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When we lack humility, we usually end up disrespecting and hurting others. We can also end up feeling humiliated ourselves. This is one of the spiritual consequences of defying this spiritual principle.
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Practicing humility in your recovery makes you teachable,
Practicing humility makes you a better listener and it allows you to examine yourself without shame or judgment.
The hardest thing about practicing humility is that most of us want to feel that we have some kind of power or importance in our own lives. Lowering our importance goes against what is natural to us.
Humility is not low self-esteem.
Humility means taking credit for what you are responsible for and giving credit for what you are not responsible for.
Humility means learning from others.
Tonight, we talk about Humility
First to mind?
What comes first to mind?
Where do you want to start?
When you were new, what was your opinion of humility?
What is your understanding now?
What does humility look like for you in a practical way?
Why is humility important to you?
How has your attitude toward humility changed during your time in program?
How did you learn about humility?
What steps helped?
What prayers helped?
How did the fellowship help?
How did your sponsor help?
How does your higher power help?
What is the difference between humility and humiliation?
Why is pride dangerous?
Why is pride bad for your recovery?
When is pride good?
When does pride cross the line from something that is ok to something that threatens sobriety?
How do you know when pride is moving into dangerous territory for you recovery?
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We asked our listeners about this topic.
Now, listeners, If you would like to participate in these weekly surveys, just email me an invite request. Email me at
And I will send you an invite to our Recoveredcast Google group. This group receives the show notes for the upcoming show. You will also receive an invite to participate in the weekly survey. You will also receive a link to call into the show so you can share you experience with the recovery topic. This group helps us prepare for each week’s topic.
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To get involved in each week’s show prep.
We asked our listeners,
"How do you develop humility?”
Did you take the survey?
https://www.surveymonkey.com/analyze/x3C_2BB5TXIfQS_2BipBi1yZOAkcNwc_2Blq2fCO8_2Bubp_2FqEJN6jpHTf0J5frl6xXjMEVt
What would be your answer?
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Humility is not low self esteem.
What does this mean to you?
Why is shame a barrier to humility?
How can you become more humble?
How can gratitude help?
How does being teachable help?
How can service work help?
Talk to the person who is struggling with humility.
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What would you say to the new guy about Eating Disorders and Substance Abuse?
So Remember; abandon yourself to God and admit your faults. Clear away the wreckage of your past and give freely. God bless and see you next time.
Alcoholism and eating disorders frequently co–occur. Up to 50% of individuals with eating disorders abused alcohol or illicit drugs, a rate five times higher than the general population. Up to 35% of individuals who abused or were dependent on alcohol or other drugs have also had eating disorders, a rate 11 times greater than the general population.
https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh26-2/151-160.htm
https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/substance-abuse-and-eating-disorders
https://www.eatingrecoverycenter.com/blog/2016/04/01/eating-disorders-and-alcohol-abuse-linda-lewaniak
That is why we have asked Gretchen Rouster to join us tonight.
Anna, can you introduce Gretchen to our Recovered Podcast listeners?
Gretchen holds a Bachelors in psychology and a Masters in clinical Social Work and has been working as a psychotherapist since 1991. She has a specialty in treating trauma, anxiety, and depression. Gretchen began pursuing specialized training in eating disorders in 2004 and has been training and treating clients with eating disorders for the past fifteen years. Gretchen, you have a private practice in Ypsilanti where you treat adults 18 and over and also provide clinical supervision to social workers seeking full licensure.
Hello Gretchen and welcome to the Recovered Podcast Studio. Have you ever been here before?
Gretchen, the Recovered Podcast is a story of hope. Gretchen, we believe recovery possible for everyone.
Gretchen, what is the first thing you want to say to that person right now who is listening and thinks they may not just have a drinking problem, ut also an eating disorder as well? (just a quick statement that treatment is available and recovery is possible and maybe where to start the search for help 1-800 number or website)
Gretchen, most of our audience are professed alcoholic or drug addicted and are seeking recovery. In the recovering process, other disorders can surface. Gretchen, let’s focus on the sober individual who is concerned with their current eating patterns. Let’s give information, so everyone can be more informed and make recovery possible and reduce the stigma around eating disorders.
How does someone get help? Where should an individual start in getting treatment for an eating disorder?
So Gretchen let’s focus on specifically on Eating Disorders. Alcohol and eating disorder behaviors may help people find a way to numb their problems, pain and anxiety — but it comes at a huge cost. Most of our audience are very familiar with substance abuse and the toll that takes, but let’s take a look at some specific eating disorders and talk about their characteristics and the consequences.
Help us understand these conditions:
anorexia nervosa (AN). What are the symptoms and treatment?
bulimia nervosa (BN), What are the symptoms and treatment?
binge eating disorder [BED]). What are the symptoms and treatment?
