In this episode, hosts Julie and Cathy are joined by special guest Lindsay for a deep dive into sales conversations—specifically, what makes them feel sleazy and how you can flip that script for 2025 and beyond. If you’ve ever shuddered at pushy car salesmen, dodgy DMs, or aggressive tactics, you’re not alone. Together, the trio share their worst sales experiences and unpack why outdated tactics simply don’t work anymore, especially for a savvy, trust-conscious audience.