The CIRS Group Podcast

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The CIRS Group Podcast episodes

May 22, 2024 Ever been to a moldy conference? We have! Here's our CIRSx 2024 Recap
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated, multi-symptom, multi-system illness - so why wouldn’t there be an annual CIRSx conference for it?! We had a really great time at CIRSx this year, and this episode is our quick summary of all of it. We talked to lots of doctors, heard a ton of great talks, had a lot of fun and are so happy to be part of this wonderful community. We will do more in-depth, helpful-tip-packed episodes in the next few weeks, but for now, we wanted to give you guys the highlight reel from our weekend in Frisco, Texas. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:10 Travel considerations for those with CIRS
2:10 Hotel moldy vibes
4:10 The DFW airport is not OK
5:21 The Proficiency Partner Program
8:15 Christian Navarro-Torres, PhD was recognized
10:57 Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker’s amazing speech
13:50 The impact of meeting members and listeners
16:21 Exciting interviews coming soon
19:57 Why you shouldn’t have FOMO

The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS:
The CIRSx website: https://www.cirsx.com/
Follow Christian on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cirslab
Sign up for Christian’s research-oriented membership: https://www.cirslab.com/
Michael Schrantz’ website: https://environmentalanalytics.net/
Dr. Peg DiTulio’s website:https://regenixhealing.com/meet-the-staff
Amber (and Atlas, the mold sniffing dog) on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_mold_free_yogi/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
24 min
May 15, 2024 Got Tinnitus? You might have CIRS! Healing inflammation from mold illness can silence the noise
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a multi-system, multi-symptom illness that affects many (if not all) of the systems of the body, including the ears, aka your Vestibular System. We are very lucky that Jacie has worked in audiology for many years and is now able to share her wisdom and clinical experience with us to help us understand the paths to heal from tinnitus, hearing loss, balance, and vertigo issues, and the inflammation (or injury) at the root of those problems. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:40 Jacie’s background in Audiology
2:15 Why ears and eyes are so sensitive and reactive
4:15 What is Tinnitus?
6:27 Tinnitus caused by bent and broken hair
8:41 The vestibular system, vertigo, the spins
10:00 Meniere’s Disease - testing methods
10:46 Inflammation is the root cause
11:32 Deplaning Syndrome and Epley Maneuvers
14:17 Hearing loss - the sooner you treat, the better your outcome
17:13 Ear and hearing maintenance/cleaning tips for everyone
19:30 Barbara’s embarrassing story

The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Follow Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Follow Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS:
Visual Contrast Sensitivity Test:
Article about Texas Roadhouse owner, Kent Taylor’s health struggles: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/03/22/979929592/texas-roadhouse-founder-kent-taylor-dies-after-struggle-with-post-covid-19-sympt
MindEar app: https://www.mindear.com/
Meniere’s info and testing procedures: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/menieres-disease/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20374916
Canalith Repositioning Procedure/Epley Maneuver info: https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/canalith-repositioning-procedure/about/pac-20393315
Fun/frustrating Maze Ball game referenced: https://a.co/d/6WIt3UZ
DMI Baby Nasal Aspirator, Ear Syringe, Clears Airway & Nasal Passages: https://a.co/d/d1KzgWj

Jacie is a 4+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment, which can be found at TheCIRSGroup.com
22 min
May 08, 2024 You're leaking! What to do to prevent mold or water damage when healing from CIRS
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that is most often triggered in patients from water damage. Today, we are going to dig into Jacie’s recent experience dealing with a leak in her home and how she mitigated the damage and came out OK on the other side. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:52 Jacie’s adventure with a leak in her apartment
5:02 What to do if you are a renter
6:50 What to do if you’re a homeowner
7:53 Get three bids for a project
9:24 The steps to take when you discover a leak
11:20 Air filters and fans
12:13 Probiotic spray and
14:40 Preventative measures
17:39 Testing afterwards
19:10 Community support
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS:
Michael Schrantz’ website to hire him as your IEP: https://environmentalanalytics.net/
Air Oasis, use code CIRSLAB for a discount (our friend’s discount code, not ours): https://www.airoasis.com/
HomeBiotic spray: https://homebiotic.com/
Under Sink Mat for Kitchen: https://a.co/d/9zS31k4
Leak Alarm:
Geevon 4 Pack Water Leak Detectors: https://a.co/d/gmH66Uv
Govee WiFi Water Sensor 3 Pack, Water Leak Detector: https://a.co/d/4b2S1Kb
Environmental testing Jacie referred to: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=7516fd43adaa

