The CIRS Group Podcast

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The CIRS Group Podcast episodes

December 20, 2023 If your husband doesn’t believe it and friends are questioning it: How to help them understand CIRS
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness, and it can be hard to get your family and friends on board with it. Today we’re tackling how to deal with both unsupportive and supportive relationships, and what that can mean for your healing. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:59 Developing empathy from this illness
3:10 Non-supportive relationships
3:59 Barbara’s story of building emotional walls
7:44 Establishing boundaries - why and how
13:00 Toxic Positivity
15:15 Benefits of couples therapy
21:00 Getting that support from The CIRS Group

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
24 min
December 06, 2023 Why you need to test your MSH, MMP9, VEGF & more! Blood Markers to diagnose CIRS - TheCIRSGroup.com
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness. Thankfully, there are specific blood markers you can test to confirm whether or not you are suffering from this illness. Today, we’re going to take you through each of these blood markers and what they mean when they’re out of range. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
0:33 Why these blood markers matter
2:15 MMP9
4:32 VEGF
8:03 TGF-b1
10:49 MSH
17:03 C4A and C3A
18:30 Tips about getting your blood drawn

Helpful Links:
Hoffman Center resource for what the blood markers mean, how it manifests in your body and proper treatment: https://hoffmancentre.com/chronic-inflammatory-response-syndrome-cirs-evaluation-and-treatment/
Biotoxin Pathway: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cz4B3gKpVIn/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
21 min
November 29, 2023 Can your genes tell you why you’re sick? They sure can! The GENIE test EXPLAINED - TheCIRSGroup.com
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness. Thankfully, the folks at ProgeneDX have created an in-depth and new test to take that can actually measure the up and down regulation of your genes as a result of CIRS, and even identifies the biotoxins responsible for the inflammation and symptoms you’re experiencing. This can be a great tool for people to get specific about their type of exposure and better tailor their treatment plan. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
2:50 The purpose of the GENIE test and when to do it
5:10 How much does the GENIE cost
6:26 The GENIE test is a snapshot in time
7:41 How the GENIE can help you focus your remediation efforts
8:30 Concerns around the GENIE test interpretation
11:10 GENIE test vs NeuroQuant
12:08 Why Barbara got the GENIE test
13:13 How to get the GENIE test
19:48 Jacie’s great summary of all the stuff Barbara said
22:12 Extra tips for dealing with this test

Info on the GENIE test: https://www.progenedx.com/
Dry Ice locator: https://dryicedirectory.com/
(but I bet most big chain grocery stores have them, just call ahead or stop by and ask)
Barbara’s reel for getting the GENIE test done: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy6Blq1xOmF/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
25 min
November 15, 2023 Jacie and Barbara CIRS updates! Setbacks and healing with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is something both Barbara and Jacie have been struggling with for over a year. Since their diagnoses in April of 2022, a lot has happened! Barbara will be sharing her triumphs and setbacks as she now explores endotoxin elimination as the missing piece to healing her gut. Jacie talks about resolving her autoimmune flares, re-exposure while traveling, and how she has reached the final step of the protocol, VIP spray. Spoiler alert: she has already experienced complete symptom resolution with the Shoemaker Protocol! We’re excited to share this example of proof that the protocol works. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:00 Barbara’s CIRS health backstory

2:09 GI issues and MARCoNs persisted, MSH wasn’t high enough

3:25 New practitioner, taking the GENIE test

4:58 Endotoxins vs other biotoxins

6:05 Why get the GENIE test, and how to clean for Endos

7:09 Barbara’s plan

7:20 Las Vegas is not okay PSA

9:05 Barbara’s update wrap up

9:57 Why Barbara is delaying VIP spray

11:45 Jacie’s takeaway from Barbara’s health journey

12:45 Jacie’s CIRS health backstory

13:40 Jacie’s biggest lever for healing - removing exposure

15:09 Autoimmune flare: Uveitis, plus travel

16:48 Long COVID or vax injury, spike protein damage protocol

17:59 Jacie’s experience with VIP spray (Vasoactive Intestinal Peptide)

19:00 Re-exposure, switching providers, and next steps

21:10 Why NueroQuant may help with VIP treatment

21:34 Resiliency and symptom resolution even before VIP

22:16 Joint and eye damage slowly reversing

25:05 Jacie’s mental and physical state in 2022 vs now

26:13 Jacie’s takeaway: your body wants to heal

27:19 Genesis 50:20

Barbara’s first health update: https://youtu.be/EG5aovrSSYw

Jacie’s first health update: https://youtu.be/tHeNVVzRyTA

Info on the GENIE test: https://www.progenedx.com/

IEP that Barbara used: https://environmentalanalytics.net/

Spike Protein Damage Protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/I-RECOVER-Post-Vaccine-2023-07-24.pdf

