The CIRS Group Podcast

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The CIRS Group Podcast episodes

June 29, 2023 Travel Tips! Living with CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, aka mold illness
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
Today we’re talking about tips for traveling with CIRS - choosing where to go, what to bring with you, what medications can help, and what to ask your practitioner before you go. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
1:20 Why you can be more normal after treatment
2:34 Considerations for travel - make it easy
4:08 Call ahead re: water damage
4:53 Find out the age of the building
5:36 Travel items: binders, VIP, air purifier
6:18 Getting ice packs through TSA
8:20 Worrying is not helpful, instead be aware
9:45 Work with your practitioner on a plan
11:14 Re-take the VCS test
12:59 Join The CIRS Group for more resources
VCS test: https://www.vcstest.com/
Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
14 min
June 22, 2023 Phase 5 - Repair and Restoration: The Shoemaker Protocol for CIRS
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
Today we’re talking about Phase 5 of the Shoemaker Protocol: Repair and Restoration. This phase includes correcting MMP9, C3a and C4a, and TGF-beta 1, and taking Vasoactive Intestinal Peptide, or VIP, Spray. The Shoemaker Protocol is the only clinically proven and peer reviewed method for treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:25 Phase 5: Maybe the most exciting
2:00 This phase is about Repair and Restoration
2:49 Correcting MMP9
5:43 Correcting C3a and C4a
6:24 Correcting TGF-beta 1
8:48 VIP Spray
10:13 Jacie’s experience with VIP Spray
12:03 Barbara’s experience with VIP Spray
13:09 Why you may want to track your symptoms
13:45 Reasons to join The CIRS Group
Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
17 min
June 12, 2023 The CIRS Group Summer 2023 Live Q&A Webinar
For more information, about chronic inflammatory response syndrome visit: https://thecirsgroup.com
Thank you to everyone who joined our Q&A webinar, if you are here to watch the replay, you can preview the questions using the timestamps below.
Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR8Uj-d_fok
Resources Mentioned:
- Judy Cho/Mike Schrantz Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmiWxtEOuH0&t=0s
- CIRS Lab Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cirslab/
- Dr. Dorninger's Practice: https://www.rootsandbranchesacupuncture.com
- My House Makes Me Sick Haplotype Calculator: https://www.myhousemakesmesick.com/hlacalc/
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
00:25 Who we are
03:10 What is The CIRS Group
03:36 Should I heal my gut before healing CIRS?
07:10 Can you talk about finding CIRS friendly housing and make air purifier recommendations?
08:39 Do you have to get rid of all your belongings to prevent exposure?
11:40 How do you know if you have MARCoNS?
13:33 Does too much detox too early cause more symptoms?
16:05 Have you tried coffee enemas to help with detox?
17:03 What is the difference between ERMI and HERTSMI?
18:23 Small particle cleaning
19:03 Do you recommend EC3 fogging after remediation?
20:57 What is the connection between dental health and CIRS?
22:54 How do you find your haplotypes?
23:39 How much oxalate are in the okra/beet supplements?
25:10 Are CSM and Welchol the only binders that can move the needle for CIRS?
27:37 How to manage anxiety around exposure?
29:05 Would you recommend a parasite cleanse?
31:19 Can mosquito bites cause CIRS?
32:21 How does CIRS impact metabolism?
35:52 How can I feel better before starting treatment?
37:55 What are high IGg allergies, what are these?
39:08 What symptoms can improve after taking CSM?
40:06 Can CIRS cause autoimmune issues?
41:25 Can fasting help with inflammation?
43:12 How concerned should we be about exposure in rivers?
44:19 Is it common to have more than one CIRS haplotype?
45:52 How do you deal with the impact of CIRS on social situations?
49:52 What is VIP spray?
51:18 How much do VIP spray and the binders cost?
51:50 Why is VIP spray the last step?
52:16 How do you get rid of brain fog? How long is the protocol?
54:22 Any thoughts on why some providers recommend clearing staph while others do not?
55:13 What strategies help minimize exposure for you? Cleaning protocols?
58:40 Outro
Thank you for joining us!
1 hr 1 min
June 07, 2023 Digging into The Shoemaker Protocol for CIRS: Phase four - Metabolism Repair
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re talking about Phase 4 of the Shoemaker Protocol: Metabolism Repair. This phase includes detox, balancing hormones, and balancing electrolytes. The Shoemaker Protocol is the only clinically proven and peer reviewed method for treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:
0:19 Phase Four: Metabolism Repair
1:00 Step One: Detox and how to handle with CIRS Treatment
3:10 Liver Support
3:35 Step Two: Balancing Hormones
5:30 Advocate for yourself in your treatment
6:33 Step Three: Balancing Electrolytes
9:17 Wrap up: Phase Four can be done in tandem with other phases

Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
12 min
May 31, 2023 Digging into The Shoemaker Protocol for CIRS: Phase three - Toxic Load Reduction
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
Today we’re talking about Phase 3 of the Shoemaker Protocol: Toxic Load Reduction. This phase includes the binders, treating MARCoNs, and treating the gut. The Shoemaker Protocol is the only clinically proven and peer reviewed method for treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:20 Barbara and Jacie’s favorite phase
0:51 First step of this phase: Binders
2:49 Barbara’s experience on the binders
3:59 Jacie’s experience on the binders
5:08 Welchol and Cholestyramine
7:10 On a scale of Welchol to Phosphatidylcholine
7:48 Step two of this phase: treating MARCoNs
9:13 Barbara’s experience treating MARCoNs
10:34 Methods of treatment and re-exposure
12:33 Dogs and CIRS
13:12 Test for MARCoNs before you move on to the next step
14:40 Do whatever you need to do to feel better
16:16 Gantt chart style treatment
17:58 Outro
MARCoNs test: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/functional-tests/marcons-testing
Gantt Charts: https://www.smartsheet.com/s/online-gantt-chart-b
Jacie is a carnivore (since 1/1/20), certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, a carnivore (since 1/1/21) and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
20 min
May 23, 2023 Digging into The Shoemaker Protocol for CIRS: Phase two - Foundation
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re talking about the second phase of the Shoemaker Protocol, the only clinically proven way to treat CIRS or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. The second phase includes Lipid Replacement, Limbic Retraining, and removing yourself from exposure.
TIME STAMPS:
0:38 The Shoemaker Protocol: Phase 2, the Foundation Phase
1:50 Lipid Replacement
4:10 Happy CIRSiversary to us
4:28 How to do lipid replacement
8:34 Limbic Retraining
14:00 Stuck in a rut
14:27 What can you do right now
14:41 Removing yourself from exposure
16:48 General hatred of Florida
18:20 Removing yourself from exposure is hard, but so worth it
19:55 How to test your home and/or workplace
21:20 Lyme, Red Tide, Long COVID
23:36 Bonus step: Do whatever it takes to feel good
DNRS: https://retrainingthebrain.com/
Gupta Program: https://www.guptaprogram.com/
The Joy Plan: https://kaiaroman.com/book/
Envirobiomics #7 test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=7516fd43adaa
ISEAI article on finding an IEP, or Indoor Environmental Professional:
https://iseai.org/finding-the-right-indoor-environmental-professional-to-assess-your-home/
Look up a CIRS practitioner here: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/list-of-certified-practitioners

Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
25 min
May 17, 2023 Digging into The Shoemaker Protocol for CIRS: Phase one - Diagnosis
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
Today we’re talking about the first phase of the Shoemaker Protocol: Diagnosis. The Shoemaker Protocol is the only peer-reviewed, clinically proven treatment for Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, aka CIRS, aka Mold Illness.
TIME STAMPS:
0:10 Diagnosis is the first phase of the Shoemaker Protocol
1:12 Step One: Symptom Clusters
2:46 Step Two: Visual Contrast Sensitivity Test
5:58 Step Three: Bloodwork
9:43 When you hate getting your blood drawn
10:53 LapCorp or Quest? Just stick with one
12:40 Why join TheCIRSGroup.com
Symptom Clusters (go to third slide):
https://www.instagram.com/p/CetvZvYpc0i/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Visual Contrast Sensitivity Test (vcstest): https://www.vcstest.com/
Judy’s mini CIRS test:
https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/lab-work/mini-chronic-inflammatory-response-syndrome-cirs-testing
Judy’s full CIRS test:
https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/lab-work/chronic-inflammatory-response-syndrome-cirs-testing

Jacie is a 3.5 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2.5 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
15 min
May 11, 2023 Genetic Haplotypes - What do your genes have to do with CIRS, mold, and other biotoxins?
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
Today we’re talking about genes - the genetic haplotypes that predispose you being susceptible to CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:
0:28 Genetics aren’t good or bad
1:00 Ancestors of people with CIRS may have been genetically able to survive the black plague
3:07 Why identifying your haplotype can help your recovery and treatment
4:10 Biotoxins are biotoxins
6:16 The Dread Pirate Roberts
6:30 Recap of the various haplotypes
8:02 Genes can be turned on and off
8:45 Testing for CIRS can allow you to better protect your kids
9:25 Be the example for your family

Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
11 min
May 02, 2023 What are Actinos, or Actinomycetes? - Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, CIRS, Mold Illness
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Actinos! How could something that sounds so cute be so sinister? Today we do a deep dive on this trendy new kid on the block in the CIRS world. We dig into what they are, why they matter, and what can be done to mitigate the damage they cause.

TIME STAMPS:
0:35 Barbara strikes fear unnecessarily
1:07 Deep dive actinos with Larry Schwartz
2:00 Why actinos are trending in the CIRS space
2:56 There are good and bad actinos
3:37 Why your home can be worse for actinos than outside
4:38 Cleanliness is key
6:00 What you can do to minimize actinos
7:20 Vaccum with a HEPA filter
8:08 Body wash, exfoliation
10:03 Ancestral practices better for people with CIRS
11:10 This is just another lever to pull
12:26 How to make life easier with CIRS

Link to interview with Larry Schwartz about Actinos: https://www.betterhealthguy.com/episode171
Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
15 min
April 18, 2023 Leaky Gut? Uveitis? Ankylosing Spondylitis? Maybe its CIRS or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome
https://thecirsgroup.com
Bonus illnesses? Heck yeah! There are 37 symptoms in the official CIRS diagnosis cluster list, but that doesn’t mean additional symptoms, illnesses, and syndromes don’t pop up quite often in people who are suffering from CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. Here we talk about some common ones to look out for. Do you have any of these?
TIME STAMPS:
0:24 Jacie’s bonus illness: Ankylosing Spondylitis
0:41 Barbara’s bonus illnesses: SIBO or Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth and Alopecia Areata
2:15 The Symptom Clusters for CIRS Diagnosis
3:08 If conventional medicine can’t cure you, or if you have an autoimmune illness, look at CIRS
3:45 Jacie’s Uveitis, when doctors rename your symptoms or say Idiopathic - RUN
5:14 Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue, SIBO, PCOS, migraines
6:00 The Carnivore community and CIRS: Carnivore-ing harder doesn’t work
7:35 Histamine Reactions and Mast Cell Activation Syndrome, or MCAS
8:18 Don’t worship at the idol of Carnivore - but its still the best way to eat
11:15 Trouble losing weight? It might be CIRS
12:05 Oxalate dumping

Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
16 min

About The CIRS Group Podcast

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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can happen to 25% of the population and is usually triggered by a biotoxin in the environment, like mold, red tide, lyme (tick bite), and even some medical interventions. Those with CIRS are susceptible to these toxins and cannot clear them on their own. Thankfully, treatment is possible, but given that people suffering with CIRS have difficulty processing new information, we created The CIRS Group and now, this podcast, to help people better understand and identify this treatable illness.