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What happens when one partner longs for more sex while the other feels pressured to pull away? In this episode, sex therapist and psychotherapist Brooke Bralove joins EJ and Tarah to explore why differences in sexual desire are normal, how pressure creates distance, and what couples can do to rebuild intimacy, trust, and connection.
In this episode, we talk about:
Different levels of sexual desire don't mean something is wrong with your relationship. The real struggle often begins when one partner feels rejected and the other feels pressured, creating a cycle that pushes both further apart.
Rebuilding intimacy requires both partners to take responsibility for their part. When pressure is replaced with empathy, honest communication, and affection without expectations, desire has room to grow again.
Intimacy isn't something one partner owes the other. It's a connection both partners work together to nurture.
The next time you notice affection turning into pressure, pause and ask your partner:
“What helps you feel close to me without feeling obligated?”
Choose one small moment of connection, whether it's holding hands, sharing a longer kiss, or simply cuddling.
Agree that it doesn't have to lead to anything more.
If you're feeling rejected, share the hurt underneath your frustration.
If you're feeling pressured, express what would help you feel safe.
Then ask each other: “What's one step we can both take toward each other this week?”
Because rebuilding desire isn't about demanding more intimacy. It's about creating the safety that allows connection to return.
Connect with Brooke Bralove:
Website: https://brookebralove.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brookebralovepsychotherapy/
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What if waiting for the perfect moment to tell your partner something is actually creating more distance between you? In this episode, EJ and Tarah Kerwin explore why we avoid difficult conversations, how withholding the truth builds anxiety, and why speaking up sooner can create deeper trust and emotional safety.
In this episode, we talk about:
Waiting for the right moment can sometimes be another way of avoiding discomfort. What feels like protecting your partner may actually be protecting yourself from their reaction, while leaving both of you carrying more stress and uncertainty.
Telling the truth faster doesn't mean speaking without care or consideration. It means challenging your assumptions, allowing your partner to respond for themselves, and recognizing that honesty builds emotional safety when you learn to navigate difficult moments together.
Honesty doesn't eliminate discomfort, but it creates the opportunity to face it together.
❤️ Your Love Work
The next time you catch yourself waiting for the perfect moment to speak up, ask your partner:
“Could we tell the truth faster?”
Then explore: “Where do we tend to hold things back, and why?”
Think about something you've been carrying but haven't shared.
Ask yourself: “Am I protecting my partner, or am I avoiding their reaction?”
Instead of assuming how they'll respond, share what you're afraid might happen.
Give each other the opportunity to listen, respond, and work through it together.
Because telling the truth faster isn't about having perfect conversations. It's about learning that you don't have to carry difficult things alone.
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As always, take care of yourself and take care of each other.
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What if porn addiction isn't really about sex, but about escaping stress, loneliness, and shame? In this episode, we sit down with Jeremy Lipkowitz to explore how compulsive pornography use affects trust and intimacy, and why real recovery goes beyond simply stopping the behavior.
In this episode, we talk about:
Sobriety is not the same as recovery. Simply stopping pornography use doesn't address the loneliness, stress, anxiety, or shame that may be driving the behavior in the first place.
Real recovery begins with understanding those emotions, practicing mindfulness, and learning healthier ways to respond. It's not just about breaking a habit, but about rebuilding honesty, self-respect, and meaningful connection.
Compassion and accountability can exist together.
The next time you feel the urge to escape into a habit, pause and ask:
“What am I trying not to feel right now?”
Is it loneliness, stress, anxiety, or shame?
Instead of immediately distracting yourself, try sitting with that feeling.
Recognize it. Allow it. Get curious about it. Respond with compassion.
And if secrecy has created distance in your relationship, ask:
“What would honesty and taking responsibility look like right now?”
Because real recovery isn't just about stopping a behavior.
It's about learning to face discomfort without hiding—and choosing connection over escape.
Connect with Jeremy Lipkowitz:
Unhooked Academy: https://unhookedacademy.com/
Unhooked: Breaking Porn Addiction Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unhooked-breaking-porn-addiction-podcast/id1648984850
Connect with Relationship Renovation:
👉 Apply for coaching here
👥 Men’s Group
📘 Relationship Renovation Book
Website: https://relationshiprenovation.com/
Instagram: @relationship_renovation
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@relationshiprenovation
As always, take care of yourself and take care of each other.
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Have you ever been in an argument with your partner and thought:
“If we could just go back and watch the tape, you’d see that I’m right.”
We get it.