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
29 min
November 08, 2023 Period cramps, PMS, PCOS - the extra fun aspect of CIRS in women and how to deal with it
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness of inflammation - and a lot of the symptoms of PMS, PMDD, periods, cramps, etc. are the result of inflammation too. When they get together at that time of the month, things can get rough. Today we wanted to take a closer look at why that is, and what you can do to deal with those symptoms better as you continue to heal. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

The period tracking app Jacie and Barbara both use, not an affiliate link: https://flo.health/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
13 min
November 01, 2023 THEY ARE WRONG! How to avoid wasting money on bad advice: CIRS treatment for mold illness
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is your body’s immune system going haywire over some biotoxins it’s not able to eliminate. This havoc can really damage your body - and unfortunately, peeing on a stick (or in a cup) is probably not going to help you chill out your immune system and heal all the downstream effects. We want to save you time and money by explaining why the bad advice out there for “mold illness” and “mold detoxing” is bad, and why other advice is good, so we hope you enjoy and learn from today’s episode. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
2:16 Mycotoxin Urine Analysis Tests
4:00 Test bloodmarkers instead
5:05 Jacie’s rant about what actually is going on with CIRS
7:47 Binders: charge matters
9:42 Removing yourself from exposure - cleaning matters
18:35 Even the doctors are still learning

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
22 min
October 26, 2023 The CIRS Group Fall 2023 Live Q&A Webinar
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
It’s that time again! Barbara and Jacie take your CIRS questions live! CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a multi-symptom, multi-system illness that can wreck havoc on your health. Today we are doing a live Q&A to let people ask us their most pressing questions about CIRS, CIRS treatment, management of symptoms, and anything moldy. We cover diet, brain scans, MCAS, POTS, GAPS, emotional trauma, Lyme, and more!
To join our online support community, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:52 Welcome to The CIRS Group Fall 2023 Webinar
1:25 What is The CIRS Group?
2:50 Why air samples are not sufficient for CIRS patients
4:40 Best way to time taking supplements and binders
7:00 When to take the VCS test
9:10 Treating Lyme or other exposures with CIRS treatment
11:15 Elhers Danlos Syndrome
12:00 MCAS or Mast Cell Activation Syndrome
15:33 NueroQuant and memory loss
18:22 How long it took Jacie and Barbara to feel better
21:53 Peripheral Neuropathy - why it happens and tips for management
24:30 Thyroid medications and binder timing
25:02 Cromolyn Sodium for MCAS
25:54 How to get a NeuroQuant MRI
27:05 International TCG members and resources
28:00 How to order a NeuroQuant
28:36 Psyllium husk vs okra and beet binders
29:35 What can you do now while waiting to start treatment
32:15 Taking okra or beet supplements in the meantime
33:17 POTS: Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome
34:37 Carbs and their potential role in managing CIRS
36:30 GAPS diet
37:38 Breaking the cycle: Pushing and Crashing
41:27 Benefits of processing emotional trauma
44:47 Advice managing co-infections and autoimmune
47:00 Working with Nutrition with Judy
51:38 Oxalate concerns
52:35 Concerns around colonoscopies

LINKS
Surviving Mold Indoor Environment Testing
https://www.survivingmold.com/docs/Inside_Indoor_Air_Quality.PDF
NeuroQuant info at Survivingmold.com:
https://www.survivingmold.com/resources-for-patients/diagnosis/neuroquant
International practitioners and resources:
https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/international-practitioners
Work with Nutrition with Judy: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
56 min
October 17, 2023 How to know if you have ADHD or CIRS? Or both? with special guest Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, often manifests as cognitive difficulties and decline - and those issues can feel a lot like ADD / ADHD. Many people who have CIRS may have symptoms that mimic ADHD, and some may actually have both. We wanted to dig into what those similarities and differences are, tips on symptom management and healing, and get a better idea of what’s going on in the brain with either of these conditions. We do hop around a lot in this episode - Barbara takes full responsibility for her ADHD taking us on a bit of a ride. :) For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
0:55 Christian’s intro and his upcoming workshops
2:40 How Barbara found out she had ADHD
3:33 What is ADHD?
7:43 Impulsivity in decision making and finances
8:20 Struggles with goals, prioritizing, and planning
8:50 Emotional dysregulation
9:02 Hyperfocus and lack of focus control and why
11:45 Why you may have problems with emotions
12:42 Quick definition of comorbidities
14:04 How ADHD and CIRS overlap
15:40 What is Working Memory?
17:34 How CIRS may exacerbate ADHD symptoms
18:40 Fun examples of how our brains are different
20:19 Research on ADHD and CIRS
21:25 Prevalence of ADHD and CIRS, and dangers of being undiagnosed
23:10 How healing from CIRS might reveal ADHD
24:20 What parts of the brain are affected
28:05 How ADHD and CIRS affect the brain
29:40 Balance and movement as ADHD treatment
32:57 The CIRS and ADHD overlap and what it might mean
34:17 How to get diagnosed for ADHD
35:05 Clinical vs subclinical ADHD
36:13 Is ADHD just CIRS?
38:30 How to live with ADHD
43:27 Possible thyroid dysfunction with ADHD
44:19 More tips for managing ADHD

