The CIRS Group Podcast

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The CIRS Group Podcast episodes

March 06, 2024 Long waitlists for expensive doctors? Here's what you can do cheaply to feel better NOW with CIRS
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness that usually requires costly treatment and remediation. Insurance rarely covers it, and because CIRS can cause us to work less (or less optimally) it turns into a bad cycle. This is why we’ve tackled today’s topic: What you can do for as little money as possible now, while you wait to save up for your first appointment with a CIRS literate practitioner. This episode focuses on OTC options and lifestyle changes you can do, not as a replacement for treatment, but as a way to feel as good as you can before starting treatment. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:27 How to get pretty darn sure of your diagnosis cheaply
4:41 How to eat and supplement while you wait to see a doctor
8:00 Remove yourself from exposure:
8:38 How to “cheaply” improve levels of mold, actinos, endos
11:00 Hidden areas toxins can hide: Fridge, Washing Machine, Drains
13:49 Consider moving, and environment testing
14:38 Lyme
15:57 COVID and vaccines
19:11 Histamine issues and MCAS
19:57 Things to remove: IUDs, birth control, Implants, botox
21:58 Things to add to your life: Sun, movement, sleep
HELPFUL LINKS:
Two options for taking the VCS test:
https://www.vcstest.com/
https://www.survivingmold.com/resources-for-patients/diagnosis/visual-contrast-sensitivity-vcs
Symptom clusters on third slide here: https://www.instagram.com/p/C2rhdMUMjwr/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
History of exposure options on first page: https://www.google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=a58887261996f4f05&q=https://www.survivingmold.com/docs/KJohnson_CIRS_ESSAY.PDF&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjwqd-oj9mEAxVsBEQIHSbmCQQQFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2euIEAyOFCdRuaLQcUT6bG
Omaprem supplements: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/inflammation/omaprem-spm-fatty-acids
Envirobiomics test most often recommended by CIRS doctors: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=7516fd43adaa
Dr. Peg DeTulio, Lyme specialist: https://regenixhealing.com/home-page
COVID episode: https://youtu.be/lBQ0xi1tHLo?si=-Iw1G6AcAtevp6uz
Surviving Mold write up COVID: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/dr.-shoemaker-essays/new-research-article
FLCCC protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
26 min
February 28, 2024 Long COVID? You might actually have CIRS! Is COVID is the new BIOTOXIN?
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is often caused by environmentally based biotoxins like mold, bacteria, and sewage. Less talked about are the co-infections that might reside IN you, like Lyme, dental infections, IUDs, implants, some vaccinations, and now the newest one: COVID-19 as well as the vaccine for COVID. Today, we dig into Jacie’s experience with vaccine and COVID exposure and the protocol she had to do on top of the Shoemaker Protocol to fully heal from CIRS. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro
1:00 Jacie and Barbara’s experience with COVID
3:15 Disclaimer
3:36 Surviving Mold has identified COVID as a biotoxin
4:37 Jacie’s exposure to the COVID vaccine
6:31 Spike Protein Damage Protocols
8:13 CIRS Co-Infections
11:39 TheCIRSGroup.com member experience

HELPFUL LINKS:
SurvingMold.com article/study on COVID: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/dr.-shoemaker-essays/new-research-article
FLCCC Alliance protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/I-RECOVER-Post-Vaccine-2023-07-24.pdf

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

13 min
February 21, 2024 Can eating Carnivore hurt you?! What carbs are safe? How to eat when you have CIRS, or mold illness
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that attacks multiple systems in the body, including the metabolism of energy and digestion of food. The fun side effects can include stubborn weight gain, histamine issues, GI issues, fatigue, and cognitive issues from lack of energy. Today, we’ll dig into why that is and ways of eating you may want to try to help yourself along this complicated healing journey. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
0:52 Our qualifications
2:45 Our experience with CIRS and carnivore
4:09 Carnivoring harder is not the answer
6:32 Carnivore as a band-aid
8:04 How to eat for CIRS
8:40 Why do an elimination diet
10:15 Hypometabolism and difficulty with ketosis
11:50 GI Issues: why digestive enzymes, butyrate don’t always work
15:01 Low-Amylose, low-mold, AIP diets lead to carnivore
17:07 Why carnivore/keto may not always work for CIRS
21:05 Eat the meat you like, can afford, and makes you feel your best
22:00 How to experiment with carbs
23:10 Weight loss difficulty with CIRS
25:27 Muscle gain difficulty with CIRS
26:33 Leptin resistance
28:20 Hypometabolism and gluconeogenesis
29:19 Mobilizing fat stores can cause worsening symptoms
HELPFUL LINKS:
Resource from Dr. Shoemaker on ways to eat to support healing on this protocol: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/community/week-of-may-8-2023