Gretchen, as I understand it, eating disorders and substance abuse share a number of common risk factors, including brain chemistry, family history, low self-esteem, depression, anxiety, and social pressures.
How can family of origin contribute to eating disorders?
When you uncover some of these risk factors with you client, how do you start the therapeutic process, what is that like?
Why do you think these risk factors are shared between substance abusers and eating disordered people?
Gretchen, I can see how drugs and alcohol function as an escape from underlying stress, anxiety, sadness, fear or trauma. I also understand how drugs and alcohol help to provide immediate relief from pain and anxiety. Gretchen, help us understand how eating can do this as well?
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We asked our listeners about this topic.
Now, listeners, If you would like to participate in these weekly surveys, just email me an invite request. Email me at
[email protected]
And I will send you an invite to our Recoveredcast Google group. This group receives the show notes for the upcoming show. You will also receive an invite to participate in the weekly survey. You will also receive a link to call into the show so you can share you experience with the recovery topic. This group helps us prepare for each week’s topic.
Again, just email a google group invite request to
[email protected]
To get involved in each week’s show prep.
We asked our listeners,
"What helps when you are feeling inferior?”
Did you take the survey?
https://www.surveymonkey.com/analyze/x3C_2BB5TXIfQS_2BipBi1yZOAkcNwc_2Blq2fCO8_2Bubp_2FqEJN6jpHTf0J5frl6xXjMEVt
What would be your answer?
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Gretchen, you know that our listeners have been anticipating your appearance today, and listener Penny emailed me and shared some thoughts I’d like to discuss with you.
There is a saying I hear a lot t 12 step recovery meetings. O hear that overeaters have it worse than other addicts: Alcoholics can put a plug in the jug and then on a shelf but, overeaters have to let the tiger out of its cage 3 times a day.
Penny doesn’t like this saying because alcoholics still have to drink everyday just like overeaters have to eat everyday. The point is what the individual chooses to eat or drink. What are some of your thoughts around this controversy?
What are some of your thoughts about the therapeutic effect of spirituality as it relates to eating disorder recovery?
Gretchen, are you familiar with the term “allergy of the body” as it relates to alcoholics anonymous literature. The theory is that for some problem drinkers, when that person puts alcohol in the body, it triggers an allergic like reaction. The reaction is an uncontrollable compulsion to drink more. And so this type of alcoholic does. This is called, an “allergy of the body” condition. Have you ever treated someone who has this type of behavior regarding food?
Penny also writes:
Is there a difference or propensity for gender to be drawn to any one specific eating disorder such as bulimia, restricting, anorexia, binge eating and others.
Is therapy viewed as an aide to recovery of eating disorders?
Penny also write:
Being an alcoholic still has a stigma attached, but it is commonly viewed as a disease and there is great compassion if you seek help for drinking. But being overweight is viewed as loss of control, not a disease. Stigma remains for the overeater. Your thoughts?
Talk to the person who is listening and is frightened by their eating patterns.
We have calls -
Our phone call segment is brought to you by our
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Our sustaining recovered podcast partners are a big part
in our self supporting movement.
This week Michael
became a Sustaining Partners
Thank you Michael
We have three ways in which you can partner
with us in this 12-step mission to spread the good news
all around the world and
keep us online.
You can become a sustaining partner
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Thank you again
Michael
If you have experience with
Eating Disorders and Substance Abuse
you can call right now
PLAY THE JINGLE - file in google drive
________________________________________________________
Now, Let’s take calls
First up, we have
NOT TODD
Tiffany
Anonymous (Doug from Delaware)
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What would you say to the new guy about Eating Disorders and Substance Abuse?
So Remember; abandon yourself to God and admit your faults. Clear away the wreckage of your past and give freely. God bless and see you next time.
The inherent value of identification cannot be ignored when dealing with those suffering from substance use disorder. Until the suffering person is able to lower their guard, lower their sense of distrust and sense of difference enough to engage in treatment and recovery, no positive movement will take place. In order for the individual to do that, they must trust the person trying to help them. That trust comes from believing that the people trying to help know how they feel. They know what it’s like to suffer and they truly do understand what it’s like to in early recovery.
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Ok Matt
We are going to you first.
What did you think of first when you learned about tonight’s topic. The Value of Identification in recovery?
What is your
first thought
when the topic of identification comes to mind?
Before using drugs and alcohol, did you trust?
Who did you trust?
What were the circumstances?
Who did you trust most?
Who did you not trust?
When did you first learn to not trust?
What were the circumstances?
How did that affect you?
Were you trustworthy before using?
Before program, did you know anything about AA?
What did you believe recovery was about before your first meeting?
What did you actually find in AA?