Christian’s account CIRSlab on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cirslab/
Sign up for Christian’s CIRS newsletter: https://us12.list-manage.com/contact-form?u=81c43ceaa0a2d5b619dcbd6cf&form_id=7c935313230b949627a90f75fcf161e3
Recommended resources for ADHD:
TedxTalk Barbara referenced about life with ADHD: https://youtu.be/JiwZQNYlGQI?si=H2N7uUz1kB_ZgIh5
Online test to find out if you have ADHD (similar to the one Barbara took): https://add.org/adhd-test/
Actual questionnaire Barbara filled out with her psychiatrist: https://add.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/adhd-questionnaire-ASRS111.pdf
Delivered from Distraction book: https://a.co/d/8L9my3D
ADHD 2.0 book: https://a.co/d/fhnlQdJ
How To ADHD YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@HowtoADHD
Russell Barkley, PhD YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@russellbarkleyphd2023
TimeTimer: https://www.timetimer.com/pages/adhd

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
50 min
October 11, 2023 How do you stay safe from mold and other biotoxins? Become resilient, plan ahead, and use tools!
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
Can you live a normal life with CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, aka Mold Illness? Even a life that includes travel, spending time with family, visiting friends, and going out to eat? We think you can! But there are tools, tips, tricks, and things to consider - and we try to dig into as many as possible in this episode. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro
0:43 Healing for the first time vs re-exposure
2:15 Disclaimer: this is not medical advice
2:37 Making memories vs risking exposure
4:38 Develop your spidey senses after you heal
6:30 Shout out to Wild Pastures in Boulder, CO
7:50 Different symptoms can reappear with exposures
8:56 Re-exposure during the protocol is more painful than after
10:56 Travel tips with CIRS
12:10 Florida is not ok, and head buzzing is weird
14:13 We hope this helps you let go and enjoy yourself
15:15 CIRS doctors might hate us right now
16:08 The decision you make now can be temporary

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
18 min
October 04, 2023 Don’t do it alone! Major benefits from joining a community when healing from CIRS or chronic illness
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, aka Mold Illness, can be hard to deal with. This is true for any chronic or autoimmune based illness. But you don’t need to do it alone! Today we’re talking about the benefits of community: connection, safe space to speak freely, advice and suggestions, direction towards resources - so many things!
Over at the CIRS Group, we are planning on adding quite a bit of awesome this month:
- Not one, but TWO group calls per month
- A monthly live class + Q&A on an aspect of CIRS (recording and replay available to members only)
- Additional new content - extended interviews and more controversial topics not safe for YouTube or Instagram
We definitely think you should join us. That said, we’re not the only group in town - we talk about a couple of our favorites and encourage you to find the one that is right for you (or two, or three!). Helpful links below. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro
0:31 Loneliness as an indicator for health decline
1:23 The ease of communication with people who get it
4:00 Using others’ anecdotal stories for your own benefit
5:10 Finding hope in others’ stories of healing
6:22 The CIRS Group now offers classes
7:00 Other benefits: Questions, sharing wins, group calls, resources
7:54 Find a community that resonates with you, mix and match flavors
10:05 Nutrition with Judy, Judy Cho’s CIRS Support Group
13:38 Jenny Johnson’s CIRS Support Group
16:22 Some doctors have groups too
17:01 Let us know our ice cream flavors
Join Barbara and Jacie’s TheCIRSGroup.com support group:
https://www.thecirsgroup.com/
Join the NutritionwithJudy.com CIRS support group: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/nwj-client/cirs-group-support
Join Jenny Johnson’s CIRS Healing Collective support group:
https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/cirs-healing-collective
Or Jenny's 12 week program:
https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/equipped-to-overcome-cirs
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
19 min

About The CIRS Group Podcast

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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can happen to 25% of the population and is usually triggered by a biotoxin in the environment, like mold, red tide, lyme (tick bite), and even some medical interventions. Those with CIRS are susceptible to these toxins and cannot clear them on their own. Thankfully, treatment is possible, but given that people suffering with CIRS have difficulty processing new information, we created The CIRS Group and now, this podcast, to help people better understand and identify this treatable illness.