The CIRS Group Podcast

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can sometimes be “followed” or accompanied by co-infections. Today, we are diving into one of the most convoluted and confusing potential avenues CIRS patients might need to address: Tick-borne illnesses, of which there are many and not just Lyme disease! We are honored to have the leading expert in tick-borne illnesses with us today to help break it down: Dr. Peg DeTulio, who has decades of experience with 1000s of patients. Did you know it’s possible 20-50% of people with CIRS are also struggling with a tick-borne illness? If your healing journey has stalled, this may be a rabbit hole worth investigating. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

3:00 Tick-Borne illnesses vs Lyme

4:55 Symptoms of tick-borne illness

6:28 For CIRS patients: treat mold before you address tick-borne

9:38 Red flag: Improvements but some symptoms remain

11:20 Western Blot test after CIRS is treated

12:42 C3a and tick borne illness

14:36 Testing process for tick-borne illnesses

19:05 Night Sweats that do not resolve

20:15 Air hunger or sighing at rest

21:08 Using an herb before testing to wake up the illness

22:28 Endemic areas and other risk factors

27:36 How common is tick-borne illness within the CIRS community

28:33 Can GENIE or NeuroQuant rule out Lyme or tick-borne illness

31:58 How treatable are tick-borne illnesses?

35:42 The benefits of treating slowly and carefully

40:30 How to spread awareness of tick-borne illness

HELPFUL LINKS:

Dr. Peg Detulio’s website: https://regenixhealing.com/

Dr. Peg’s interview with Judy Cho: https://youtu.be/bjc2twvHGFs?si=9aJyIVGHmUp8Zj2r

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness, so we understand you probably have lots of questions! This week, we had a LIVE AMA (ask us anything!) all about CIRS. We got some great questions, spanning everything from binders to remediation, from trigeminal neuralgia to spondyloarthropathy (say those illnesses three times fast). We hope you get a lot out of this one, and we look forward to the next! For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:18 Intro to Jacie, Barbara, and The CIRS Group

3:30 What is CIRS?

5:49 What is the Shoemaker Protocol?

7:50 Healing from CIRS vs Maintenance afterward

11:44 Symptoms of CIRS

13:33 How to get diagnosed with CIRS

15:20 The Archetypes of CIRS Patients

18:07 What to do while you wait to see a doctor

19:16 Improvements in symptoms

20:58 What are the best binders to take?

23:52 VIP expectations

27:14 Ice-pick pains as a symptom, and nerve function

29:25 How to wash clothing, and washing machine tip

32:32 Genetic Haplotypes for CIRS

33:48 Is Colesevelam the same as Welchol? Yes.

33:57 The dangers of basements for mold

35:05 How to test your house for mold

36:32 Best way of eating, or diet, for CIRS

38:00 Applesauce as a vehicle for taking CSM

38:58 VCS test pass vs fail to determine CIRS

41:07 How to prepare for remediation

45:25 The importance of following the protocol in order

48:08 CIRS and Long COVID

50:02 Visual disturbances and CIRS

51:38 MMP9 and TGFb1 bloodmarkers

52:52 Bloodwork test collection

54:19 MMP9 high, TGFb1 low and what that could mean

55:20 Histamine supports

56:21 MSH

58:00 Outro

HELPFUL LINKS:

Hoffman Center link for more info on CIRS: https://www.drbrucehoffman.com/post/chronic-inflammatory-response-syndrome

GENIE test info: https://www.progenedx.com/faqs

HERTSMI-2 test for mold only: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/hertsmi-2/?v=3e8d115eb4b3

VCS test on SurvivingMold.com: https://www.survivingmold.com/store/online-vcs-screening

Endotoxin only test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/e-endotoxin/?v=3e8d115eb4b3

Actino test for buildings: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/actino-test/?v=3e8d115eb4b3

Actino test for skin: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/actino-skin/?v=3e8d115eb4b3

All three bundle: HERTSMI-2, Endos, and Actinos test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=3e8d115eb4b3

SurvivingMold.com article on Long COVID: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/dr.-shoemaker-essays/new-research-article

Our podcast episode on COVID and CIRS: https://youtu.be/lBQ0xi1tHLo?si=FY4-Jl1BI86IXPzB

FLCCC Alliance resource on treating Long COVID:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/treatment-protocols/