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
21 min
May 01, 2024 The power of your mind: Practicing mindfulness and its role in healing from CIRS
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness that can cause us to dissociate from our own bodies, as a way of self-protection. If you are far enough along with your healing, it can become important to rebuild that connection and tune in to what your body needs and feels, so that you can heal fully and completely. Today, we dive into this topic, covering some of the challenges of mindfulness as well as strategies and methods you may want to try. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
0:30 Why mindfulness is so difficult
2:25 The power our brains have over our healing
4:55 Limbic Retraining is an on-going practice
5:54 How to tell if you’re out of touch with your body
7:07 Practice: all you need to do is show up
8:13 The best method is the one you can stick to
9:12 Gratitudes
10:55 Play with the time of day
11:40 Journaling or Morning Pages
13:01 Meditation, choosing identities
14:26 ADHD struggles with mindfulness
15:56 Yoga
17:46 Walking
19:51 How to get started with Mindfulness
20:47 Tracking symptoms
23:12 Practice, not perfect
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS:
Limbic Retraining episode: https://youtu.be/tTzgIsdYovA?si=S4eS_dytKrK2Yj3r
The Joy Plan book: https://a.co/d/gx82x4B
The Artist’s Way book: https://a.co/d/1u2x3lo
CIRS Meditation practice with Melanie: https://www.instagram.com/meditation4cirs/
Great research on why ADHD makes mindfulness difficult (and how to overcome): https://youtu.be/RFJBwdpSPmU?si=vV__3XUxNc9iYVdP
Yoga with Adriene: https://www.youtube.com/@yogawithadriene

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
26 min
April 24, 2024 Timing your pills! When to take binders, other meds, and supplements on the Shoemaker Protocol
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness and the only clinically proven path to healing is through the Shoemaker Protocol. Today, we are tackling the tricky topic of medication and supplement timing. Many CIRS patients, ourselves included, struggle with when to take our binders, when to eat, and when it’s safe to take other meds, so we thought this would be a good topic to dig into. As always, none of this is medical advice. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
0:48 Supplements and Binder timing can feel overwhelming at first
1:48 Why the binders are so tricky
2:42 Welchol vs CSM and eating fat afterwards
4:40 Thyroid medication and other supplements
5:40 Jacie’s medication/supplement schedule
7:02 Barbara’s medication/supplement schedule
9:45 There are shades of gray - just do your best
11:35 Strategies to implement: timers, reminders, alarms, sticky notes
13:19 Writing meds out like a To Do list
14:10 Phosphatidylcholine tips (and Barbara’s face)
16:04 CSM tips
18:40 Outro
HELPFUL LINKS:
Pill organizer: https://a.co/d/4JbZgQk
Frother/electric whisk for CSM: https://a.co/d/0YWS0jw
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
20 min
April 17, 2024 Naturopath Dr. Eric Dorninger on the dangers of CIRS and hope for healing - Come see us at CIRSx!
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness caused by mold and other biotoxins that affects 24% of the population and only a handful of doctors even know about it. We are so excited to have one of the greats on today: Dr. Eric Dorninger. Dr. D is a CIRS patient himself - he will share more about his and his family’s health struggles, the reasons he fights for his patients’ health, and the magic of healing from CIRS so we can be happy, healthy, kick ass individuals. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:18 Dr. Eric Dorninger’s backstory
8:35 CIRSx and the Holy Trinity of CIRS Healing
9:18 BlueSkyCBD for mood disorders
10:10 Screening for CIRS
13:04 Story of patient healing from CIRS
14:59 Why your doctor’s staff is so important
20:50 What it takes to work with CIRS patients
23:41 Tinnitus in CIRS patients
24:54 The problem with naming diseases
26:30 Dr. D’s podcast The Vitality Hour
29:44 Patient Aaron Pettigrew’s CIRS story
32:39 CIRSx and the importance of environment professionals
37:00 CIRS patients becoming CIRS practitioners
39:37 What the CIRS community should do to spread awareness
41:57 The problem with urinary mycotoxin tests and azoles
44:20 Endotoxin nuggets of wisdom
49:09 Outro and CIRSx excitement

HELPFUL LINKS:
Come to CIRSx! https://www.cirsx.com/
Dr. Dorninger’s practice website: https://drdorninger.com/
Dr. Dorninger on AANP website: https://naturopathic.org/member/drdorninger
BlueSkyCBD: https://www.bluesky-cbd.com/
Dr. D’s podcast The Vitality Hour: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwmPARlXz7FIag_6NPS_uBg
Vitality Hour on tolerating binders: https://youtu.be/omQL_mZrGRM?si=5DtyoM8E4i9I4qfU
Take the CIRSx Courses: https://institute.cirsx.com/
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
53 min
April 10, 2024 Can Nicotine actually be GOOD for you? Exploring nicotine and it's potential uses in CIRS treatment
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that occurs in 25% of the population that gets exposed to environmental toxins like mold, red tide, spider or tick bites, and even some vaccines and viruses. Today, we have a special return guest Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, and we are going off script, away from the clinically proven path for healing from CIRS with the Shoemaker Protocol: Exploring the potential for good that comes in the form of pure Nicotine. This may be a controversial topic - but as always, this is not medical advice! We are exploring the possibilities for treatment in the future and hopefully opening the conversation around alternative methods to help the body recover from CIRS. More research is needed, but it’s fun to play “what if.” For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:24 What is Nicotine?
3:00 Overlap between Nicotine and VIP
4:35 Immunomodulation by both Nicotine and VIP
6:03 Nicotine can stimulate VIP receptors
6:51 Cancer risk with Nicotine use
8:30 Smoking/Vaping vs taking Nicotine in pure form
10:05 Long COVID symptom resolution with Nicotine
15:12 Jacie’s experience with Nicotine
17:25 Christian’s experience with Nicotine
22:13 Barbara’s experience with Nicotine
24:32 Nicotine recommendations: NicNac
26:32 Nicotine dosage
28:13 Arginine supplementation with Nicotine
30:40 Cravings and withdrawal concerns
32:40 Potential in the future for CIRS patients
37:15 Outro