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
31 min
February 14, 2024 CIRS then and now: TheCIRSGroup.com podcast turns 1 and celebrates FIFTY episodes!
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a really complex, confusing illness with a treatment protocol to match. Today, we celebrate FIFTY EPISODES of TheCIRSGroup.com podcast. To celebrate, we offer a retrospective of how far CIRS has come even in the short time we’ve known about it (two years) and where we see it going from here. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:50 When we were first diagnosed vs now
3:50 Judy Cho’s pivotal role in CIRS awareness
5:00 Jordan Peterson interview w/Dr. Shoemaker and Dr. McMahon
7:29 Growing pains in the CIRS space
8:54 CIRSx conference
12:08 TheCIRSGroup.com - then and now

HELPFUL LINKS:
Judy Cho’s website: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/
Judy’s most impactful interview for CIRS awareness: https://youtu.be/-xt-0yJBGTs?si=euJXvOUQ5EcCmPGY
Jordan Peterson interview with Dr. Shoemaker and Dr. McMahon: https://youtu.be/LGG7om1hHcU?si=vX2lnk4eMg8oM1n6
CIRSx recap episodes (playlist): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtFmHRLGI2wHK62Iq4qOQqkxAwE9lkdpZ

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

16 min
February 07, 2024 What if your gym, car, or job are keeping you sick? Potential exposure sources outside the home
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a really complex, confusing illness with a treatment protocol to match. Today, we are tackling a viewer request: other exposure sources besides homes. We’ll talk about what to do if you suspect one of these sources might be keeping you sick: your workplace, gym, salon, roommates, loved ones, and even your pets! For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
0:36 The first step of the Shoemaker Protocol: remove exposure
1:29 Workplace exposure
3:40 Changing jobs or starting a business as an option
5:56 Vehicle exposure
8:20 Errands, hobbies, salons, gyms
11:18 Other people: roommates, spouses, family, friends
13:17 Pets, animals
HELPFUL LINKS (NOT affiliate!):
ZeroRez for car and carpet cleaning: https://www.zerorez.com/
Defense soap: https://a.co/d/gJj76k4
Defense soap wipes: https://a.co/d/gAjtCp8
Tea Tree wipes: https://a.co/d/3xrcotb
Wipes for dogs: https://a.co/d/8y6uZj8
Study on Staph and dogs: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870875/
Episode we did on dogs w/CIRS: https://youtu.be/6e_IznfWDec?si=n1gj6jNkl4Bf1GIU
Shoemaker’s advice on treatment of dogs: https://www.survivingmold.com/physicians/dashboard/previous-membership-section-questions-and-answers

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
17 min
January 24, 2024 Change your brain to change your health: Limbic retraining explained
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is taxing on your body, mind, and spirit. To fully heal from this chronic condition, you need to attack it on all fronts. Today, we’re tackling the mind: Limbic retraining, or rewiring your brain, can actually reduce symptoms and get your mind out of fight or flight and into a relaxed state, primed for healing and wellness. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
0:43 Jacie’s passion for limbic retraining
3:05 Permission to wait until you’re ready
3:53 Limbic retraining is part of a holistic approach
4:56 What is Limbic Retraining?
8:14 Things that limbic retraining can improve:
8:30 Mood regulation
8:50 Fearing the gene or the biotoxins
9:59 Believe you can heal, desire to heal
10:44 Improving histamine responses
11:10 Get a better baseline, resilience
11:50 Ways of implementing limbic retraining

HELPFUL LINKS:
The Brain That Changes Itself: Stories of Personal Triumph from the Frontiers of Brain Science: https://a.co/d/gSN9SYk
DNRS: https://retrainingthebrain.com/
Gupta: https://guptaprogram.com/
Wired4Healing, where Jacie leads classes: https://wired4healing.com/
Nutrition with Judy’s Mind Body program: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/nwj-mind-body-program
The Joy Plan by Kaia Roman: https://a.co/d/gn5Nyg2
Join The CIRS Group for limbic retraining support: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
18 min
January 17, 2024 Big Pharma helps? Sometimes! Prescription medications that help you heal from CIRS or mold illness
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness but thankfully certain prescription medications can actually help you heal from it. The medications we discuss today are all used by various Shoemaker certified practitioners for their patients with CIRS. If you are interested in any of these medications, check with your practitioner to see if it might work for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:25 Biotoxin Binders: Cholestyramine, Welchol
4:53 Consideration for binder reactivity, and non-prescription option
6:00 MARCoNs treatments: BEG, EDTA, Xlear, Silver
8:46 MARCoNs spray for treatment in dogs
10:54 VIP spray
14:35 Low Dose Naltrexone for pain and low mood
16:11 Cromolyn for MCAS or histamine issues