______________________________________________________
We asked our listeners about this topic.
Now, listeners, If you would like to participate in these weekly surveys, just email me an invite request. Email me at
[email protected]
And I will send you an invite to our Recoveredcast Google group. This group receives the show notes for the upcoming show. You will also receive an invite to participate in the weekly survey. You will also receive a link to call into the show so you can share you experience with the recovery topic. This group helps us prepare for each week’s topic.
Again, just email a google group invite request to
[email protected]
To get involved in each week’s show prep.
We asked our listeners,
"Who did you first identify with in Recovery?”
Did you take the survey?
https://www.surveymonkey.com/analyze/4NqvBYWizspxW40DoYK7i7_2F0p4fJ3HN34QAUoR43UN_2FWX2z5WSxWvwEVKiHEuFnx
What would be your answer?
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Did you trust people in AA?
Did you think they were telling you the truth?
When did you start to learn to trust people?
When did you start to trust the program?
When did you start to trust your higher power?
Did you compare yourself to others in AA?
How does comparing and identifying differ?
When did you start to identify and not compare?
How did that help your recovery?
Why?
What happened after you were able to identify?
What part of your story do some people identify with?
How has that helped them?
How has that helped you?
We have calls -
Our phone call segment is brought to you by our
Recovered Podcast Sustaining Partners
____________________________________________________________
Our sustaining recovered podcast partners are a big part
in our self supporting movement.
This week Michael
became a Sustaining Partners
Thank you Michael
We have three ways in which you can partner
with us in this 12-step mission to spread the good news
all around the world and
keep us online.
You can become a sustaining partner
by giving on a monthly basis for one year.
As an expression of our gratitude for your donation,
we will send you Recovered podcast merch.
Merch Like Recovered Podcast Tee Shirts, mugs.
Just go to website at recoveredcast.com
And tap on the Sustaining Partners button
for more information
Thank you again
Michael
If you have experience with
The Value of Identification in Recovery
you can call right now
PLAY THE JINGLE - file in google drive
________________________________________________________
Now, Let’s take calls
First up, we have
Mike from Celebration Florida
Doug from Boston
Alex Austin
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What would you say to the new guy about The Value of Identification in Recovery?
So Remember; abandon yourself to God and admit your faults. Clear away the wreckage of your past and give freely. God bless and see you next time.
One of the emotional similarities many of us with alcoholism have with people with mental illness is that of an inferiority complex. The Al-anon can relate to this topic as well. We perpetually feel inferior to other people, we feel unworthy and inadequate. We feel as though we’re in competition with other people and that we never measure up.
Our generous Recovered Podcast Community allows us to be self supporting and not rely on outside contributions. If you would like to join us, there are three ways.
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We feel easily threatened by the people who have the happiness, health and success we want for ourselves. We envy them and begrudge them their blessings.
How can we heal from an
inferiority
complex and learn to love ourselves?
Tonight, we talk about feeling inferior.
What comes first to mind?
Where do you want to start?
What do you want to bring to the table?
When do you most frequently feel inferior? Why?
When do you most frequently feel superior? Why?
Do you compare yourself with others?
What is that about, why do we do this?
What character defect is at play here?
Do you monitoring your inner thoughts about yourself?
Are inner thoughts about your self cruel and disparaging?
Are you your own worst critic and enemy?
What character defect is at play here?
Is there someone else that used to, or still does, harshly criticize you?
Who and how has that affected you?
Has there been any trauma in your life that has affected your feelings of self worth?
______________________________________________________
We asked our listeners about this topic.
Now, listeners, If you would like to participate in these weekly surveys, just email me an invite request. Email me at
[email protected]
And I will send you an invite to our Recoveredcast Google group. This group receives the show notes for the upcoming show. You will also receive an invite to participate in the weekly survey. You will also receive a link to call into the show so you can share you experience with the recovery topic. This group helps us prepare for each week’s topic.
Again, just email a google group invite request to
[email protected]
To get involved in each week’s show prep.
We asked our listeners,
"What helps when you are feeling inferior?”
Did you take the survey?
https://www.surveymonkey.com/analyze/x3C_2BB5TXIfQS_2BipBi1yZOAkcNwc_2Blq2fCO8_2Bubp_2FqEJN6jpHTf0J5frl6xXjMEVt
What would be your answer?
________________________________________________________
How well do you take constructive criticism?
How well do you take destructive criticism?
Do you ever get confused between the two?
What is envy?
a feeling of discontented or resentful longing aroused by someone else's possessions, qualities, or luck.
What is jealousy?
feeling or showing envy of someone or their achievements and advantages.
What is the difference?
envy is a two-person situation whereas jealousy is a three-person situation. Envy is a reaction to lacking something. Jealousy is a reaction to the threat of losing something (usually someone)
Do you struggle at times when good things happen to other people?