Sometimes conflict feels like a bad instant replay review. Who said what? Who promised what? Who forgot? Who is remembering it correctly?
But when every disagreement turns into a battle over whose version of reality is right, couples can get stuck in what we call a:
War of Perspectives.
And once that happens, it is really easy to fall into The Courtroom Trap.
One person starts presenting evidence.
The other starts defending themselves.
Both people are trying to prove their case.
And somewhere along the way, the actual emotional experience underneath the conflict gets lost. 300_War_of_Perspectives_AD_10_4…
In this episode, we talk about:
We use one of our own recurring conflicts as an example.
Tarah asks EJ to follow through on something around the house.
It does not get done.
Tarah experiences that as anxiety, mistrust, and a fear that what matters to her is not important.
EJ hears the frustration and immediately starts thinking about everything else he did accomplish.
Why?
Because underneath the disagreement, he is not only defending the task.
He is defending something much deeper:
“I don’t want you to see me as lazy, unreliable, or someone who doesn’t care about you.”
And Tarah is protecting something deeper too:
“I need to know that what matters to me matters to you.” 300_War_of_Perspectives_AD_10_4…
That is where the work really begins.
Not with deciding who wins.
With understanding what each person is protecting.
The ShiftInstead of:
“Let me prove why your version is wrong.”
Try:
“What is this bringing up for you?”
Then listen for what is underneath the facts.
Maybe it is:
When both people can understand the experience underneath the argument, they can finally return to the actual problem and solve it together.
❤️ Your Love WorkThe next time you and your partner start arguing over who said what or who is right, notice whether you are trying to pull out the tape.
Pause and ask:
“Are we trying to understand each other right now, or are we trying to get a ruling?”
Then each person gets to answer one question:
“What is this situation bringing up for me underneath the surface?”
Listen.
Validate.
Then come back to the practical issue.
Because the goal is not to crown the winner of the argument.
Don’t make it about ruling. Make it about connection.
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As always, take care of yourself and take care of each other.
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Therapy language can be incredibly helpful.
Words like attachment style, avoidance, stonewalling, narcissism, and trauma can help us understand patterns that once felt confusing.
But what happens when we start using those words against our partner in the middle of conflict?
In this episode, we respond to a listener who asked about the growing tendency for couples to psychoanalyze each other during arguments.
And we start with something very real from our own relationship:
Tarah has called EJ a narcissist before.
In the moment, it felt completely true to her.
But what she was actually trying to communicate was much more personal:
“It feels like your needs matter more than mine.”
That difference matters.
Because when we say:
“You are a narcissist.”
“You are avoidant.”
“You are a stonewaller.”
“You’re overly sensitive.”
we are no longer simply describing a behavior.
We are telling our partner who they are.
And instead of helping them become more curious or accountable, that often creates shame, defensiveness, anger, and even more distance.
In this episode, we talk about:
One of the biggest shifts we talk about is this:
Instead of telling your partner what they are, tell them what you are struggling with.
For example:
Instead of:
“You’re stonewalling me.”
Try:
“When you go quiet and pull away, I feel really alone and disconnected from you.”
Instead of:
“You’re so dramatic.”
Try:
“I’m feeling overwhelmed by how intense this feels right now, and I’m not sure how to be there for you.”
That takes more vulnerability.
But it also gives your partner something they can actually respond to.
Because the goal of conflict is not to prove your partner’s diagnosis.
The goal is to understand what is happening between you.
❤️ Your Love WorkThe next time you catch yourself wanting to label your partner, pause and ask:
“What am I actually experiencing underneath this label?”
Then try saying that instead.
And if the label already came out, try a repair:
“I just analyzed you. What I probably could have done was tell you what I’m actually feeling. Can I try that again?”
You don’t have to get every hard conversation right the first time.
Sometimes changing the relationship happens when you simply catch the old move—and try a different one.
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As always, take care of yourself and take care of each other.
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What happens when your partner is hurting—and somewhere along the way, their pain starts making you feel insecure?
In this episode, we unpacked something that happened between us after Tarah had an especially difficult day.
EJ wanted to listen. He wanted to support her. He wanted to give her room to struggle without fixing it.
And for a while, he did.
But as Tarah’s sadness lasted longer and began expanding from “I had a hard day” into “I’m overwhelmed with our life,” something shifted inside EJ.
He stopped simply listening to understand her experience.
He started listening for reassurance.
Are we okay?
Are you happy with our life?
Is this about me?
When are you going to feel better so I can know we’re okay again?
