Welcome back to So What Now, where the convos are chaotic and the wine is always flowing 🍷 In this episode, we're diving deep (and maybe too far 😭) into everything from Rapture Talk 2025 to Cardi B's new album, revenge baby, and messy baby daddy drama.

We're asking the real questions like: – Did the Rapture already happen and we got left behind? 👀 – Can you repent on your way out and still make it to heaven? – Are all sins really the same, or are some just low-heat sins? 🔥 – And what's the meal prep plan before… b*** stuff? (Asking for a friend 💀)

Plus, we break down: ✨ Why we might just marry each other for free health insurance (no co-pay, no problem) ✨ Parenting moments that humbled us — like when your kid tells a stranger they're fat 🫠 ✨ Cardi B's "Am I The Drama?" era and whether revenge pregnancies count as healing

It's faith, foolishness, and friendship all in one episode — and yes, it's unfiltered.

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🎧 Tune in for laughs, lessons, and a little repentance — because life's wild, and we're just trying to figure out… So What Now?

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It's football season, y'all! And guess what? Carla and I are finally ready to dive in. We're trying to understand the hype, the rules, and maybe even pick a team (no promises though). From touchdowns to tight ends, we're figuring it out one game at a time.

Then we pivot to pop culture, because of course we do and whew, let's talk about Dame Dash on The Breakfast Club. When are folks gonna stop trying to match energy with Charlamagne? That man lives for chaos! Carla and I revisit our favorite moments.

Now buckle up, because the vibes shift fast. I'm officially obsessed with the latest legal circus: the Michaela case an OnlyFans model and a 55-year-old man who paid her $11K to perform extreme kink acts, including gluing his eyes shut and walking on him with boots. It was all supposedly consensual, and filmed, but things went sideways. Carla and I were wondering how she still ended up facing serious charges… ChatGPT actually broke it down for us. The legal tea is wild.

We also get into Cardi B's pregnancy announcement, congrats to her! Even though Alexa lied to us about how many kids her new man has (we'll forgive her… maybe). We talk about how women, especially in the spotlight, are expected to do it all. Carla drops some real talk on what it takes to not fall into the superwoman trap.

And finally, let's talk about Ray Daniels hot take- Women Love Criminals Why do so many women — even ones from seemingly stable backgrounds like Mariah the Scientist — end up in relationships with men who come with a rap sheet? Carla and I get honest about the psychology, the patterns, and yes, the red flags we've all ignored at some point.

It's a mix of chaos, culture, and curiosity this week. Tune in, because you already know we're asking the real questions.

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We kick off this weeks episode with a motherhood update. Carla opens up about new and uncharted challenges of motherhood this week. Her little one just started Pre-K. It's been a rough ride, and Carla's not sugarcoating it. The struggle bus is real, and Carla's driving it with no GPS.

Then things take a sharp (and hilarious) left turn into pop culture: we dive into the Cardi B trial — yes, the $24 million lawsuit from a security guard that somehow made it to court. The drama! The absurdity! The joy! Carla turned to her bestie ChatGPT for a breakdown of how this could even happen. While we're talking Cardi, we go full conspiracy mode trying to guess who her new baby daddy is — and why she's being so secretive about the pregnancy. We have thoughts.

Carla's also still deep in her docuseries era, and this week she's all about Beytral: The Podcast (Session Three) on Hulu. She gives a full (spoilery) breakdown of the chaos, the drama, and the absolute insanity of it all.

We close out the show with Southwest Airlines' new controversial policy: plus-size passengers now required to purchase two seats. Dex isn't convinced it'll be enforceable, and we break down what this means for travel, equity, and common sense.

Tune in for laughs, hot takes, and a lot of "what is even happening right now?"

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This week, we're diving deep into the future of dating — and it's getting a high-tech upgrade. Bumble founder Whitney Wolfe Herd says AI could soon help you navigate dating anxiety, improve your communication, and even "date" other AIs to find your perfect match. Helpful or horrifying? We weigh in.

Then, tennis pro Sachia Vickery has gone viral after revealing she requires a $1,000 deposit before any date. Is this setting boundaries or setting a new trend? And what does that conversation actually sound like?

Also, are we okay with step-parents adopting kids when the biological parent is still involved? The internet is buzzing with rumors about Russell Wilson and Ciara's son with rapper Future. We unpack the debate. Over in the UK, families are now eligible for 30 hours of free childcare per week — a major win for working parents. So why is Florida trying to eliminate all vaccine requirements for kids? We discuss the contrast.

Tune in for the hot takes, the real talk, and the questions nobody else is asking.

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Hey Friends it's Carla! Welcome back to another episode of So What Now? Let's get right into this week's wild ride! So Bella Thorne hopped on IG sharing that she proposed to her fiancé… after he already did it first. I'm sorry, what?? Nah. Ya'll know I have thoughts (spoiler: I am not out here getting on one knee, let's be so serious).

