The No Contact Club: Healing From A Narcissistic Mother

The No Contact Club: Healing From A Narcissistic Mother

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  • Episode Fourteen: Hoovering
    Welcome back to The No Contact Club. This week, Chloe and Porsha discuss the topic of hoovering - the final aspect of the narcissist's cycle - and what it looks like. 
    If you want to send some feedback or just say hi, email us at [email protected].  If you need support, please see the numbers below.
    Black Lives Matter: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/
    NEW ZEALAND:  Lifeline: 0800 543354 Depression Helpline: 0800 111 757 (Text 4202)
    AUSTRALIA:  Lifeline Crisis Support: 13 11 14 Beyond Blue: Depression and anxiety support: 1300 22 46 36 Rape & Domestic Violence Services: 1800 737 732 Men's Line: 1300 78 99 78 Headspace: Youth Mental Health Foundation: see headspace.org.au for your local centre.
    USA:  Distress & Lifeline: 1800 273 8255 Crisis Text Line: text HOME to 741 741 Domestic Violence Helpline: 1800 799 7233 Victim Connect: support for victims of crime: 855 484 2846 MTC program: maketheconnection.net/resources/spread-the-word
    UK:  Mind: mental health support: 0300 123 3393 SANE: mental health support: 0300 304 7000 Samaritans support network: 116 123 National Stalking Helpline: 0808 802 0300
    CANADA:  For a list of Canadian crisis centres: https://thelifelinecanada.ca/help/call/
    References:
    https://www.healthline.com/health/hoovering#:~:text=While%20easy%20to%20confuse%20with,a%20past%20history%20of%20toxicity.
    https://blogs.psychcentral.com/relationships/2019/02/5-reasons-a-narcissist-engages-in-hoovering/
    https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/hoover-maneuver-the-dirty-secret-of-emotional-abuse-0219154
    https://medium.com/@OwnYourReality/hoovering-how-narcissists-try-to-suck-you-back-in-fe46bc380c2c
    29 min
  • Episode Thirteen: When The Narcissist Discards You

    This week, Porsha and Chloe discuss a further aspect to the narcissist's cycle: the discard.

    If you want to send some feedback or just say hi, email us at [email protected].  If you need support, please see the numbers below.  

    Black Lives Matter: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/   

    NEW ZEALAND: 

    Lifeline: 0800 543354
    Depression Helpline: 0800 111 757 (Text 4202)   

    AUSTRALIA: 

    Lifeline Crisis Support: 13 11 14
    Beyond Blue: Depression and anxiety support: 1300 22 46 36
    Rape & Domestic Violence Services: 1800 737 732
    Men's Line: 1300 78 99 78
    Headspace: Youth Mental Health Foundation: see headspace.org.au for your local centre.    

    USA: 

    Distress & Lifeline: 1800 273 8255
    Crisis Text Line: text HOME to 741 741
    Domestic Violence Helpline: 1800 799 7233
    Victim Connect: support for victims of crime: 855 484 2846
    MTC program: maketheconnection.net/resources/spread-the-word    

    UK: 

    Mind: mental health support: 0300 123 3393
    SANE: mental health support: 0300 304 7000
    Samaritans support network: 116 123
    National Stalking Helpline: 0808 802 0300    

    CANADA: 

    For a list of Canadian crisis centres: https://thelifelinecanada.ca/help/call/ 

    References:

