The DUTCH Podcast

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In this episode, Dr. Mamina Turegano and host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton examine root causes for skin conditions and discuss how hormone balance, gut health, stress levels, and diet can impact skin health. 

This episode also highlights: 

• The links between gut dysbiosis and acne, rosacea, and psoriasis 
• How the balance of estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone can impact the skin 
• Theories on the rise in adult female acne 
• The effect of environmental toxins and endocrine disruptors on skin health 
• Skin as a systemic signal of gut health, hormone health, stress, and diet 

Show Notes 

Learn more about Dr. Mamina Turegano and follow her on Instagram @dr.mamina! 

Learn about easy at-home collection for patients with DUTCH Direct. 

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In this episode, Dr. Stephanie Dunlop joins host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton to discuss the gap between “normal” and “optimal” lab reference ranges, commonly missed labs, and the importance of root cause assessment over treating isolated markers. 

Dr. Dunlop and Dr. Smeaton also discuss: 

• How “normal” does not equate to “optimal” when it comes to standard lab ranges 
• Addressing the foundations before testing, like nervous system regulation, gut integrity, and sleep hygiene 
• The importance of treating the root cause rather than treating markers in silos 
• Other labs worth requesting, such as ferritin, homocysteine, and fasting insulin 
• The impact of simple nervous system regulation tools 

Show Notes 

Learn more about Dr. Stephanie Dunlop and Root Rx, and follow her on Instagram @docstephaniemd! 

Become a DUTCH Provider today to see how the DUTCH Test can profoundly change the lives of your patients. 

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In this conversation, Dr. Jaime Seeman joins host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton to discuss muscle as an underappreciated cornerstone of women’s metabolic and hormone health, particularly during perimenopause and menopause, and the importance of resistance training.

This episode also highlights:

• Muscle as a metabolic organ, not just a cosmetic one, and the importance of muscle tissue quality
• How resistance training and cardio affect body composition differently
• The importance of preserving fast-twitch muscle fibers for longevity later in life
• Strategies for protein and carbohydrate intake
• How the DUTCH Test can help identify where hormonal intervention can fill the gaps beyond lifestyle habits, particularly with estrogen, DHEA, and androgen levels post-menopause

Show Notes

Learn more about Dr. Jaime Seeman and follow her on Instagram @doctorfitandfabulous!

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In this episode, registered dietician and celiac disease specialist Erin Kenny joins host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton to discuss the differences between celiac disease and gluten sensitivity, the social and emotional toll of diagnosis, and common myths and misinformation. 

Their conversation also covers: 

• The underestimated social and emotional burden of the disease 
• How less symptoms do not equate to less intestinal damage 
• Hidden drivers behind symptoms, including dysbiosis, hormonal issues, thyroid dysfunction, and nervous system dysregulation 
• The physiological effects of stress 
• How DUTCH testing can help identify HPA axis dysregulation 

Show Notes 

Learn more about Erin Kenny and follow her on Instagram @the_celiac_space! 

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In this episode, Dr. Rubaina Dang and host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton explore the root causes of hair loss in women, particularly the information that standard labs can miss. Dr. Dang and Dr. Smeaton also dive into the hormones driving hair loss, optimal versus “normal” lab levels, and the gut-skin-hair axis. 

Their conversation also highlights: 

• Dr. Dang’s recommended panels for anyone presenting with hair loss 
• The key differences between “normal” and optimal lab ranges when it comes to hair health 
• Stressors that can cause telogen effluvium, including illness, rapid weight loss, postpartum, or a major life event 
• How gut dysbiosis and inflammation can affect hair follicles 
• Dr. Dang’s rankings for popular hair-growth products and ingredients 

Show Notes 

Learn more about Dr. Rubaina Dang and follow her on Instagram @healwithdrdang! 

Check out our white paper on 5a-androstanediol.

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In this episode, Dr. Margaret Beeson joins host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton to discuss bone health, estrogen decline during perimenopause, and the importance of family history as a predictor of bone health and risk of osteoporosis. 

Dr. Beeson and Dr. Smeaton also discuss: 

• How estrogen decline contributes to bone loss 
• Genetics and family history as the strongest predictors of risk 
• The need for DEXA scans to occur earlier and establish a baseline of bone density 
• The impact of estrogen and progesterone therapy on bone health and how DUTCH testing captures those hormone levels 
• Systemic issues in primary care that can make proactive screening difficult 

Show Notes 

Learn more about Dr. Margaret Beeson and her practice, Yellowstone Naturopathic Clinic. 

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In this episode, Dr. Felice Gersh joins host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton and DUTCH founder Mark Newman for a deep-dive on progesterone: its physiological roles, concerns around standard-of-care prescribing practices, and more. 

Their conversation also explores: 

• Progesterone’s role as more than an endometrial protectant 
• Supraphysiologic allopregnanolone created by oral micronized progesterone 
• The physiological benefits of cyclic dosing versus continuous dosing 
• How the gut microbiome impacts progesterone metabolism 
• The need for more research on oral micronized progesterone and dosing methods 

Show Notes

Learn more about Dr. Gersh’s practice Integrative Medical Group of Irvine and check out her books! 

Read Dr. Smeaton’s article on oral micronized progesterone in menopause. 

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In this episode, Dr. Bindiya Gandhi joins host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton to explore GLP-1 receptor agonists through a whole-person, root-cause lens with a particular focus on women’s health. 

Their discussion also covers: 

• How GLP-1s work, who benefits most, and how to cease therapy successfully 
• The role of leptin resistance in weight struggles 
• The risk of muscle loss and bone health during GLP-1 therapy 
• Using GLP-1s as part of a comprehensive protocol, including optimizing gut health, strength training, and managing cortisol and sex hormones 
• Considerations for menopausal women using hormone therapy in addition to GLP-1s 

Show Notes 

Learn more about Dr. Bindiya Gandhi and follow her on Instagram @drbindiyamd! 

Check out our DUTCH Article on GLP-1s and perimenopause. 

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This conversation between Dr. Sonya Jensen and host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton covers the science of how stress disrupts female hormone health and the emotions women carry that perpetuate that disruption. They also discuss the physiological mechanisms of chronic stress and how hormone testing can tell patients their stress story. 

This episode also highlights: 

• How chronic stress and sustained cortisol production can lead to suppressed progesterone 
• The downstream effects of resentment and unexpressed emotion 
• How a patient’s emotional history connects to their symptoms 
• The cortisol/cortisone ratio and what it can tell practitioners and patients about fatigue, low motivation, anxiety, and burnout 
• Using the Cortisol Awakening Response on the DUTCH Plus as a clinical conversation tool

Show Notes 

Learn more about Dr. Sonya Jensen and follow her on Instagram @drsonyajensen! 

Check out Dr. Sonya’s book, Heal Your Hormones, Reclaim Yourself. 

Read the ovarian aging study mentioned in this episode. 

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In this episode, Dr. Saru Bala and host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton discuss the connection between hormones, the nervous system, and mood, specifically PMS and PMDD, from an integrative medicine perspective.  

Their discussion also highlights: 

• Why hormonal shifts affect mood and the neuroscience behind those shifts 
• The distinction between PMS and PMDD and why they are often dismissed as anxiety or depression 
• How the luteal phase can reflect baseline health, including nutrition, lifestyle, and stress levels 
• The importance of comprehensive testing and how those markers impact mood and cycle symptoms 
• Key supplementation and lifestyle recommendations 

Show Notes 

Learn more about Dr. Saru Bala and follow her on Instagram @drsarubala! 

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