Date: June 10th, 2015

By the time she was 23, Hazel Findlay had made a name for herself as the first woman to send E9 (basically 5.13d but with death fall potential). The British phenom can been seen in videos doing sketchy climbing way above her bolt or gear with seemingly no fear. She started climbing at the age of 7 with her dad, quickly moved up the ranks as a comp climber, and then eventually followed her heart to outdoor climbing, where she's now traveled the globe (Morocco, United States, Australia, to name a few) to climb in all different styles.

I wanted to ask her about how she trains, but she told me right off the bat that she doesn't train ;) So this interview is mostly about her mental game, how she's planning to help other climbers with their own confidence, and we talk about her recent shoulder surgery.

• How she stays present and keeps a positive attitude on challenging climbs

• Hazel Findlay's website: HazelFindlayClimbing.com

• Check out the new Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.

• Link to the TrainingBeta Podcast on iTunes is HERE.