    • https://www.insider.com/phrases-narcissists-use-2018-8#:~:text=The%20discard%20phase,found%20someone%20new%20to%20abuse.
    • https://narcwise.com/2019/02/15/signs-narcissist-preparing-discard/
    • https://www.businessinsider.com/whether-a-narcissist-discards-someone-permanently-depends-on-3-factors-2017-11?IR=T
    • https://narcissistabusesupport.com/narcissist-discard-phase-revenge-peace/
    • https://medium.com/narcissistic-abuse-rehab/why-do-narcissists-discard-their-own-children-f05d10006a2
    • https://blogs.psychcentral.com/recovering-narcissist/2019/04/5-manipulation-tactics-narcissistic-parents-use-to-control-their-adult-children/
    • https://beentheregotout.com/breaking-up-and-the-discard-how-a-narcissist-acts-at-the-end-of-a-relationship/?gclid=CjwKCAjwps75BRAcEiwAEiACMY3DpHZWiXjk7wdzFGNFKMbtUOejDgxF9iKkcPqnt_E4HHH0taTUpRoCPVwQAvD_BwE
    • 35 min
    • Episode Twelve: The Narcissist's Cycle of Abuse
      This week, Chloe and Porsha are talking about the cycle that narcissists use to keep you coming back.
      If you want to send some feedback or just say hi, email us at [email protected].  If you need support, please see the numbers below. 
      Black Lives Matter: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/  
      NEW ZEALAND: 
      Lifeline: 0800 543354
      Depression Helpline: 0800 111 757 (Text 4202)  
      AUSTRALIA: 
      Lifeline Crisis Support: 13 11 14
      Beyond Blue: Depression and anxiety support: 1300 22 46 36
      Rape & Domestic Violence Services: 1800 737 732
      Men's Line: 1300 78 99 78
      Headspace: Youth Mental Health Foundation: see headspace.org.au for your local centre.   
      USA: 
      Distress & Lifeline: 1800 273 8255
      Crisis Text Line: text HOME to 741 741
      Domestic Violence Helpline: 1800 799 7233
      Victim Connect: support for victims of crime: 855 484 2846
      MTC program: maketheconnection.net/resources/spread-the-word   
      UK: 
      Mind: mental health support: 0300 123 3393
      SANE: mental health support: 0300 304 7000
      Samaritans support network: 116 123
      National Stalking Helpline: 0808 802 0300   
      CANADA: 
      For a list of Canadian crisis centres: https://thelifelinecanada.ca/help/call/
      References:
      https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/idealize-devalue-discard-the-dizzying-cycle-of-narcissism-0325154#:~:text=The%20relationship%20cycle%20typical%20of,idealization%2C%20devaluing%2C%20and%20discarding.
      https://neuroinstincts.com/neuroscience-behind-idealize-devalue-and-discard-rhonda-freeman/
      http://narcissist-sociopath-awareness.com/idealize-devalue-discard/
      https://fairytaleshadows.com/outsmart-the-narcissist-a-guide-to-breaking-the-idealize-devalue-discard-hoover-cycle/
      https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/idolise-devalue-discard-the-3-phases-of-narcissistic-abuse-part-1/
      36 min
    • Episode Eleven: Parental Alienation
      This week Porsha and Chloe are talking about the process of parental alienation, and discuss the impact of this on their lives.
      If you want to send some feedback or just say hi, email us at [email protected].  If you need support, please see the numbers below.  
      Black Lives Matter: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/   
      NEW ZEALAND: 
      Lifeline: 0800 543354
      Depression Helpline: 0800 111 757 (Text 4202)  
      AUSTRALIA: 
      Lifeline Crisis Support: 13 11 14
      Beyond Blue: Depression and anxiety support: 1300 22 46 36
      Rape & Domestic Violence Services: 1800 737 732
      Men's Line: 1300 78 99 78
      Headspace: Youth Mental Health Foundation: see headspace.org.au for your local centre.  
      USA: 
      Distress & Lifeline: 1800 273 8255
      Crisis Text Line: text HOME to 741 741
      Domestic Violence Helpline: 1800 799 7233
      Victim Connect: support for victims of crime: 855 484 2846
      MTC program: maketheconnection.net/resources/spread-the-word  
      UK: 
      Mind: mental health support: 0300 123 3393
      SANE: mental health support: 0300 304 7000
      Samaritans support network: 116 123
      National Stalking Helpline: 0808 802 0300   
      CANADA: 
      For a list of Canadian crisis centres: https://thelifelinecanada.ca/help/call/
      Resources:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_alienation_syndrome