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/FLCCC-Long-COVID-Protocol-Summary-12-11-23.pdf

https://covid19criticalcare.com/protocol/i-recover-post-vaccine-treatment/

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/I-RECOVER-Post-Vaccine-2024-03-01.pdf

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

In order to heal from CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, you must be in a clean living environment, free from an abundance of mold and harmful bacteria. Cleaning and properly remediating homes to the standard required for CIRS patients is tricky - but thankfully there are experts like Michael Schrantz, an Indoor Environmental Professional, who can help you determine the best path towards living in a clean environment. Check out the links below to listen to his podcast and hire him to help you with your home. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

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HELPFUL LINKS:

Work with Michael: https://environmentalanalytics.net/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can be difficult to explain and difficult to treat, mostly because of the steps and how different everyone’s symptoms can look. The CIRS Project is a brand new non-profit that hopes to change all of that. They are focusing on making the message of CIRS clearer and more concise so less people are overwhelmed when they get diagnosed or when they try to explain it to loved ones. Beyond that, they are hoping to build clean housing that can be offered to underprivileged people needing to get out of exposure. We absolutely love their mission and cannot wait to see their vision come to life. Be sure to check them out at https://www.thecirsproject.org/ and for more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

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The CIRS Group:

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Guests today:

Dr. Lauren Sparks, DNP, CNP, APRN, PMHNP-BC, CTP, MA, RN

Therapist Brenda Stewart, LMHC, NCC, CTH

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can take a toll on the mental health of the patient, just as much and sometimes more so than physically. No one knows this better than our guests today: Dr. Lauren Sparks, a Shoemaker Certified Doctor of Nursing Practice, and Brenda Stewart, a Licensed Mental Health Counselor and trauma specialist. Together they are offering a much needed extra layer of support for CIRS patients that are experiencing PTSD or other trauma-like responses due to CIRS and other events in their lives: group therapy. Today, they’ll explain why trauma plays such a big role in so many CIRS patients’ lives and what can be done to heal and move past it. This is not medical advice - please consult your physician or provider for what might be best for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

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HELPFUL LINKS:

Dr. Sparks’ practice’s website with information about their new group therapy options: https://www.untamediona.com/therapy

The CIRS Group:

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness that we strive to demystify for you here, every week on The CIRS Group Podcast. This week we will be concluding our fun CIRSx 2024 recap series - and we’ve saved some of the heaviest talks for last! Today we’re covering Histamine/MAST cell reactivity, the dangers of consuming seed oils, Hyperbaric Oxygen Chamber Therapy, and ADH/Osmolality issues (peeing too much!). We heard some great talks by Dr. Louise Carder, Dr. McMahon, and more - so check out today’s episode to learn our big takeaways from these great talks. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:12 Dr. Louise Carder’s talk on Histamines

3:26 Important takeaways about histamines

4:35 Things you can do if you struggle with histamines

6:00 Histamine support can cause better MSH levels

7:02 Dr. Knobbe’s Seed Oils talk

9:20 Dr. Jim Ryan’s talk about platelets

11:30 Platelets activate differently with CIRS

12:42 Dr. Meyers’ talk on Hyperbaric Chamber Treatment

15:20 Takeaways from this talk: MARCoNs, mitochondrial function, inflammatory markers

16:10 Pressure matters: what Dr. Meyers recommends

18:22 Dr. McMahon’s talk on ADH: Pee all that you can pee

19:25 How to tell if you’re peeing too much

21:50 Kids and bed-wetting

22:39 How to correct ADH/Osmolality issues

24:03 Why The CIRS Group is great (no, really!)

HELPFUL LINKS:

Dr. Louise Carder’s website: https://www.louisecarder.com/

Dr. Chris Knobbe’s book, The Ancestral Diet Revolution: How Vegetable Oils and Processed Foods Destroy Our Health - and How to Recover! https://a.co/d/79KIEEY

Dr. Jim Ryan’s website: https://www.progenedx.com/

Dr. Ryan Meyers’ clinic website: https://www.themovement.clinic/

Dr. Ryan Meyers’ instagram: https://www.instagram.com/docryanmeyers/

US Hyberbarics: https://www.ushyperbarics.co/

Dr. McMahon’s website: https://scottmcmahon.doctor/

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness that we strive to demystify for you here, every week on The CIRS Group Podcast. This week we will be continuing our fun CIRSx 2024 recap series - recapping the talks on breathwork, CIRS coaching, and litigation. Yes, you might be able to sue for damage done to your health and your home if someone is responsible for your mold problem! Let’s dive in. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:40 Breathwork talk by Morgan Glodowski

