Today’s episode is with Rick Doblin Ph.D., the Founder and President of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS). He received his doctorate in Public Policy from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, where he wrote his dissertation on the regulation of the medical uses of psychedelics and marijuana and his Master’s thesis on a survey of oncologists about smoked marijuana vs. the oral THC pill in nausea control for cancer patients.

He founded MAPS in 1986, and currently resides in Boston with his wife and puppy, with three empty rooms from his children who have all graduated college and begun their life journeys. Learn more about Rick by listening to his Origin Story and watching his TED Talk.

We talk about the following and so much more:

✅ Why he thinks psychedelics and plant medicine are important?

✅ His perspective on the spiritual connection to plant medicine and psychedelics and whether there is a difference if it comes from nature or if it's from a lab

✅ What is MAPS, and what is the mission of MAPS?

✅ How he navigates the challenges of destigmatizing these substances and promoting their potential therapeutic benefits

✅What his thoughts are on the different types of psychedelics – and if there are any that he prefers for some scenarios over others

✅ His thoughts on your 2019 TED talk, “The future of psychedelic-assisted therapy” and if your perspective changed at all post-pandemic?

✅ The experiment on the use of ayahuasca / MDMA between Jews and Arabs, and what the outcome was like

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