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  • An Update to the Serum-Saliva Debate for Transdermal Hormone Therapy Monitoring

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    In this episode, Dr. Mark Holthouse joins Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton and DUTCH founder Mark Newman to take a closer look at a recent peer-reviewed publication from Precision Analytical, Inc. in Frontiers in Reproductive Health, examining how different testing methods hold up when it comes to monitoring male TRT in clinical practice.

    Their discussion also covers:

    • Common misconceptions about how creams and gels show up in saliva testing and why the numbers can be misleading
    • What the clinical data actually shows about dosing accuracy across different testing modalities 
    • When to use serum, urine, and other testing approaches can be leveraged to optimize treatment.
    • How under or overdosing risks can be reduced by matching the right test to the right clinical question
    • Why advancing best practices in integrative medicine requires continually revisiting what the evidence supports

    Show Notes 

    Read our DUTCH Article on the Frontiers study, Mark Newman’s commentary, and the full study here. 

    Check out the resources mentioned in this episode: 

    • The topical progesterone cream study in Fertility and Sterility 
    • The transdermal progesterone study from Climacteric 
    • Good Energy mentioned by Dr. Holthouse 
    • The study on the cardiovascular safety of TRT in the New England Journal of Medicine 
    • The study on testosterone threshold levels and skeletal muscle strength 

    Become a DUTCH Provider to gain access to comprehensive patient reports, peer-reviewed and validated research, and expert clinical support. 

    1 hr 8 min
  • Cracking the Hashimoto’s Code: Toxins, Stress & Smarter Testing

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    In this episode, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton discusses Hashimoto’s thyroiditis with Inna Topiler, a board-certified clinical nutritionist who shares her personal experience and health journey with Hashimoto’s. 

    Their discussion also covers: 

    • Why standard thyroid testing is insufficient 
    • The four main triggers of immune confusion in Hashimoto’s, including stress, infections, toxins, and food sensitivities 
    • The impact of dysregulated cortisol on thyroid function 
    • How cortisol patterns on the DUTCH Test can be informative for Hashimoto’s patients 
    • Practical and accessible stress management tips 

    Show Notes 

    Learn more about Inna Topiler and follow her on Instagram @innatopiler! 

    Become a DUTCH Provider to get access to comprehensive patient reports, peer-reviewed and validated research, and expert clinical support. 

    58 min
  • The Estrogen Myth: Rethinking Hormone Therapy & Breast Cancer Risk

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    Join us for this episode with Dr. Jenn Simmons, an integrative breast surgeon and oncologist, alongside host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton and DUTCH founder Mark Newman. This conversation deepens the discussion from a previous episode on hormones and breast cancer risk, challenging widely held clinical assumptions rooted in the Women's Health Initiative (WHI) study. 

    This episode also explores: 

    • The critical distinction between progestins and progesterone 
    • The role of metabolic dysfunction in cancer development 
    • Breast cancer as a disease of hormone deficiency, particularly progesterone deficiency, rather than hormone excess 
    • The impact of estrogen metabolism, especially the 4-hydroxy pathway, and how the DUTCH Test can provide insight into these pathways 
    • Individualized hormone therapy for breast cancer survivors 

    Show Notes 

    Listen to our previous episode with Dr. Jenn Simmons! 

    Check out the aging human breast study, the study on menopausal hormone therapy after breast cancer, and the transdermal testosterone study mentioned in this episode. 

    Learn more about Dr. Jenn Simmons and follow her on Instagram @drjennsimmons! 

    Become a DUTCH Provider to get access to comprehensive patient reports, peer-reviewed and validated research, and expert clinical support. 

    1 hr 9 min
  • How Estrogen Shapes Women’s Health & Longevity

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    In this episode, Dr. Asare Christian and Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton discuss female longevity and health span. Dr. Christian brings his unique perspective as a former pain specialist who discovered that many of the chronic conditions he was treating were rooted in hormone imbalance.

    This episode also highlights:

    ·       Three main factors that can contribute to women living longer

    ·       The protective qualities of estrogen as well as the effects of its decline during perimenopause

    ·       The importance of testing early and getting baseline hormone levels before symptoms appear

    ·       How the DUTCH Test provides a picture of hormone metabolism, leading to clarity around estrogen metabolites, the HPA axis, and more

    ·       Treating the hormonal root cause rather than prescribing medications for each symptom

     

    Show Notes

    Learn more about Dr. Asare Christian and his practice, Aether Medicine. Follow him on Instagram @aether_medicine!

    Become a DUTCH Provider to get access to free educational resources, expert clinical support, comprehensive patient reports, and peer-reviewed and validated research.

    54 min
  • A Practitioner’s Guide to Stress Patterns, Cortisol & Recovery

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    In this episode, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton and Dr. Donielle Wilson discuss Dr. Donielle’s clinical philosophy, research findings, and personal journey around understanding and treating stress. 

    Their discussion also covers: 

    • The stress response and how it’s highly individualized, shaped by genetics, and impacted by prior stress exposure 
    • How standard cortisol testing misses most of the cortisol picture 
    • Chronic stress and its cascade to multiple body systems, including the reproductive system in women 
    • The five clinical stress patterns practitioners should be aware of 
    • Small, consistent actions toward stress recovery, like mindfulness and deep breathing, can make a big difference 

    Show Notes 

    Learn more about Dr. Donielle Wilson and follow her on Instagram @drdoniwilson! 

