First of all, we are old. Like, what is happening?! My allergies are out here fighting for their life, and Dex’s back is giving up on her. If y’all have any remedies for allergies that don’t involve me living in a bubble, let me know because I am struggling.

But let’s get into it—this week, we had a very heated debate over Ayesha Howard and Anthony Howard. Listen, I just have questions—like, is it okay to still be making major mistakes at 38 when choosing who to have a baby with? Because at some point, shouldn’t we be making better decisions? Meanwhile, Dex is over here saying we’re all making assumptions about Ayesha’s situation, and she deserves more grace. And the big question—should a woman give up her baby just because the man makes it clear he doesn’t want to be involved? Whew. We got into it.

Speaking of bad decisions at our big age, we took a little detour to talk about the Take It Down Act—which, yes, is being pushed by Melania Trump. It’s aimed at protecting people from revenge porn, but it had us asking—are grown people still sending nudes in 2025? 

Then we switch gears to 19-year-old Aleyshia Ortiz, who is out here suing her school district for graduating her without knowing how to read or write. WHO is to blame for this? The school system? Her parents? Dex is out here calling for George Bush’s standardized testing (who knew she’d miss that?!), and I—Carla—am putting this one on her mama.Because how do you not notice your child can’t read?!

We need to hear from y’all! Should Ayesha have kept the baby? Are we too old to be sending nudes? And who do we blame for Aleyshia’s situation? Hit us up! Let’s talk about it. 👏🏽

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Alright y’all, this week’s episode is a rollercoaster. First up, Carla has big feelings about Casey Anthony’s latest rebrand as a legal advocate. Yea, you read that right. And let’s just say, she has some thoughts.

Then, we get into Gayle King going to space with Jeff Bezos’ wife. Carla thinks it’s cool. Me? Absolutely not. Why are rich people so obsessed with space? It’s not like you can actually get out and explore. Somebody make it make sense.

And speaking of nonsense, Omarion is out here saying he doesn’t take women on dates—he takes them on gatherings. You know I’m rolling my eyes, right? Ugh!  Carla thinks he’s giving off feminine energy. Either way, the dating bar is in hell, ladies.

We wrapped things up with a listener letter from a woman who wants to date differently—she’s trying to slow things down but doesn’t want to scare men off. So, how do you unlearn rushing into relationships and actually get to know someone before jumping in? We get into it.

Hit play, and let’s talk about it! 🎙️

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Ooooh, friend, buckle up ‘cause this episode is packed with Aha! moments and truths that'll hit you straight in the chest. We had our second-ever guest, the fabulous Coach Netra, a lifestyle and nutrition coach who’s all about women’s health. And you KNOW we had a ton of questions for her.

Now, who remembers when we could hit the gym for just a week in our 20s and come out snatched? Yeah, baby… those days are long gone. I’m over here tryna figure out why I crave chocolate around my cycle, and Carla’s out here wondering if it’s okay to keep breaking her water fast with a 7-Eleven hotdog. Coach Netra breaks it all down for us.

Self-care? Is no smooth ride, but honey, we gotta choose our hard. We also dove deep into the nitty-gritty about PCOS, hormones, and whether we’re lazy or just outta balance. 

We wrapped it up with a rapid-fire round of Fact or Cap, on some of the biggest diet and exercise trends. Trust me, you do NOT wanna miss that part.

Hit play, listen up, and get your life together with us, girl!

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Hey Friend! Its me, Carla! Whew, this episode was a ride! Dex is officially a Cowboy Carter ticket holder (Beyhive, stand up!), and I’ve been auditing my top five closest people—we’ll see who makes it and who’s getting cut real quick. Our Woman of the Week is the one and only Joy Reid—because duh, she’s amazing and I really want her to win. And shameless plug, I’d LOVE to work with her!!!

Meanwhile, Dex, who was supposed to be focused on creating this episodes outline, went down a whole Neyo rabbit hole (thank you, Shaderoom), and now we’re deep-diving into polyamory, parenting, and when to introduce your kids to a new partner—especially in non-traditional relationships. Let’s just say, opinions were flying.

And THEN, we got into a listener letter from "Caught Up in the DM"—sis has been flirting in the Instagram DMs for months, but instead of a date, she got a sexting buddy. Should she shoot her shot, or is this man just here for the content? You already know we had thoughts on this one.

