What does living with cancer do to your perspective on life? If Deborah James is anything to go by, it gives you a hunger for life, and a drive to make fundamental and long-lasting change to the system.

Mum of two, Deborah James, also known as Bowel Babe, joins Holly in this episode to discuss her formative years, how she navigated the news every person would dread and how she is spending each day driving to make a change to the system.

It is this desire to see a better way and strive to change it, that runs throughout Deborah’s story.  Her open and honest words on riding the roller coaster of life are a testament to the power of the human spirit.

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