more than 120 markets nationwide. He is a real estate investor as well as an avid reader and writer. Remington calls Indianapolis home and enjoys life on the lake surrounded by his wife and their three girls.

Follow the show on our website, Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don't miss a single inspiring episode!

To learn more about the podcast or give feedback and suggest a guest, go to https://podcast.realproducersmag.com/. 

Start a Real Producers Magazine in YOUR Market! Learn more about franchise opportunities at realproducersmag.com

The real estate agents who rise to the top quickly know one thing: this job isn’t about the legalese and the things you learn when you get licensed. What actually gets you ahead in the game are our people skills and the ability to cater to the needs of our clients. The problem is, too many agents get into the business focusing on themselves. They end up at a point where they hate real estate and want to find another career path. 

That’s where Parminder Singh found himself until he changed his approach. Today he's a top agent who truly understands what the consumer wants. How did he shift his approach to real estate? 

How do we balance passing down generational wealth with teaching hard work and financial independence? In this episode, the real estate agent at London Properties joins me to talk about what it means to create generations of wealth and how to break through in real estate. 

I hated real estate in the beginning because I made it about me and not the client. -Parminder Singh

Things You’ll Learn In This Episode 

• The art of communication Mastering the art of communication is essential for enhancing the client's real estate experience. How does communication skills help when it comes to closing a deal?
• The pivotal shift When we make the shift from making real estate deals all about ourselves to making it about the client, great things start to happen. Why is it so important to have the client at the forefront when it comes to deals?
• Every man for himself When it comes to being successful in real estate, we need to take action without being pushed and do it for ourselves. Why is it so important to take action for ourselves before other people do?

Guest Bio

Parminder Singh is an experienced real estate agent with a proven track record in the industry. He specializes in new home sales, rental properties, income properties, listings, and working with sellers. With a strong foundation in real estate, Parminder combines his expertise with a Bachelor's degree in Biology/Biological Sciences from California State University, Fresno. His diverse skill set and educational background enable him to provide comprehensive service to his clients, making him a trusted professional in the real estate market.

Find Parminder on LinkedIn @Parminder Singh

Follow Parminder on Instagram @parminder_the_realtor

About Your Host

Real Producers Podcast is hosted by Remington Ramsey, creator of the Real Producers brand that reaches more than 120 markets nationwide. He is a real estate investor as well as an avid reader and writer. Remington calls Indianapolis home and enjoys life on the lake surrounded by his wife and their three girls.

Follow the show on our website, Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don't miss a single inspiring episode!

To learn more about the podcast or give feedback and suggest a guest, go to https://podcast.realproducersmag.com/. 

Start a Real Producers Magazine in YOUR Market! Learn more about franchise opportunities at realproducersmag.com

In real estate, you either have what it takes to make $500k or you don’t. What holds people back from the income level they want is putting their focus on the wrong things.

We think prioritizing everyone else is what will allow us to succeed but we actually have to learn to respect ourselves more. 

We pour everything into our businesses and leave very little for our families instead of giving them our best. We chase small wins instead of making the long-term legacy play. 

What if we could make a leap in our income by making small changes to how we do things? How can we open our own inner dialogue so we can grow? How do we build strong relationships and connections while still respecting ourselves?

In this episode, I’m joined by the co-founder of Lopez & Lopez REALTORS® and author of “The Best Way to Do Everything Wrong”, Tyler Lopez. We talk about the value of respecting ourselves as business owners, and what keeps us from earning what we want. 

Everything in life is basically relationship building. -Tyler Lopez

Things You’ll Learn In This Episode 

• Independence vs teamworkCompeting alone and winning with a team are not mutually exclusive. How can being independent while working with a team help shape a business?
• Doing one thing wellMany people believe reaching their income goals means sacrificing their most important relationships. How do we shift our perspective on this? 
• Bad hiresA bad hire can disrupt team dynamics and hinder long-term growth, as they may lack alignment with the company's values, culture, or long-term vision. How do we deal with them and what steps do we take?

Guest Bio

Tyler Lopez is the Co-founder, Owner, and Chief Sales Executive of Lopez & Lopez, REALTORS®. A dynamic full-time real estate agent, Tyler is deeply invested in long-term cash flow rental properties and specializes as a Fix & Flip analytics coach. As an independent team owner, real estate lending coach, and entrepreneurial consultant, Tyler thrives on creative, outside-the-box thinking.

His passion for personal client relationships and innovative investing is evident in his "second sale" approach and commitment to the "Client for Life" philosophy. Recognized for excellence, Tyler has been named one of the "10 Best Real Estate Agents" in Arizona for five consecutive years and is a member of the prestigious Circle of 1926 Platinum Level at Long Realty Companies. He is also a dedicated member of The CORE Training, Inc., where he continues to hone his leadership and mentoring skills. Tyler is also the author of The Best Way to Do Everything Wrong. 