Hit play and let’s get into it! 🎧🔥

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In this episode of So What Now, hosts Carla and Dex dive into a thought-provoking discussion on parenting. They explore whether "gentle parenting" methods are truly benefiting children or inadvertently preventing them from learning valuable life lessons. Reflecting on their own upbringings, they share how their experiences with discipline and independence shaped their views. The conversation shifts gears as they unpack the evolution of "girl code." Carla and Dex examine whether the rules of girl code change as we get older. Would you end a 20 year friendship over a man? The fun escalates as they play a rapid-fire round of girl code questions, bringing plenty of laughs and hilarious moments. Tune in for an insightful, yet light-hearted, look at modern parenting and friendship dynamics!

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In this episode Carla and Dex dive into the controversial topic of maternal regret. Some women openly admit to regretting having children—are they just being brutally honest, or is this a sign of deeper societal pressure? Carla and Dex unpack the complex feelings surrounding motherhood and why it’s such a triggering subject. Shifting gears, Carla and Dex tackle the question: Are women actually the problem in relationships? The conversation takes a hilarious turn when they play a green and red flag game to figure out if they’re toxic. Spoiler alert: Dex discovers she might just be a walking red flag—who knew? Tune in for laughs, real talk, and some surprising self-revelations about women, relationships, and motherhood.

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In this week’s episode of So What Now, Carla and Dex dive into the tricky topic of whether it’s ever okay to air intimate details of past relationships, discussing the drama surrounding Royce Reed and Dwight Howard’s public feud.

The love theme continues with a deep dive into iconic black love stories from classic films. Carla and Dex go head-to-head over Love and Basketball. While Carla believes it’s one of the greatest love stories, Dex argues that Monica might’ve “settled” for her man. The conversation also touches on other beloved films like Poetic Justice and Boomerang, exploring the highs and lows of love and the lessons we take from them.

To wrap things up, they bring some much-needed levity with a feel-good of the week: Reality TV. In a world full of stress, there’s nothing like escaping into the absurd drama of the rich and famous. From ridiculous fights to jaw-dropping moments, we are reminded to laugh at the unseriousness of it all.

Tune in for laughs, heated debates, and of course, a little dose of reality!

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It’s officially the month of LOVE, and in this episode Carla and Dex dive into some most infamous love stories—from the drama-filled relationship of Kirk and Rasheda to Cleopatra and Marc Anthony’s empire-shattering romance. They explore what happens when love becomes larger than life and, in some cases, leads to downfall.

But it’s not all about toxic love flames! With Valentine’s Day approaching, the duo discusses how to romanticize your own life, especially when it feels like everyone else is celebrating a relationship. Carla and Dex share why it’s important to cultivate your own sense of joy, adventure, and self-love, and not wait for a partner to check off those life experiences.

Plus, to set the mood for the season, they’ve curated a special Valentine’s Day playlist. Each of them shares 5 songs that best capture the essence of love and relationships. Whether you're single or taken, these tracks will have you feeling all the love!

Tune in for a mix of history, self-love advice, and some seriously good tunes.

SWN Valentine's Day Playlist

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In this episode Carla and Dex dive deep into the evolving landscape of modern relationships and what it really means to partner up in today’s world. They unpack the idea of non-traditional relationships, questioning whether the paths they once thought they wanted are actually the ones that align with their true desires. Is Sheryl Lee Ralph’s unconventional situation with her husband a model of modern love, or is it just plain weird?

Dex reveals her unique perspective on love and relationships. Meanwhile, Carla shares an update on her 2025 commitment to get back into the dating scene, from China to the Bahamas, is it all the same? 

Is modern dating as exciting or are we all just going through the motions? Tune in for a candid, funny, and thought-provoking discussion about what we really want out of our relationships, and whether what’s traditional is still the best option.

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In this week’s episode Carla and Dex to catch you up on all the current events. We kick things off with Beyoncé’s surprising move to cancel her highly anticipated announcement, leaving fans buzzing. Plus, we reflect on recent actions from political leaders and the messages they’re sending.

The conversation heats up as we discuss the devastating LA fires and how natural disasters continue to disproportionately impact marginalized communities. Carla makes a surprising confession about her recycling habits (or lack thereof), sparking a meaningful discussion on environmental responsibility.

And finally, the ultimate question: is it ever appropriate to call your ex-wife "the baby momma"? Tune in for laughter, honest takes, and a little self-reflection as we tackle life’s messy and meaningful moments.

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