Clear & Loud with Josh Harris

The Holy Mess of Pastoral Transitions (with Matt Davis)


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Leaving a job is never easy. It becomes even more complicated when your job is wrapped up in a spiritual tradition. Matt Davis, served as a Teaching and Executive Pastor for more than two decades in Orange County, California. After going through his own pastoral transition out of ministry, Matt learned the difficulty of this season. He helped start an organization that assists pastors who are transitioning out of pastoral ministry. 

Now churches and nonprofits are hiring Matt and his team to help give coaching, counseling, and career guidance to people whose lives have been upended by leaving their pastoral role. 

Interview Highlights: 

  • Are churches uniquely bad at firing and transitioning people? 

  • What makes a pastoral transition extra painful compared to other careers? 

  • Why do so many pastors need leave their church community after they change their role? 

    • How does having your personal identity being wrapped up in your professional identity affect you when it’s time to step aside? 

    • How does all this impact your family? 

    • Learn More: 

      Website: www.pastoraltransitions.com 

      Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pastoraltransitions/

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