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_alienation
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/103440478/parental-alienation-like-modern-day-kidnapping
      https://www.psychologytoday.com/nz/blog/co-parenting-after-divorce/201304/the-impact-parental-alienation-children
      http://thefamilymatterscentre.co.nz/parental-alienation/
      42 min
    • Episode Ten: Boundaries
      This week, Porsha and Chloe talk about boundaries: what they are, how to set them, and some examples of someone stepping over your boundaries.
      If you want to send some feedback or just say hi, email us at [email protected].  If you need support, please see the numbers below.  
      Black Lives Matter: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/  
      NEW ZEALAND: 
      Lifeline: 0800 543354
      Depression Helpline: 0800 111 757 (Text 4202) 
      AUSTRALIA: 
      Lifeline Crisis Support: 13 11 14
      Beyond Blue: Depression and anxiety support: 1300 22 46 36
      Rape & Domestic Violence Services: 1800 737 732
      Men's Line: 1300 78 99 78
      Headspace: Youth Mental Health Foundation: see headspace.org.au for your local centre.  
      USA: 
      Distress & Lifeline: 1800 273 8255
      Crisis Text Line: text HOME to 741 741
      Domestic Violence Helpline: 1800 799 7233
      Victim Connect: support for victims of crime: 855 484 2846
      MTC program: maketheconnection.net/resources/spread-the-word  
      UK: 
      Mind: mental health support: 0300 123 3393
      SANE: mental health support: 0300 304 7000
      Samaritans support network: 116 123
      National Stalking Helpline: 0808 802 0300  
      CANADA:  For a list of Canadian crisis centres: https://thelifelinecanada.ca/help/call/
      References:
      https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/narcissism-demystified/202006/7-ways-set-boundaries-narcissistic-people#:~:text=Narcissists%20use%20scrutiny%20or%20intimidation,has%20to%20use%20against%20you.
      https://www.psychologytoday.com/nz/blog/women-autism-spectrum-disorder/202003/3-ways-narcissistic-parent-will-violate-your-boundaries
      https://narcwise.com/2018/11/03/narcissists-love-boundaries/
      43 min
    • Episode Nine: From Victim to Survivor
      This week, Porsha and Chloe discuss the idea of “playing the victim”, being a victim, and taking your power back by becoming a survivor. If you want to send some feedback or just say hi, email us at [email protected]. 
      If you need support, please see the numbers below. 
      Black Lives Matter: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/ 
      NEW ZEALAND: 
      Lifeline: 0800 543354
      Depression Helpline: 0800 111 757 (Text 4202)
      AUSTRALIA: 
      Lifeline Crisis Support: 13 11 14
      Beyond Blue: Depression and anxiety support: 1300 22 46 36
      Rape & Domestic Violence Services: 1800 737 732
      Men's Line: 1300 78 99 78
      Headspace: Youth Mental Health Foundation: see headspace.org.au for your local centre. 
      USA: 
      Distress & Lifeline: 1800 273 8255
      Crisis Text Line: text HOME to 741 741
      Domestic Violence Helpline: 1800 799 7233
      Victim Connect: support for victims of crime: 855 484 2846
      MTC program: maketheconnection.net/resources/spread-the-word 
      UK: 
      Mind: mental health support: 0300 123 3393
      SANE: mental health support: 0300 304 7000
      Samaritans support network: 116 123
      National Stalking Helpline: 0808 802 0300 
      CANADA: 
      For a list of Canadian crisis centres: https://thelifelinecanada.ca/help/call/
      References: https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/victim-survivor-thriver-trauma-stages/
      https://optionb.org/build-resilience/video/from-victim-to-survivor
      https://www.griefrecoverymethod.com/blog/2017/12/moving-victim-survivor
      https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unraveling-the-mindset-of-victimhood/
      40 min
    • Episode Eight: Narcissist Arguing Tactics
      Today, Porsha and Chloe discuss the different ways a narcissistic mother will try and argue, along with a description of the grey rock method for responding to the tactics mentioned.
      If you want to send some feedback or just say hi, email us at [email protected]. 
      If you need support, please see the numbers below. 
      Black Lives Matter: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/ 
