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Run Like Hell: Practical Tips as You Start to Break Free from a Toxic Relationship with Dr. Nadine Macaluso on Divorce & Beyond #371


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Susan Guthrie welcomes Dr. Nadine Macaluso (Dr. Nae), a renowned therapist specializing in trauma healing, to tackle a transformative topic for January, known as “Divorce Month.” As the real-life inspiration for Naomi in The Wolf of Wall Street, Dr. Nae blends her personal journey of escaping a trauma bond with her professional expertise to help you recognize, escape, and heal from toxic relationships.

This episode offers a roadmap for understanding trauma bonds, preparing your exit safely, and embracing a healthier future. Whether you're just beginning to see the dynamics of your relationship or are ready to take your next steps, Dr. Nae’s practical strategies and insights will empower you to reclaim your life.


What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

  • How to prepare to leave safely, the importance of having a strategy, and why “never let them see you coming” matters.
  • How awareness leads to empowerment by understanding trauma bonds as the first step to breaking them.
  • The role of trusted professionals, including therapists, attorneys, and divorce coaches, in assembling your wraparound team.
  • More About Our Special Guest, Dr. Nadine Macaluso: Affectionately known as Dr. Nae, Dr. Nadine Macaluso is a therapist specializing in trauma healing and personal transformation. Her life inspired the character Naomi Belfort in The Wolf of Wall Street. After overcoming personal challenges, she earned a Master's in counseling and a Ph.D. in somatic psychotherapy. Dr. Macaluso helps individuals recover from trauma bonds, C-PTSD, and shame. She is also the author of Run Like Hell: A Therapist's Guide to Recognizing, Escaping, and Healing From Trauma Bonds.

    Website: https://drnae.com/


    Book: Run Like Hell: A Therapist's Guide to Recognizing, Escaping, and Healing from Trauma Bonds 

    Download the First Chapter of Dr. Nae’s new book, Run Like Hell: A Therapist’s Guide to Recognizing, Escaping, and Healing from Trauma Bonds https://drnae.com/giveawaybook/

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    http://youtube.com/TheRealDrNadine

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