    Check out the study mentioned in this episode, and learn more about Dr. Wilson’s book, Master Your Stress, Reset Your Health and her podcast, How Humans Heal. 

    Become a DUTCH Provider today to see how the DUTCH Test can profoundly change the lives of your patients. 

    1 hr 3 min
  • Hormones, Sleep & Brain Health: Understanding Alzheimer’s Prevention

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    In this insightful episode, Dr. Heather Sandison and Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton discuss the root causes of cognitive decline and Alzheimer's, how a naturopathic approach differs from conventional medicine, and practical strategies for brain health at any age. 

    This episode also highlights: 

    • The six drivers of cognitive decline 
    • The impact of hormones, especially the steep drop in estrogen at menopause 
    • How infections like Lyme disease, shingles, and COVID-19 can be linked to cognitive decline 
    • Tips for early intervention, including the importance of sleep hygiene along with diet, exercise, and stress management 
    • Using genetics to inform and optimize early intervention strategies 

    Show Notes 

    Learn more about Dr. Sandison and follow her on Instagram @dr.heathersandison! 

    Read the ovarian aging study mentioned by Dr. Smeaton in this episode. 

    Become a DUTCH Provider today to see how the DUTCH Test can profoundly change the lives of your patients. 

    59 min
  • What Triggers Acne? Optimizing Hormones & Gut Health

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    In this episode, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton sits down with Dr. Bryant Esquejo, ND to unpack acne through a functional medicine lens, moving far beyond the surface to explore what’s really happening inside the body.

     Dr. Esquejo and Dr. Smeaton also discuss:  

    • Acne as not just a skin condition, but a reflection of imbalances involving hormones, blood sugar, inflammation, and the gut microbiome 
    • The science behind acne development, from bacterial activity and oil production to deeper drivers like insulin resistance, androgen metabolism, and chronic inflammation 
    • The influence of diet, stress, sleep, and gut health 
    • How advanced testing, like hormone metabolite analysis, can reveal hidden imbalances in the body 
    • Treating acne as an opportunity to better understand and optimize whole-body health 

    Learn more about Dr. Esquejo and follow him on Instagram @dr.bryant! 

    Check out Dr. Esquejo’s blog post on blood sugar, insulin, and acne, and read our whitepaper on 5a-Androstanediol as a marker of androgen status in women. 

    Become a DUTCH Provider to get access to free educational resources, expert clinical support, comprehensive patient reports, and peer-reviewed and validated research. 

    48 min
  • Test Before You Prescribe: A Low Testosterone Case Study Review

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    In this episode, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton and DUTCH Founder Mark Newman discuss a case study published in Integrative Medicine: A Clinician’s Journal in which Mark himself was the patient. The case covers the step-by-step hormonal and metabolic effects of using HCG to boost endogenous testosterone, revealing how increasing testosterone can cascade into elevated estrogen, impaired estrogen clearance, and strained methylation capacity. 

    Their conversation also highlights: 

    • The benefits of combining serum testing and DUTCH testing to monitor dosing as well as metabolism, clearance, and methylation 
    • How methylation is affected by raising testosterone 
    • The value of tracking step-by-step supplementation plans with repeated testing 
    • The importance of baseline testing before beginning testosterone therapy 
    • An upcoming research publication that compares hormone testing methods for testosterone monitoring 

    Read the DUTCH article and access the full IMCJ case report. 

    Become a DUTCH Provider to see how the DUTCH Test can profoundly change the lives of your patients. 

    52 min
  • What the DUTCH Test Reveals About Stress, Inflammation & Immune Health

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    Join Dr. Allison Smith and Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton for this episode as they share expert insights into how hormones, the HPA axis, and lifestyle factors influence immune health, injury risk, sleep, and overall well-being during perimenopause and menopause.

    Dr. Smeaton and Dr. Smith also discuss: 

    • The relationship between hormonal changes, stress, and inflammation 
    • How cortisol and estrogen can impact sleep quality and inflammation in perimenopausal women 
    • Patterns seen on DUTCH tests indicating inflammation, immune overactivation, or hormone resistance 
    • Inflammation markers like quinolinate and melatonin and how they can help assess immune health 
    • How hormonal fluctuations alter immune responses, leading to symptoms like itchy ears, joint pain, and autoimmunity

    Show Notes 

    Check out our DUTCH Education Hub for more resources on perimenopause, menopause, stress, and inflammation! 

    Become a DUTCH Provider today to learn how the DUTCH Test can profoundly change the lives of your patients. 

    54 min
  • Menopausal Hair Loss & Innovations in Hair Restoration

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    In this episode, Dr. Alan Bauman and Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton discuss the complexities of hair restoration, particularly focusing on menopausal hair loss in women. 

    This discussion also explores:

    • Understanding female pattern hair loss
    • Emotional and hormonal factors affecting hair health
    • Innovative therapies that can aid in hair restoration, including stem cell therapy
    • The importance of nutrition and stress management in hair health
    • How personalized treatment plans can help effectively address hair loss in women

    Show Notes:

    Learn more about Dr. Bauman and follow him on Instagram @dralanbauman!

    Become a DUTCH Provider to gain access to comprehensive patient reports, peer-reviewed and validated research, and expert clinical support.

    1 hr 2 min

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