That shift can happen so quietly that neither partner realizes it.
And suddenly the person who was hurting feels pressure to recover more quickly—not because their partner doesn’t care, but because their pain has started activating their partner’s own fear and insecurity.
In this episode, we talk about:
One of the biggest ideas we discovered in this conversation was:
Notice when you stop listening to understand and start listening for reassurance.
Because once we begin needing our partner to say the “right” thing so that we can feel secure, curiosity often disappears.
We become defensive.
We try to solve.
We withdraw.
We start waiting for them to get over it.
And the person who originally needed connection can end up feeling even more alone.
This becomes especially complicated when both partners are suffering at the same time.
We talk about this through the lens of intimacy too.
The higher-desire partner may be waiting to hear:
“I want you again.”
The lower-desire partner may be waiting to hear:
“I accept you exactly where you are.”
Both people are hurting.
Both want reassurance.
And both may struggle to truly hear the other person until they feel safe themselves.
Sometimes the first step isn't solving the intimacy problem.
It's creating enough emotional space for each person to say:
“This is what this experience has been like for me.”
And for the other partner to listen without immediately defending their own chair.
❤️ Your Love WorkThe next time your partner is sharing something difficult, quietly check in with yourself:
Am I still listening to understand them—or have I started listening for reassurance?
If you notice yourself becoming defensive, scared, depleted, or desperate for them to feel differently, try naming it before you disappear.
You might say:
“I really want to keep hearing you. I’m noticing that I’m starting to feel insecure and personalize some of what you’re saying. I don't want that to turn into defensiveness or make me pull away. I may need a little space, but I want to come back to this with you.”
And when both of you are struggling, try one more question:
“Can we make room for what this has been like for both of us?”
Your partner does not have to stop hurting before your relationship can be secure.
Sometimes emotional safety means learning that pain and love can exist in the same room.
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Instagram: @relationshiprenovation
As always, take care of yourself and take care of each other.
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Life gets stressful.
Money. Kids. Work. Family. Health. Business. Parenting. The pressure doesn’t disappear just because you love each other.
And here’s the frustrating part:
Your relationship can help you withstand stress—but stress can also reduce your capacity to participate in the relationship.
That’s what we’re talking about in this episode.
Over the years, we’ve lived through twins, a blended family, financial pressure, businesses, intimacy struggles, parenting stress, and a whole lot of moments where it felt like we were simply bracing for whatever came next.
And under stress, we don’t cope the same way.
EJ tends to go inward. He processes privately, tries to solve things on his own, and becomes harder to reach.
Tarah tends to go outward. Anxiety increases, urgency rises, emotions get bigger, and she reaches for connection.
Neither response is intentionally harmful.
But together, they can create a painful cycle:
The way one partner copes with stress can increase the other partner’s stress—and eventually both people can feel alone inside the same relationship.
In this episode, we talk about:
One of the biggest realizations in this conversation was that getting through a hard moment isn’t always the end of the work.
Sometimes one partner has cried, processed, and already feels okay again—while the other is still putting themselves back together days later.
And if we never tell each other what that internal process looks like, we can miss an opportunity to stay connected.
Tarah described that feeling beautifully:
Being “in each other’s care.”
Not fixing each other.
Not carrying everything for each other.
But continuing to pay attention to what your partner is experiencing—even when your own process looks completely different.
Because stress and pressure aren’t going away.
The work is learning how to face them without abandoning each other inside them.
❤️ Your Love WorkHave this conversation during a relatively calm moment:
What happens to me when I’m under a lot of stress?
Do I go inward? Get louder? Become irritable? Start fixing? Withdraw? Get anxious? Shut down?
Then ask each other:
“When we are both stressed, what helps you still feel like we’re facing it together?”
And one more:
“If you don’t have the capacity to be fully present with me in that moment, how can you tell me that in a way that still helps me know you care and you’re coming back?”
You don’t have to process stress the same way.
You do need to learn how to keep finding each other while you’re in it.
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As always, take care of yourself and take care of each other.
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You love your partner. You want to be there for them. You want to listen, support, and make space for what they’re feeling.
But what happens when their nervous system starts affecting yours?
That’s exactly what happened to us this week.
Tarah was overwhelmed and needed to vent. EJ wanted to be present and supportive. But a few minutes into the conversation, EJ could feel himself reaching his own emotional capacity.
And that led us to a bigger question:
How do you hold space for your partner without disappearing inside their emotions?
In this episode, we explore what we’ve started thinking of as Three Nervous Systems:
Mine. Yours. Ours.
