This week John takes on an acronym from the world of tech: TCO—Total Cost of Ownership. Patrick muses about what it says about us when we ride in yucky weather, and why we might choose to do it.

This week we're talking about all the cool, surprising and unexpected places the bike has taken us over the years. It might not be where you think. All that and pair of Paceline Picks, and that's today's show.

This week John talks crashing and differentiates it from falling. They are different things, he assures us. Patrick suggests that whether you're happy about the election or not, the bike is a balm we all need right now.

This week John talks about how some shops are beginning to reimagine what it means to be a bike shop. Patrick takes on the question of why, after so many years devoted to road cycling, he began putting so much energy into mountain biking.

This week John considers his bad choices and whether they were really even choices. Patrick discusses his experience following a bunch of kids around at a local park as part of a program called the Blue Tailed Skinks.

This week John talks work, as in working in the bike biz. Patrick looks at how women hucked their way through the glass ceiling and into the Red Bull Rampage and rider Robin Goomes went home six figures to the good.

This week John considers evolution and extinction as viewed through the lens of bikes and e-bikes. And he asks, "Will bikes survive?" Patrick discusses his experience at a retreat for NICA coaches.

This week John examines Tadej Pogacar's win at the World Championship Road Race last weekend and tries not to ask the question any knowledgeable cyclist ends up asking. Patrick considers bike lights and how your speed and when you're riding influence just how bright a light you need.

John and Patrick begin the show by remembering Bob Parlee, the Boston-based frame builder of custom carbon fiber frames who passed away due to cancer. John then analyzes how because bike work takes longer now, he does less of it. Patrick considers how confidence can influence our riding and our lives.

This week we discuss the evolution of roadie culture in the wake of the blood doping era and the "invention" of gravel bikes. Then we talk about all the good things that come from taking part in trail days, before finishing off with Paceline Picks.