How do you deal with this?
Why do you have these thoughts?
What character defect is at play here?
How does shifting thoughts to positive, uplifting, encouraging ones help you with your feel of self worth?
Have you ever meditated with you higher power on your strengths, talents, gifts and accomplishments?
Why or why not?
Name a few.
Do you forgive yourself for past mistakes and wrongdoings? How?
Our inferiority complexes are usually rooted in insecurities.
What are you insecure about? Why? Is this valid?
What is at root of your insecurity?
How can you change this insecurity?
What steps help?
How has the fellowship helped?
How has service work helped?
How has prayer and meditation helped?
We have calls -
Our phone call segment is brought to you by our
Recovered Podcast Sustaining Partners
____________________________________________________________
Our sustaining recovered podcast partners are a big part
in our self supporting movement.
This week Amanda, Janice
became a Sustaining Partners
Thank you Amanda, Janice
We have three ways in which you can partner
with us in this 12-step mission to spread the good news
all around the world and
keep us online.
You can become a sustaining partner
by giving on a monthly basis for one year.
As an expression of our gratitude for your donation,
we will send you Recovered podcast merch.
Merch Like Recovered Podcast Tee Shirts, mugs.
Just go to website at recoveredcast.com
And tap on the Sustaining Partners button
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Thank you again
Amanda, Janice
If you have experience with
Feeling Inferior in Recovery
you can call right now
PLAY THE JINGLE - file in google drive
________________________________________________________
Now, Let’s take calls
First up, we have
Mike from Celebration Florida
________________________________________________________
What would you say to the new guy about Feeling Inferior in Recovery?
So Remember; abandon yourself to God and admit your faults. Clear away the wreckage of your past and give freely. God bless and see you next time.
So much of 12 step recovery work, whether in meetings, working steps, prayer, talking with a sponsor, or individual counseling, is about people in recovery improving their mental health.
Our generous Recovered Podcast Community allows us to be self supporting and not rely on outside contributions. If you would like to join us, there are three ways.
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For many of us, taking care of our mental health is a critical component in recovery from drug and alcohol addiction. Along with working 12 step program, taking care of our mental health is one of the most important factors in achieving long-term sobriety and living a happy and fulfilling life in the process.
How do you take care of yourself regarding your mental health?
In way do you struggle?
Have you ever gone for therapy?
What was your experience?
Did your therapist incorporate 12 step work in with your therapist?
Did you use drugs and alcohol as a way to self medicate?
How did you cope coming into program?
Why did you see a professional?
How did you select a professional?
What was the process like?
How is therapy like 12 step work?
How is it different?
How can 12 step programs help with your mental health?
How can it hinder?
How can prayer help with mental health?
How can the steps help with mental health?
How can meetings help with mental health?
Have you had conflicts between therapy and your 12 step recovery program?
How was your therapy compatible with 12 step work?
______________________________________________________
We asked our listeners about this topic.
We asked,
"Have you ever been to therapy?”
Did you take the survey?
https://www.surveymonkey.com/analyze/krmWuvm0oMh24a5z2QNTzM_2F4tCpiosVfvNyf32UcAjuHoiJOMTnEY7vroEtIXvVj
What would be your answer?
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Do you know someone who suffers with mental illness?
What is your experience?
How can you help?
How can you make things worse?
Is your therapist your sponsor?
Why or why not?
How does your therapist differ from your sponsor?
How are they similar?
Do you see mental health stigma in 12 step fellowships?
What has been your experience?
How can you help reduce stigma?
How can stigma be harmful to sobriety?
Do you think it important to get sober before therapy?
____________________________________________________________
We have calls -
Our phone call segment is brought to you by our
Recovered Podcast Sustaining Partners
Our sustaining recovered podcast partners are a big part
in our self supporting movement.
This week Penny
became a Sustaining Partner
Thank you Penny
We have three ways in which you can partner
with us in this 12-step mission to spread the good news
all around the world and
keep us online.
You can become a sustaining partner
by giving on a monthly basis for one year.
As an expression of our gratitude for your donation,
we will send you Recovered podcast merch.
Merch Like Recovered Podcast Tee Shirts, mugs.
Just go to website at http://recoveredcast.com
And tap on the Sustaining Partners button
for more information
Thank you again
Penny
________________________________________________________
If you have experience with
Mental Health, Stigma, and Recovery
you can call right now
PLAY THE JINGLE - file in google drive
Now, Let’s take calls
First up, we have
Jade
Nicole
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What would you say to the new guy about Mental Health, Stigma, and Recovery?
So Remember; abandon yourself to God and admit your faults. Clear away the wreckage of your past and give freely. God bless and see you next time.
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