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Wholesaling real estate in Chicago takes more moving pieces than most markets, and AJ Fattori and Charlie Pyles have built a business on it in their early 20s. They break down the escrow holdback that keeps a deal alive when a seller can't move out, and why they keep three to five buyers on speed dial instead of a list of a thousand. They also get honest about blowing through the money early on and worrying about rent while deals were closing.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
1:30 - How AJ & Charlie Started
4:53 - Their First Flip
5:56 - Funding the Deal
8:52 - Escrow Holdback Explained
14:11 - Finding the Deal & Motivation
18:21 - Building Trust With Sellers
21:24 - Building a Buyers List
25:07 - Speed & Title Work
27:16 - Scariest Moments & Money Lessons
32:42 - Advice for New Wholesalers
37:13 - Wrap-Up & Where to Find Them
37:55 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: AJ Fattori
https://www.instagram.com/ajfattori/
Instagram: Charlie Pyles
https://www.instagram.com/charliee.pyles/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
Philip Louden calls it becoming the bank: you buy a cheap livable house in a small market, then resell it on seller financing to a family that wants to own instead of rent. He explains why this arbitrage works, how he finds and structures these deals, and where the financing comes from when you do not have cash. If you have been chasing assignment fees and want something that pays you every month, this is the model to study.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - What Are Starter Wraps
1:46 - How Starter Wraps Work
3:37 - The Power of Financial Arbitrage
5:46 - A Deal In Marion, Indiana
8:26 - Financing These Deals
11:33 - The BRRRR Jacket Strategy
13:28 - Best Markets & Serving Buyers
14:33 - Final Goal & Wrap-Up
15:13 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Philip Louden
https://www.instagram.com/phil_louden
Website: Seller Finance Freedom Academy
https://www.skool.com/sellerfinancefree/about
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
Mobile homes are still an untapped niche in real estate investing, and Aaron Bihl does 8 to 10 deals a month with them as his focus. He explains why the stigma around them gets him better deals than a stick built house, and why he's moving toward buying lots and putting new homes on them. He also walks through the soil test that cost him 1,600 dollars and killed a two lot deal he was ready to close.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:48 - Ryan's Rent Collection Update
2:25 - The Business Aaron Bihl Built
3:48 - How Aaron Got Started
6:10 - First Deals & Working Under a Broker
9:15 - Finding Those First Deals
10:46 - DealMachine Data & Land Filters
13:58 - Why He Focused on Mobile Homes
18:03 - Worst Condition He'll Buy
20:44 - Single-Wides & Deal Discipline
22:31 - The Georgia Deal Lesson
25:19 - Marketing & Selling the Lots
27:22 - Business Partnership Split
29:00 - Excited About Land-Home Scaling
33:43 - Advice for the Cubicle Dreamer
39:00 - Where to Find Aaron
39:18 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Aaron Bihl
https://www.instagram.com/aaron.bihl
Website: Flip Trailers
https://www.fliptrailers.com/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
Wholesale deal flow gets easier when other wholesalers bring you the deals, and that's how Phil Cacciatore does 30 to 50 a month in Tampa Bay. He walks through how his sales team finds cash buyers by reverse searching who already bought nearby. He also covers how 21 Property Group went from six sales reps to 45 in about a year and a half.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro & Hosts
1:15 - Ryan's Slow Market Year
2:04 - Phil Cacciatore's Business Overview
3:27 - The Investor Marketplace Model
4:26 - Joining & Scaling the Company
6:44 - Building the Dispo Process
9:16 - Finding Buyers with DealMachine
11:57 - Hardest Part of Scaling
14:00 - Marketing & Lead Sources
16:21 - Structuring 10K Partnerships
17:31 - Helping New Wholesalers Analyze Deals
18:53 - Motivating the Sales Team
21:05 - Inventory Ups and Downs
22:03 - Advice for Solo Wholesalers
23:05 - Favorite Podcasts & Learning
23:54 - The Implementation Process
27:48 - Where to Find Phil
28:04 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Phil Cacciatore
https://www.instagram.com/phil_cacciatore/
Website: 21 Property Group
https://www.21propertygroup.com/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
Cody Morris, CEO of LeadZolo, has built and scaled around 300 remote sales teams, and he says most wholesale deals die in the first two minutes of the call. He walks through the opening line that keeps a seller on the phone and the frame that keeps you leading the call instead of defending it. If your leads look good on paper but your close rate does not, start here.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro & Cody Morris's Background
1:17 - Cost of Leads: Time vs Money
2:55 - Ad Strategy & Distress Signals
5:46 - Speed to Lead & Opening Script
7:42 - Set an Authoritative Frame
10:52 - Use the Lead Information
13:55 - Wrap-up & LeadZolo Offerings
14:23 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: LeadZolo
https://www.instagram.com/leadzolo/
Website: LeadZolo
https://www.leadzolo.com/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