Follow Christian!
https://www.instagram.com/cirslab
Sign up for the CIRSLab newsletter: https://us12.list-manage.com/contact-form?u=81c43ceaa0a2d5b619dcbd6cf&form_id=7c935313230b949627a90f75fcf161e3

The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS:
VIP Spray episode: https://youtu.be/A3YXtkYMnL0?si=mSSC-nwWrYTjFcQ6
NicNac, use Christian’s discount code CIRSLAB: https://www.nicnac.com/
Come to CIRSx: https://www.cirsx.com/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
39 min
April 03, 2024 What if you can't tolerate the binders?! Detoxing from CIRS: How to mitigate side effects
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complex chronic illness that requires a multi-step treatment protocol in order to heal. Today, we dive into taking binders - why take them, what kind to take, why they might cause side effects and what to do to mitigate those side effects. This is not medical advice, always consult your Shoemaker certified practitioner before making changes to your treatment plan. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:22 The Intensification Monster
2:03 What to expect when starting binders
3:58 Why the binders might hurt at first
6:27 Why binder timing matters
8:35 Various binder options: CSM, welchol, okra/beet
11:22 Being in exposure may cause binder side effects
14:58 Low dose VIP Spray
15:26 Lipid Replacement adjustment
15:53 MARCoNs
17:56 Histamine response / MCAS
19:09 Why a Shoemaker certified practitioner is important
HELPFUL LINKS:
Environment testing episode: https://youtu.be/CK0rPJE5Gcs?si=eGQrUHaTKzKEAtmD
GENIE test episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=hB35VTi1jBX3pkZQ
MARCoNs test episode: https://youtu.be/dWJaGdpQKrA?si=mcB8XfJC8cRyKgnz&t=469
Barbara’s MARCoNs testing video: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrjNhakttIk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Histamine/MCAS episode: https://youtu.be/mKoTPC4tBpQ?si=MZ6RB1BFbLpbKy1R&t=1140
Find a Shoemaker Certified Practitioner: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/list-of-certified-practitioners
or a Certified Proficiency Partner: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomates
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
22 min
March 27, 2024 Can peptides reverse brain atrophy? Vasoactive Intestinal Peptides can! VIP Spray for CIRS
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that affects a quarter of the population (they just might not know it yet). Today, we tackle the very last step of the only clinically proven path to healing CIRS, Shoemaker Protocol, which is Vasoactive Intestinal Peptides, or VIP Spray. VIP Spray is amazing, in that it helps the brain return to normal after inflammation and atrophy caused by CIRS. We dig into the details on how it works, when to use it, and what to expect when using it. This is not medical advice, talk to your doctor to figure out what’s right for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:00 The purpose of VIP Spray within the Shoemaker Protocol
2:17 What is VIP or Vasoactive Intestinal Peptide
2:28 VIP blood test
4:00 Why get a NeuroQuant before and after VIP Spray
5:18 The cost of VIP Spray
6:00 Titration and administration of VIP Spray
7:40 Considerations for storing VIP Spray
8:20 Cheaper option for VIP Spray
8:58 The potential risks of VIP Spray
10:55 Jacie’s experience with VIP Spray
13:00 Using VIP to better tolerate the binders
15:20 Barbara’s VIP Spray

HELPFUL LINKS:
Genie test episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=WL_s_yXIpEh_f4uj
NeuroQuant episode: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-c?si=YkTgroEapsSFWSGw
Cheaper option to purchase VIP Spray (to mix yourself): https://www.montroserx.com/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
18 min
March 13, 2024 Are you healing from CIRS on easy mode, or are you making it harder on yourself?
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness with a complex treatment plan. It can be difficult to attain the level of perfection your doctor may require for you to heal. Today we tackle ways to not let perfect be the enemy of good, and hopefully give you some ideas to “still live your life” while you’re trying to heal. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:03 Perfect vs real life
2:15 Location: dry vs humid climates
6:58 Cleaning: Minimalism vs Maximalism
10:40 Diet: Carnivore vs Standard American diet
12:10 Efficiency of treatment through testing

HELPFUL LINKS:
Episode on best way of eating with CIRS: https://youtu.be/jln8kKR5PiE
Episode on environment testing: https://youtu.be/CK0rPJE5Gcs

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
18 min

About The CIRS Group Podcast

From the publisher's feed

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can happen to 25% of the population and is usually triggered by a biotoxin in the environment, like mold, red tide, lyme (tick bite), and even some medical interventions. Those with CIRS are susceptible to these toxins and cannot clear them on their own. Thankfully, treatment is possible, but given that people suffering with CIRS have difficulty processing new information, we created The CIRS Group and now, this podcast, to help people better understand and identify this treatable illness.