      NEW ZEALAND: 
      Lifeline: 0800 543354
      Depression Helpline: 0800 111 757 (Text 4202)
      AUSTRALIA: 
      Lifeline Crisis Support: 13 11 14
      Beyond Blue: Depression and anxiety support: 1300 22 46 36
      Rape & Domestic Violence Services: 1800 737 732
      Men's Line: 1300 78 99 78
      Headspace: Youth Mental Health Foundation: see headspace.org.au for your local centre. 
      USA: 
      Distress & Lifeline: 1800 273 8255
      Crisis Text Line: text HOME to 741 741
      Domestic Violence Helpline: 1800 799 7233
      Victim Connect: support for victims of crime: 855 484 2846
      MTC program: maketheconnection.net/resources/spread-the-word 
      UK: 
      Mind: mental health support: 0300 123 3393
      SANE: mental health support: 0300 304 7000
      Samaritans support network: 116 123
      National Stalking Helpline: 0808 802 0300 
      CANADA: 
      For a list of Canadian crisis centres: https://thelifelinecanada.ca/help/call/
      References:
      https://www.e-counseling.com/mental-health/what-is-the-grey-rock-method/#:~:text=The%20grey%20rock%20method%20is%20a%20practice%20where%20an%20individual,to%20grow%20uninterested%20and%20bored.
      https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/toxic-relationships/201911/the-price-and-payoff-gray-rock-strategy
      https://www.purewow.com/wellness/gray-rock-method
      https://www.psychologytoday.com/nz/blog/eating-mindfully/201804/how-survive-narcissistic-mother
      https://psychcentral.com/blog/coping-when-you-have-a-narcissistic-parent/
      https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-autism-spectrum-disorder/202003/3-ways-narcissistic-parent-will-violate-your-boundaries
      https://pro.psychcentral.com/recovery-expert/2019/08/setting-boundaries-with-a-narcissist/
      https://blogs.psychcentral.com/narcissism-decoded/2017/06/11-ways-to-set-boundaries-with-narcissists/
      https://www.healthline.com/health/how-to-deal-with-a-narcissist#move-on
      30 min
    • Episode Seven: Alcoholism
      Porsha is back! Chloe and Porsha discuss alcoholism within the family dynamic and how addiction often co-occurs with narcissism.
      If you want to send some feedback or just say hi, email us at [email protected]. If you need support, please see the numbers below.
      Help/Support specific to alcoholism:
      https://bottled-up.com/members/help-and-support-for-families-of-problem-drinkers/?gclid=CjwKCAjw88v3BRBFEiwApwLevTpwBtIXxm09Ad6fihGCYjOHl43eoaGrbzW1dqZDPbHPtdm_67q3mBoCjA8QAvD_BwE
      https://alcoholdrughelp.org.nz/helpline/
      https://www.verywellmind.com/information-for-families-of-alcoholics-63317
      https://al-anon.org/
      https://theretreatnz.org.nz/
      https://www.health.govt.nz/your-health/services-and-support/health-care-services/help-alcohol-and-drug-problems/help-families-whanau-friends
      https://www.fairview.org/patient-education/84319
      Black Lives Matter: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/
      NEW ZEALAND:
      Lifeline: 0800 543354
      Depression Helpline: 0800 111 757 (Text 4202)
      AUSTRALIA:
      Lifeline Crisis Support: 13 11 14
      Beyond Blue: Depression and anxiety support: 1300 22 46 36
      Rape & Domestic Violence Services: 1800 737 732
      Men's Line: 1300 78 99 78
      Headspace: Youth Mental Health Foundation: see headspace.org.au for your local centre .
      USA:
      Distress & Lifeline: 1800 273 8255
      Crisis Text Line: text HOME to 741 741
      Domestic Violence Helpline: 1800 799 7233
      Victim Connect: support for victims of crime: 855 484 2846
      MTC program: maketheconnection.net/resources/spread-the-word
      UK:
      Mind: mental health support: 0300 123 3393
      SANE: mental health support: 0300 304 7000
      Samaritans support network: 116 123
      National Stalking Helpline: 0808 802 0300
      CANADA:
      For a list of Canadian crisis centres: https://thelifelinecanada.ca/help/call/
      References:
      https://blogs.psychcentral.com/narcissism-decoded/2017/07/11-ways-narcissists-and-alcoholics-are-similar/
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism_in_family_systems
      https://openrepository.aut.ac.nz/bitstream/handle/10292/10217/LaurenceK.pdf?sequence=4&isAllowed=y
      https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/157163#definition
      46 min
    • Episode Six: Reading Your Emails