3:04 Research backed benefits of breathwork

5:42 Similarities to Wim Hof

6:44 Creating Healing Momentum by Jenny Johnson and Jane Prescot

7:38 Why you might want a CIRS Coach

9:50 Borrow a non-CIRS brain

12:15 Hope is the biggest correlation to healing

12:54 Resources for CIRS Coaches

13:38 Kristina Baehr, Esq. talk on Litigating Mold

16:05 Suing over mold will help get CIRS recognized

17:00 Questions to ask yourself to determine if you have a case

21:07 Bob McKee, Esq. talk on Raising the Bar

23:05 What to do when insurance denies your claim

23:47 Statute of Limitations

24:45 Proof of toxicity requires dose and duration

26:05 Convince the jury that this could happen to them

27:25 Who is being sued? And should you test your house?

HELPFUL LINKS:

“Sudarshan Kriya Breathwork”

Morgan Glodowski’s instagram: https://www.instagram.com/morgan.glodowski/

Jenny Johnson’s website: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/

Jane Prescot’s website: https://getmymoldylifeback.com/

Christian Navarro-Torres, PhD’s group: https://www.cirslab.com/home

Judy Cho’s group options: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/groups

Find Proficiency Partners (usually coaches) on Surviving Mold’s website: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomates

CIRSx Institute Courses (including coaching): https://institute.cirsx.com/p/courses

SurvivingMold’s Proficiency Partner certification: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/community/online-proficiency-partners-course

Attorney Kristina Baehr’s website: https://www.well.law/

Previous episode about proper testing: https://youtu.be/bJt6PqFYvPA

Attorney Bob McKee’s website: https://themckeelawgroup.com/

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated chronic illness that can affect a quarter of the population if they get exposed to biotoxins. Today, we continue our CIRSx conference recap with some medical talks by Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, Dr. Peg DiTulio, Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, and Ming Dooley L.Ac. For those of you who have been diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, or CFS, be sure to watch until the end for some extra interesting research aimed at your condition (which is most likely actually CIRS). For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:39 Dr. Shoemaker’s talk: passing the baton

3:22 Proper screening: history of exposure

6:03 Tools to show inflammation and exposure

9:00 Keep researching, keep publishing

10:06 Dr. Peg DiTulio and Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres: MSH talk

10:55 Histamine issues are highly underrated in treatment

11:38 MARCoNs matter to raise MSH

12:18 GENIE should include histamines

12:40 As MMP9 goes down, MSH goes up

13:33 Treating Thyroid gets better MSH outcomes

13:49 COVID and MSH

15:05 If you are plateauing consider co-infections

16:04 Ming Dooley: Comparing Shoemaker research with Chronic Fatigue

18:48 EMDR showed promise in one patient with CFS

20:00 Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is CIRS

21:50 17 years to get medical research into the mainstream

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS:

SAIIE: Sequential Activation of Innate Immune Elements, available for purchase on SurvivingMold.com: https://www.survivingmold.com/store/presentations/saiie-a-health-index-for-people-re-exposed-to-water-damaged-buildings

Dr. Shoemaker’s website: https://www.survivingmold.com/

Dr. Peg DiTulio’s website: https://regenixhealing.com/

Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres’ website: https://www.cirslab.com/

Ming Dooley is a licensed acupuncturist, who works with her husband, an MD, and his website is: https://www.drdooley.net/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness with a clinically proven, peer reviewed treatment called the Shoemaker Protocol. Every year, doctors certified in the Shoemaker Protocol organize an information packed conference called CIRSx. Today, we are continuing our recap of CIRSx and covering three talks about indoor environment improvements you can do today in your own home to improve your air quality and start healing from CIRS. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

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The CIRS Group:

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness that can affect up to 25% of the population, thanks to genetics and environmental toxins. Today, we continue to recap CIRSx 2024, this time showing our Indoor Environmental Professionals some love! We had some fantastic talks by Michael Schrantz, Bill Weber, and Brandon Apple, plus Dr. Eric Dorninger and Dr. Jari Louhelainen and the topics covered include poop (or endotoxins), indoor air quality, indoor air testing, and the proper sequencing of remediation. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

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Endotoxin test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/e-endotoxin/?v=3e8d115eb4b3

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.