Carly Stagge left corporate finance at JP Morgan and did $1 million in assignment fees her first full year in Denver. She explains why her company double closes every deal now, and how transactional funding moved their average fee from $17,500 to $25,500 in a single month. She also covers what a double close does that an assignment cannot, including the ability to renegotiate price with the seller, and why assignment fee laws in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio are pushing wholesalers toward it.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
3:11 - Carly's Million-Dollar First Year
5:23 - Why Wholesaling Became Addictive
6:59 - Finding Deals in Colorado
8:45 - Marketing & Direct-to-Seller Methods
9:53 - Double Closing as Free Marketing
11:50 - Bigger Spreads Through Double Closing
15:34 - Building Your Own Capital
17:01 - Keys to First-Year Success
19:19 - Overcoming Fear of Spending Money
20:35 - Networking & Learning From Mentors
23:34 - Starting the Transactional Funding Fund
26:16 - Career Path: Finance to New Western
28:03 - Goals for the Funding Company
30:47 - Most Rewarding Deal Story
32:49 - Where to Find Carly & Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Flip Fund Capital
https://www.instagram.com/flipfund_capital/
Website: Flip Fund Capital
https://www.flipfundcapital.com/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
Nathaniel Brimlow runs a nationwide land wholesaling business from Hawaii with a fully remote team of seven people. He walks through the buy box he uses to cut the entire country down to a workable list: two acres and up, $50,000 and up in value, owners over 65, and ten years of ownership or an inherited property. He also breaks down sell through rate, the metric he uses to throw out markets before he spends a dollar marketing to them, plus how his team disposes of land through realtors, neighbors, and local investor lists.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro & Welcome
0:45 - An Overview Of Nathaniel Brimlow's Business
6:05 - Why Land Over Houses
6:51 - Underwriting & Deal Criteria
8:37 - Buying Remotely From Hawaii
9:24 - Pulling & Scrubbing Data
10:18 - Finding Buyers For Land
11:46 - Creative Title & Deal Stories
15:25 - Choosing Markets & Sell-Through
19:39 - Ideal Seller Profile
21:00 - VA Staffing & Where To Find Him
23:04 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Nathaniel Brimlow
https://www.instagram.com/nathaiel/
Website: Vita Talent Staffing
https://www.vitatalentstaffing.com/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
Transaction volume across the country is down roughly 35% from a few years ago, and wholesalers and fix and flip investors are feeling it in every part of the business. Brian Snider walks through the top ten issues hitting real estate investors right now, from tighter underwriting and softening buyer demand to inconsistent marketing and thin exit strategies. He also covers where AI belongs in your workflow, why offers made is the one KPI worth tracking above closings or profit, and the budget rule he applies to every marketing channel he tests.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Top 10 Issues Intro
2:40 - Tighter Underwriting
3:39 - Managing Your Data
5:16 - Using AI the Right Way
6:31 - Softening Buyer Demand
7:39 - Consistent Marketing
9:18 - Sales Conversion Skills
11:22 - Multiple Exit Strategies
12:19 - KPIs and Tracking Offers
13:52 - Finding Support & Community
15:03 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Brian Snider
https://www.instagram.com/theindysnider/
Website: Collective Genius
https://thecollectivegenius.com/team-members/brian-snider/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
Michelle Murray has been doing wholesale real estate in South Florida for fourteen years and now runs it with a team of seven. She breaks down the systems that made her real estate deals repeatable, and what roughly 100 hires taught her about putting the right person in the right seat. If you can close a deal but cannot make it happen again, this one is for you.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
1:10 - How Michelle Murray Got Started In Wholesaling
7:58 - Lessons From 14 Years
11:44 - Team Structure & Roles
14:48 - Hiring The Right People
17:28 - Marketing To Find Deals
19:03 - Managing The Buyers List
21:16 - Joining Collective Genius
26:05 - Using AI In The Business
32:07 - Where To Find Michelle
33:12 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Michelle Murray
https://www.instagram.com/michelle.d.murray/
Website: My Quick Home Buyers
https://www.myquickhomebuyers.com/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
Louise Fabale runs a land wholesaling business in North Carolina from the Philippines, closing five to ten deals a month and did $30,000 in a single month. Her strategy is backwards from what most wholesalers do, because she finds the buyer and their buy box before she ever markets to a seller. In this episode she walks through the cold call that turns a stranger into a repeat buyer and the list filters she uses to skip the lots builders won't touch.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro & Business Overview
1:12 - Why North Carolina
3:07 - From Corporate to Land
6:27 - First Solo Deal
7:45 - Building a Buyers List
10:49 - Lessons & Doubts Cleared Up
12:35 - Biggest Success Story
13:33 - Filtering Land Deals
16:06 - Why Land Over Houses
17:28 - Calling & Skip Tracing Relatives
19:24 - Deal That Taught a Lesson
21:11 - 2026 Goals & Where to Find Luis
23:00 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Louise Fabale
https://www.instagram.com/louwecsh/
Website: Smartify Academy
https://www.smartifyacademy.com/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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