There’s the nervous system of the person who is struggling.
There’s the nervous system of the person trying to support them.
And there’s the state of safety and connection happening between the two of you.
We talk about:
One of the biggest takeaways from this conversation:
Willingness to be there is not the same as limitless capacity.
You can love your partner deeply and still need to say:
“I really want to stay with you in this, but I think I’m reaching my capacity.”
That isn’t abandonment.
Done well, it can actually be a way of protecting the relationship before both nervous systems go offline.
❤️ Your Love WorkTalk about this during a calm moment.
Ask each other:
When I’m overwhelmed, what do I usually need from you?
How do you know when you’re starting to reach your capacity?
What could we say to each other in that moment that would still communicate, “I love you, I’m here, and I want to protect us”?
Because love asks us to make room for each other’s emotions.
It does not ask either person to disappear inside of them.
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Instagram: @relationshiprenovation
As always, take care of yourself and take care of each other.
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You talked it through. You didn’t blow up. You actually reached a resolution.
So why does it still feel weird between you?
This week, we had a difficult conversation after our kids left for school. And honestly, we handled it pretty well. We stayed regulated, avoided falling into the Courtroom Trap, listened to each other, and figured out what needed to change.
But then we went about our morning—and something still felt off.
The conflict was over, but our bodies hadn’t quite gotten the message yet.
We call this The Moment After: that vulnerable space after a difficult conversation when everything may technically be okay, but you haven’t fully softened back toward each other.
And if you’re not careful, this is exactly where another small moment can reignite the conflict you just worked so hard to resolve.
In this episode, we talk about:
One of the most powerful things you can say in The Moment After may simply be:
“I’m still a little activated, but you and I are okay.”
Because ending the disagreement is only part of the work.
Repair gets you out of the conflict. The Moment After determines how you find each other again.
❤️ Your Love WorkDuring a neutral moment this week, talk about what happens for each of you after a difficult conversation.
Ask each other:
What happens inside me after conflict?
What helps me know that you and I are okay again?
What could you do that would help me soften and reconnect with you?
You don't need the same thing. One of you may need reassurance while the other needs touch, eye contact, or a little space.
The goal is to understand each other's process and intentionally create your own bridge back to connection.
Website: RelationshipRenovation.com
Instagram: @relationshiprenovation
As always, take care of yourself and take care of each other.
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“Why are we STILL dealing with this?”
If you've ever had the same argument with your partner for what feels like the hundredth time, you may have wondered whether all the work you're doing is actually making a difference.
We had one of those moments this week.
EJ forgot to pay a credit card bill on time. The mistake cost us $15—which doesn't sound like much. But underneath that $15 were years of history around money, trust, responsibility, defensiveness, and emotional safety.
Tarah could feel herself slipping into an old story: If I don't take care of everything, things won't get done.
EJ could feel himself heading toward defensiveness: I handle so much, and now I'm going to be judged for one mistake.
We've had versions of this fight many times before.
But this time, something different happened.
Within minutes, we were okay.
In this episode, we unpack what each of us did differently and why we believe one of the biggest mistakes couples make is measuring progress by whether an old problem ever comes back.
We explore:
We also introduce an idea we're developing inside Relationship Renovation:
Relationships Change Through RepsHealthy relationships aren't necessarily relationships where familiar problems disappear.
They're relationships where two people gradually learn to respond differently when those familiar moments return.
Same Trigger → Different Response → Different Outcome
So instead of asking:
“Why are we still having this problem?”
Try asking:
“Are we getting better at how we handle it?”
❤️ Your Love WorkChoose one recurring pain point in your relationship.
Not while you're fighting about it, but during a calm moment, talk together about:
How can each of us get 10% better the next time this happens?
Because progress doesn't mean you'll never get triggered again.
Progress is when those triggers begin to lose their power over what happens next.
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As always, take care of yourself and take care of each other.
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You love each other. So why does the same fight keep happening?
Married therapists Tarah and EJ Kerwin help couples understand the patterns behind recurring arguments, emotional distance, and…
Drawing on their own marriage, their work with couples, and relationship science, they bring honest conversations and practical tools to communication, emotional safety, trust, sex, and connection.
They share the moments they get wrong, too: defensiveness, missed signals, old hurts, and the work of finding each other again.
Whether one of you shuts down, small disagreements escalate, or you feel disconnected after an argument, you’ll learn ways to recognize your cycle, repair after conflict, and build a more connected relationship.
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