Traveling with kids can be intimidating and even downright scary. But it's also rewarding. In today's episode, I have a special treat. I am chatting with my best friend and travel-with-kids-guru Amanda about adventuring both in and out of the country as  a family.

Amanda and her family were recently in Hawaii for the false missile alert. She's also been hospitalized while traveling on more than one occasion--but she doesn't let any of this slow her down. In fact, we are preparing to head out on a joint international family adventure soon.

In this interview we'll talk about our upcoming trip to an unlikely destination, packing light, dealing with kiddie jet lag, and the importance of planning less for these types of adventures.

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