Today Mark is talking to Steven Kotler, prolific author and expert on the state of flow. Among his many books, he is the co-author of Stealing Fire and his most recent book is The Art of Impossible: A Peak Performance Primer, just released yesterday.

He is also one of the co-founders of the Flow Genome Project and the founder of the Flow Research Collective.

Hear how: Flow is the optimal state of consciousness-six core characteristics emerge for us to feel and perform our best

There is early-stage passion and late-stage passion-your passion and purpose are earned over time

The time of crisis is the time for you to double-down on your primary flow activity

Listen in for a better understanding of how you can unlock your flow and live in an optimal experience during these VUCA times.