And of course, Dex went off on one of her classic rants. This time about how some things are strictly "for men." Like proposing. Like budgeting. Like… anything that feels like work. According to her, we deserve to live soft, fun, budget-free lives and honestly? She might be onto something.

Then we slid into the listener letters, and babyyyy it got spicy. We heard from a teacher who's also on OF. She's tryna decide if she should quit her 9-to-5 and go full-time as a spicy girl. You know we had to weigh in. But somehow that convo took a sharp left turn into us telling our embarrassing secrets and yes, both of ours happened on cruise ships. Don't ask, just press play.

Grab your drink, your headphones, and your nosiest friend — this one's a wild ride!

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In this episode, we kick things off with the hidden cost of friendship — turns out, staying social could be costing you over $250 a month in brunches, happy hours, and birthday dinners. Then we get into dating finances, where new data shows men are spending $15,000 more per year in relationships, largely driven by lingering provider expectations. How much is your man spending on you?

Dex brings us a shocking story out of Brooklyn: a man lost his fully paid-off $800K home over a $5K water bill. She also shares a personal horror story about the hidden traps and predatory fines cities can hit you with as a property owner.

Carla wraps things up with the story of Khloé Kardashian stepping in as primary caregiver for Tristan Thompson's younger brother, Amari. While Carla sees it as a generous act of love, Dex questions whether it's just another chapter in Khloé's inability to let go of Tristan.

Whether you're here for the facts, the feels, or the side-eye — we've got you covered.

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This week on So What Now?, I kicked things off with a few thoughts on all the buzz surrounding the Woman Evolve conference and shared a little bit about what the experience was like for me personally. We also wanted to catch up with y'all, so we took some time to dig into a couple of listener letters because let's be honest, our inbox is overflowing and these topics deserved some attention. One letter came from someone feeling the heat from her mom to get married ASAP, and we talked about how to honor your own timeline without blowing up the family cookout. The other came from a woman who's thriving solo, but keeps getting told she's "too independent" to be dateable. We unpacked the difference between being self-sufficient and emotionally unavailable, and how to leave room for love without shrinking yourself. And then we heard from someone whose ex just won't let go still liking her posts, sending memes, and dropping "I miss us" texts every week. We got into why men do this, how to set real boundaries, and why sometimes, hitting that block button isn't petty it's necessary. As always, we kept it real, gave our best advice and honestly, who needs a therapist when you've got me and Dex? LOL.

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This week, Dex came in hot with the age-old(and honestly, exhausting) question: Are you wife material? We broke down a xoNecole article where 10 men shared what makes a woman "wife" vs. "girlfriend" material and whew, some of these takes had me raising eyebrows and clenching my pearls. From emotional maturity to splitting bills to being "referred" like a LinkedIn job post, we had plenty to say. Spoiler alert: Dex absolutely flunked the wifey quiz. 😂

Then we had to pivot to check in with my mommas, because back-to-school season is no joke. We discussed another article that reminded me how vital it is for Black women to prioritize ourselves especially when we're constantly expected to carry everyone else. Trusting others, knowing your limits, setting boundaries, and redefining self-care as non-negotiable? We're leaning into all of that. This episode is part therapy, part side-eye, and 100% necessary.

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This week, me, and Carla are comparing social media timelines and realizing just how differently our algorithms are built. Mine? Full of the usual celeb mess. Carla's? Somehow led us into a convo about butt sniffers. I'm still recovering.

We get into the age-gap dating buzz between Karrueche Tran (37) and Deion Sanders (57)—is there a cutoff age where nobody cares anymore, or are we still side-eyeing big gaps?

Then we talk about Kamala Harris—she's not running for California Governor, which has me wondering: is she over America or early 2028 presidential plotting?

And per usual Carla and I have a heated disagreement: Traci Ellis Ross said she's traveling without underwear to save space. What?? Panties take up no room. Carla's out here defending it, talking about washing them in the sink. I said what I said: the math ain't mathing.

Tune in for timeline chaos, political tea, and way too much talk about butts.

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This week on So What Now, we unpack a viral TikTok that challenges the usual checklist for choosing a partner. Sure, faith, finances, and fitness are great—but what about the ability to suffer well? Life will get messy, and having someone who doesn't fall apart in the chaos might just be the most underrated trait of all. Dex keeps it real and admits she's not built for bedside caregiving—she'll cut the check, but don't look for soup and soft words. And if she ever becomes the one in need? Her motto is simple: just take her out!

Things take a turn when we discuss the woman who found out her husband's ex hacked their home security system and watched over 44,000 minutes of footage. Dex is baffled at how anyone has that kind of time, while Carla confesses she might've been one click away from doing the same.

We also tap into the rising trend of "poly-working"—people holding down two full-time jobs, often powered by AI. Carla's here for it (shoutout to her ADHD superpowers), but Dex is barely making it through one job. Speaking of jobs, Carla shares a little about her short-lived corporate career and the moment it ended with a good ol' fashioned workplace fight. Yes, hands were thrown. You definitely want to hear this one.

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