Porn, Betrayal, Sex and the Experts — PBSE

The PBSE/Dare to Connect Approach vs 12-Step Support Groups


Listen Later

In PBSE Episode 232, Mark & Steve respond to a listener's experience and questions with regard to the approach to Betrayal Trauma healing that PBSE and Dare to Connect take, vs. the experience in 12-Step groups. Here's what the partner of a porn/sex addict submitted to PBSE—

Is it me or are the approaches of partner-oriented 12-step fellowships the opposite of the recovery approach taken in PBSE podcasts? The podcasts are all about connection and boundaries. The partner’s 12-step fellowship I attend feels all about ignoring your partner's actions and not letting his actions hurt you. And doing what makes you happy? So it’s about disconnection…. Right? Why is it that they (12-Step groups) are popular on both reddit and your podcasts? Am I seeing this wrong?? Or is there something about those 12 step fellowships that I don’t understand??

On the surface, the approach in PBSE/Dare to Connect vs. 12-Step for partners, can in some ways seem very different. However, they actually are the same fundamental approach, but from two different directions!

Here are essentially the two questions/observations about 12-Step, presented by this betrayed partner—

“It’s all about ignoring your partner’s actions… right?”

- NO! It’s about SURRENDERING your partner’s actions, focusing on yourself (including your trauma & pain) and what you CAN control, which is boundaries built first around your own safety, needs and wants, and then incorporated properly into a committed relationship. This allows for personal healing and the most optimal functioning of the relationship. As recovery and healing progress, a partner uses healthy boundaries to create safety and expectations for what is needed for the rebuilding of trust and moving toward deeper connection.

“It’s all about disconnection…. Right?”

- It's about establishing and holding boundaries around the needs of the self FIRST and learning how to fill your own bucket in healthy ways.

- Depending on how early one is in healing and recovery/how deep the enmeshment trends run in each individual/in the relationship, MAINTAINING LONG-TERM HEALTHY CONNECTION SOMETIMES MEANS SHORT-TERM DISCONNECTION.

- Once personal healing, healthy boundary setting & holding, and healthy sovereignty/independence are happening in a sustainable way, it allows us to authentically connect with those in the world around us, INCLUDING our addict partners.

- Mark and his partner, and Steve and his partner have the best marriages they've ever had, BECAUSE they don’t "need" each other (aren't "needy") the way that they used to. They each work to stand emotionally on their own two feet, and support each other wherever and whenever they can, WITHOUT taking ownership of the other person’s “stuff."


Learn more about Mark and Steve's revolutionary online porn/sexual addiction recovery and betrayal trauma healing program at—daretoconnectnow.com

Find out more about Steve Moore at:  Ascension Counseling

Learn more about Mark Kastleman at:  Reclaim Counseling Services

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Porn, Betrayal, Sex and the Experts — PBSEBy Steve Moore & Mark Kastleman

  • 4.5
  • 4.5
  • 4.5
  • 4.5
  • 4.5

4.5

157 ratings


More shows like Porn, Betrayal, Sex and the Experts — PBSE

View all
The Save The Marriage Podcast by Lee H. Baucom, Ph.D.

The Save The Marriage Podcast

392 Listeners

Betrayal Trauma Recovery - BTR.ORG by Anne Blythe, M.Ed.

Betrayal Trauma Recovery - BTR.ORG

1,403 Listeners

Healing Broken Trust In Your Marriage After Infidelity by Brad and Morgan Robinson

Healing Broken Trust In Your Marriage After Infidelity

745 Listeners

Pure Desire Podcast by Pure Desire Ministries

Pure Desire Podcast

718 Listeners

The Addicted Mind Podcast by Duane Osterlind, LMFT

The Addicted Mind Podcast

616 Listeners

From Crisis to Connection - with Geoff & Jody Steurer by Geoff & Jody Steurer

From Crisis to Connection - with Geoff & Jody Steurer

197 Listeners

Helping Couples Heal Podcast by Marnie Breecker

Helping Couples Heal Podcast

438 Listeners

Husband Material by Drew Boa

Husband Material

227 Listeners

Therapy Brothers by Reclaimed Heart

Therapy Brothers

324 Listeners

Heal from Infidelity by Andrea Giles

Heal from Infidelity

327 Listeners

Redemptive Living Radio by Redemptive Living Radio

Redemptive Living Radio

204 Listeners

Breaking Free from Narcissistic Abuse by Kerry McAvoy, Ph.D.

Breaking Free from Narcissistic Abuse

215 Listeners

Rikki and Jimmy on Relationships by Jimmy Knowles and Rikki Cloos

Rikki and Jimmy on Relationships

258 Listeners

Betrayal Recovery Radio: The Official Podcast of APSATS by Betrayal Recovery Radio

Betrayal Recovery Radio: The Official Podcast of APSATS

35 Listeners