      Chloe is solo this week as she reads out some of the emails they've received.

      If you want to send some feedback or just say hi, email us at [email protected]. If you need support, please see the numbers below.

      NEW ZEALAND:

      Lifeline: 0800 543354
      Depression Helpline: 0800 111 757 (Text 4202)

      AUSTRALIA:
      Lifeline Crisis Support: 13 11 14
      Beyond Blue: Depression and anxiety support: 1300 22 46 36
      Rape & Domestic Violence Services: 1800 737 732
      Men's Line: 1300 78 99 78
      Headspace: Youth Mental Health Foundation: see headspace.org.au for your local centre .

      USA:
      Distress & Lifeline: 1800 273 8255
      Crisis Text Line: text HOME to 741 741
      Domestic Violence Helpline: 1800 799 7233
      Victim Connect: support for victims of crime: 855 484 2846
      MTC program: maketheconnection.net/resources/spread-the-word

      UK:
      Mind: mental health support: 0300 123 3393
      SANE: mental health support: 0300 304 7000
      Samaritans support network: 116 123
      National Stalking Helpline: 0808 802 0300

      CANADA:
      For a list of Canadian crisis centres: https://thelifelinecanada.ca/help/call/

      25 min
    • Episode Five: Gaslighting

      This week, Chloe is joined by her wife Ellen as Porsha is off sick. There's some talk about books and then they get into gaslighting and the different ways it can be used.

      If you want to send some feedback or just say hi, email us at [email protected]. If you need support, please see the numbers below.

      NEW ZEALAND:

      Lifeline: 0800 543354
      Depression Helpline: 0800 111 757 (Text 4202)

      AUSTRALIA:
      Lifeline Crisis Support: 13 11 14
      Beyond Blue: Depression and anxiety support: 1300 22 46 36
      Rape & Domestic Violence Services: 1800 737 732
      Men's Line: 1300 78 99 78
      Headspace: Youth Mental Health Foundation: see headspace.org.au for your local centre .

      USA:
      Distress & Lifeline: 1800 273 8255
      Crisis Text Line: text HOME to 741 741
      Domestic Violence Helpline: 1800 799 7233
      Victim Connect: support for victims of crime: 855 484 2846
      MTC program: maketheconnection.net/resources/spread-the-word

      UK:
      Mind: mental health support: 0300 123 3393
      SANE: mental health support: 0300 304 7000
      Samaritans support network: 116 123
      National Stalking Helpline: 0808 802 0300

      CANADA:
      For a list of Canadian crisis centres: https://thelifelinecanada.ca/help/call/

      References:

      • http://www.freefromtoxic.com/2015/05/13/the-4-most-common-narc-sadistic-triangulation-tactics/?fbclid=IwAR2SD4xe7DQv3LX2aoFkMIkEtdWJvFKXrjxlsMzeqlFHwiOytqm18toeZ2s
      • https://blogs.psychcentral.com/recovering-narcissist/2019/03/7-gaslighting-phrases-malignant-narcissists-sociopaths-and-psychopaths-use-translated/
      • https://www.psychologytoday.com/nz/basics/gaslighting
      • https://www.marriage.com/advice/parenting/gaslighting-parents/
      • https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/tech-support/201607/why-its-so-hard-see-form-childhood-abuse
      • https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/327080#short-term-effects
      • https://www.psychologytoday.com/nz/blog/the-narcissist-in-your-life/202004/5-things-children-narcissists-wish-you-would-stop-saying
      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
      • 34 min

      About The No Contact Club: Healing From A Narcissistic Mother

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      Two sisters from New Zealand discuss life after going no contact with their narcissistic mother. Chloe and Porsha will give you insight into how to spot a narcissist and how to heal.

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