We all have something in our lives that seems to be taking it's sweet time to arrive or happen. What are you waiting for? You could be waiting for any number of things, but on this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, Petra explores what is to be found within the time of "not yet."

Petra is joined first by Matt Renata, a youth worker and tauira (student) of indigenous theology. Matt shares part of his and his wife Rachel's six year journey towards pregnancy and some of the lessons he has learnt along the way.

Then, Grace McArthur joins Petra live in studio! Long-time listeners might remember that the last time this happened was back when Sunday Sanctuary was on Today FM. The wait was worthwhile, though, as Grace comes armed with some wisdom from Brené Brown's Atlas of the Heart about how to wait well.

Strahan Coleman is Petra's final guest on this episode. As someone who has lived with chronic health issues for the last 10 years, Strahan knows a thing or two about waiting. He also makes some interesting observations about the role of artists in times when it feels like the world is falling apart.

Thank you for hanging with us during our short break. We appreciate you listening and we hope this episode was worth the wait!

Awe

The Awe piece in this episode comes from TikTok user DogDogCatCatNoodle.

Sacred texts

• Scene from Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. Watch it here.
• Roll Back Your Clocks by Buck Meek. Listen to the song on YouTube.