Visit https://www.mlslisting.net/ 

Find Tyler on LinkedIn @Tyler Lopez

About Your Host

Real Producers Podcast is hosted by Remington Ramsey, creator of the Real Producers brand that reaches more than 120 markets nationwide. He is a real estate investor as well as an avid reader and writer. Remington calls Indianapolis home and enjoys life on the lake surrounded by his wife and their three girls.

Follow the show on our website, Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don't miss a single inspiring episode!

Start a Real Producers Magazine in YOUR Market! Learn more about franchise opportunities at realproducersmag.com

As real estate pros, we can swing from feeling like the greatest salespeople to wanting to quit very quickly. If a consultation goes well, we’re at the top of the world. If we don’t get a sale, we feel rejected, dejected and ready to leave the business entirely. 

The best salespeople aren’t immune to this emotional rollercoaster, but they deal with it differently. Of course, the rejection hurts, but instead of licking their wounds, they bounce back faster so they can win the next deal. 

How do we learn to move through rejection faster? How do we better handle the emotions that come with working in sales? In this episode, I share one lesson I have learned from the great agents we’ve featured in the magazine. 

People think once you reach a certain point in sales, you won’t suffer from the same emotions negative everyone else does. That’s not true. The only difference is the amount of time you let it affect you. -Remington Ramsey

Things You’ll Learn In This Episode 

• The challenge all salespeople faceReal estate sales can be an emotional rollercoaster. How do we create more emotional fortitude to reduce the ups and downs? 
• Don’t lick your wounds for too longTop producers might feel the sting of a rejection, but they don’t dwell on it. How do they use negative emotions to get better? 
• Surround yourself with people who support your dreamsAs people, we’re very easily influenced by the people we’re around the most. How do we make sure these people are helping us move in the right direction?

About Your Host

Real Producers Podcast is hosted by Remington Ramsey, creator of the Real Producers brand that reaches more than 120 markets nationwide. He is a real estate investor as well as an avid reader and writer. Remington calls Indianapolis home and enjoys life on the lake surrounded by his wife and their three girls.

Follow the show on our website, Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don't miss a single inspiring episode!

Start a Real Producers Magazine in YOUR Market! Learn more about franchise opportunities at realproducersmag.com

Do you ever feel like no matter how much wealth you gain, it never feels like enough? You’ve achieved financial success, but deep down, there’s still that sense of dissatisfaction - that lingering feeling that something’s missing. 

Many of us strive for more, thinking that accumulating wealth will fill the void, but we end up realizing that material gain alone isn’t the answer.

The truth is, true wealth isn’t measured in dollars; it’s measured in how we use our gifts to make a difference.

What if the real transformation you seek isn't just about building wealth, but about making an impact greater than yourself?

In this episode, philanthropist, venture capitalist, and entrepreneur, Christopher Harper joins me to discuss his journey of radical transformation, making an impact beyond ourselves, and the challenges he's faced while writing his soon-to-be-published book, Beyond Hell’s Flames.

When you have a second chance at life, you don’t look at things in the same way. -Christopher Harper

Things You’ll Learn In This Episode 

-Getting a second chance at life

A second chance at life often shifts our perspective, making us value things differently than before. What else changes when we’re gifted with a second chance?

-Create an impact that extends beyond ourselves

Making an impact greater than ourselves involves contributing to causes or initiatives that benefit others and create lasting positive change. How can we focus our efforts to ensure that the impact we make extends beyond our personal gains?

-Talents vs. gifts

Talents are skills we develop through practice, while gifts are innate abilities tied to our purpose. How can we identify the difference between a talent we've honed and a gift we were born with?

Guest Bio

Christopher Harper is a philanthropist, venture capitalist, and entrepreneur with a deep passion for helping others and spreading a faith-driven message. As the co-author of Beyond Hell's Flames, Christopher shares his unapologetic belief in Jesus Christ, offering spiritual guidance through his work. His wide range of experience, which includes national awards and certifications across various industries, reflects his dedication to excellence and faith-based living.

Christopher's work is deeply rooted in his strong faith, and his ventures, both philanthropic and entrepreneurial, align with his mission to serve others and expand the Kingdom of God. He is committed to using his resources and influence to make a meaningful impact on the lives of those in need, trusting in the Lord's guidance throughout his journey.

Visit https://beyondhellsflames.com/

About Your Host

Real Producers Podcast is hosted by Remington Ramsey, creator of the Real Producers brand that reaches more than 120 markets nationwide. He is a real estate investor as well as an avid reader and writer. Remington calls Indianapolis home and enjoys life on the lake surrounded by his wife and their three girls.

Follow the show on our website, Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don't miss a single inspiring episode!

To learn more about the podcast or give feedback and suggest a guest, go to https://podcast.realproducersmag.com/. 

Start a Real Producers Magazine in YOUR Market! Learn more about franchise opportunities at realproducersmag.com