This week's episode is a conversation with artist Derick Melander. He's a sculptor who works with secondhand clothing to create clothing sculptures that explore the intersection between global consumerism and the intimate relationship we have with what we wear. My dear friend Sacha Jones has known Derick for years through being core members of their Record Club, which started in the late nineties as a place to share music with friends and friends-of-friends.

We begin by setting up how we met at a record club on Sacha's roof in the East Village, and the conversation goes on to cover his work, creative habits, navigating change, and much more. We talk about  music nostalgia, clothing, textiles, sharing clothing, consumerism, leaving traces, art school, dream work, friendship, family, relationships, connection, socializing and the power of the neighborhood.

Show notes:

- Find Derick on the Web | Instagram

- Heidi Baker's brand Ozma and her episode on the podcast

- The Fresh Air episode with Kirsten Dunst I mention

- My posts about Sister Corita Kent and her Rules for Students and Teachers

- There are a couple of spots open in my one-on-one creative consulting! If you want to work with me, learn more here and book a free session with me to see if it's a correct fit 

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