HELPFUL LINKS (not affiliate!):
Mycobind: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/immune-support/mycobind
Xlear: https://a.co/d/gosaTiV
Xlear with Coptis: https://waldenfarmacy.com/product/coptis-nasal-spray/
Argentyn 23: https://a.co/d/ejtPaGN
ACS spray: https://a.co/d/3sEVpSw
Dogs and CIRS episode: https://youtu.be/6e_IznfWDec?si=dmiX7m76pC0ZhRje
GENIE episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=FsbE1cddXvBoFZds

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
18 min
January 10, 2024 The Human Experience of CIRS: 18 people share their stories of pain and hope in healing from mold
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

This one hurts, guys. But it’s important. CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can be a painful, isolating, debilitating illness. Today, we’re sharing stories our members allowed us to bring to you so you might understand CIRS a little better, or at least find empathy in your heart for those that suffer with it. And if you have CIRS, then I hope this validates your experience, even if no one in your life does. Despite the pain and sadness, we hope this is a message of hope for healing. It will get better, healing is possible. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com.

TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
3:00 Tobey
3:57 Chad
4:28 Rosie
5:16 Missy
6:21 Gabriella
6:42 Gerald
7:04 Gloriana
8:15 Chike
9:05 Natascha
9:43 Kimberly
10:30 CIRS Mom
11:53 Chase
12:27 Ariel
13:27 Dorothy
13:42 Terrance
14:27 Tiffany
14:46 Kirk
15:40 Alyssa
16:44 Wrap up

For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
19 min
January 04, 2024 How chronic illness changed us: Living & healing from Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS)
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a deeply impactful illness. It has changed us, but we think for the better. Today we’re exploring what having and healing from CIRS has done to our mindsets, relationships, and goals. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
0:46 Forced focus on health and healthy relationships
2:42 CIRS re-prioritized the most important things
4:20 Lifestyle changes to support healing
6:40 Developing empathy for invisible illness
9:40 Ready for opportunities - willing to sacrifice
11:56 Doing hard things doesn’t mean they aren’t hard
13:25 Seeing CIRS everywhere

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
17 min
December 27, 2023 Is your home or office making you sick? How to test your environment for mold & other biotoxins!
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness, but the first and most important step towards healing is ensuring you have a clean environment, free from mold and other biotoxins. Today, we’re tackling why this is so important and how to test to be sure your home and workplaces are safe for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
01:49 Biotoxins: Mycotoxins, Endotoxins, Actinos
02:49 Why test your current environment
03:48 Why a clean environment is important for your healing
06:02 Environment tests you can do yourself
07:18 Where you should test: home and work
07:46 Why use the #7 test
08:49 GENIE testing
10:22 Addressing all biotoxins is important
11:22 How to do the Envirobiomics test
16:20 Trash bag hack
17:59 Getting refunds on tests you can’t use or don’t use
21:00 Interpretation of your test results
22:53 Why we don’t do affiliate codes
HELPFUL LINKS:
Previous episodes on safe environments and testing:
CIRSx recap on safe environments: https://youtu.be/MXV3S3oL22M?si=1l6P0p7XWA2Njn7Z
CIRSx recap on remediation: https://youtu.be/mREuhpzHUV4?si=tOhV-0lbJF2G4MKp
What are Actinos? https://youtu.be/q-KW5ZXUHVM?si=P3YVZRZcF0igUUqQ
Envirobiomics: https://www.envirobiomics.com/
#7 test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=7516fd43adaa
GENIE episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=alS0JfldcxylTfu7
Mold testing Reel: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ci0TlRDp3_n/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
25 min

About The CIRS Group Podcast

From the publisher's feed

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can happen to 25% of the population and is usually triggered by a biotoxin in the environment, like mold, red tide, lyme (tick bite), and even some medical interventions. Those with CIRS are susceptible to these toxins and cannot clear them on their own. Thankfully, treatment is possible, but given that people suffering with CIRS have difficulty processing new information, we created The CIRS Group and now, this podcast, to help people better understand and identify this treatable illness.