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In this episode,  Jonathan L. talks with guest Kaylene, who shares her powerful story of her betrayal trauma recovery journey after 20 years of struggle. They delve into the concept that recovery requires patience and time, illustrating how small, consistent actions over time can rebuild trust and promote healing. Kaylene emphasizes the importance of self-care, surrendering the need to control time, and using the healing process to empower oneself. This episode underscores the necessity of time in both individual and relational healing processes associated with addiction and betrayal trauma.

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