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What makes the Pikes Peak Marathon the most enduring marathon in the U.S., even outlasting the Boston Marathon during the COVID-19 pandemic? Join us as we unravel the rich tapestry of its history with Mark Tatum, a legend of the race himself. You’ll discover why this race, starting from its early ascent in the 1930s to becoming a full marathon in 1958, has captured the spirit of mountain running like no other. From quirky traditions to the evolution of gear from leather shoes to modern athletic wear, this episode promises a treasure trove of anecdotes.
We also shine the spotlight on the extraordinary athletes who’ve made their mark on Pikes Peak, such as Matt Carpenter and Kilian Jornet. Listen to tales of remarkable resilience and record-breaking feats, infused with the vibrant traditions brought by the Jemez Pueblo runners. Get an insider’s view of the pivotal moments and controversies, like the 2003 disqualification and Kilian’s debut race in America, which have shaped the race's legacy. Ever wondered how the race evolved to attract elite runners worldwide? Our discussion reveals the intense competitiveness that began in 2003 with its inclusion in the Skyrunner series.
As we approach the centennial milestone of the Pikes Peak Marathon, we reflect on the future, celebrating the camaraderie and passion that define this extraordinary event. Mark Tatum shares his personal experiences and insights, enhancing our understanding of what makes this race a true test of endurance and spirit. From improving race coverage with advanced tech to highlighting mountain running legends like Courtney DeWalter and Joseph Gray, this episode is a riveting journey into the heart of America’s Ultimate Challenge.
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Ever wondered what it takes to conquer one of the toughest marathons on the planet? Discover the secrets behind two-time Pike's Peak Marathon champion, Jonathan Aziz, as he shares his captivating journey from a multi-sport athlete in upstate New York to an elite trail runner. You'll gain a unique perspective on the mental stamina required for such grueling races and the personal growth that comes with overcoming these epic challenges. Jon also offers a peek into his personal life, including his upbringing and some amusing travel stories, making this a must-listen for any running enthusiast.
Balancing academics and athletics is no small feat, and Jon’s story is a testament to that intricate dance. We delve (there has to be a better word) into his time at Syracuse University, followed by a rigorous yet rewarding experience at CU Boulder where he pursued a PhD in aerospace engineering. Listen as Jon breaks down his complex research in a way that even non-engineers will appreciate, and learn about his fulfilling career at the Aerospace Corporation in Colorado Springs. This chapter provides an engaging exploration of how he managed to stay on top of his game both academically and athletically, offering valuable insights for anyone juggling multiple high-stakes endeavors.
What does it take to qualify for the Olympic Marathon Trials? Jon gives us the inside scoop on the intense training regimen, the highs and lows, and the unforgettable moment of crossing the finish line at the California International Marathon in 2017 with a time of 2:17:13. Alongside tales of international competitions and tactical strategies for trail running, Jon opens up about balancing career and family, the nuances of social media in sports, and even his thoughts on AI and extraterrestrial life. Whether you’re here for the running tips, the aerospace insights, or the light-hearted banter, this episode promises a well-rounded, engaging experience you won't want to miss.
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Michelino Sunseri, the North Face athlete who just shattered the Fastest Known Time (FKT) on the Grand Teton, joins us for a thrilling episode. Discover the journey of this extraordinary runner, from his early days setting records at the RUT to his life-changing victories at races like Broken Arrow 46k and SpeedGoat 50K. Michelino opens up about his Italian roots, growing up, and his post-pandemic move to Driggs, Idaho. His unwavering spirit and infectious passion for the mountains will leave you inspired to pursue your own outdoor adventures.
We also take a lighthearted yet profound look at the world of trail running, unraveling Michelino’s transition from mountain trails to the concrete jungles of college life. Listen to amusing stories like running home from bars after losing a driver's license and the influence of an unconventional high school coach who emphasized trail running. Michelino shares his journey through ultra-marathons, the mentorship of Peter Fane, and his exhilarating races against elite competitors like Hayden Hawks and David Sinclair. The chapter reveals the mental fortitude and competitive spirit that drive Michelino's success in mountain running.
On top of epic running tales, we explore technical skiing and outdoor gear innovations, highlighting the creative genius of Kyle Siegel’s belt design. This episode also delves into wildlife encounters, from grizzly bear run-ins to the rich fauna of Wyoming. Finally, we venture into cosmic debates about aliens, living in a simulation, and the Mandela Effect. Don’t miss our preview of the elite athlete press conference and live race commentary at Pike's Peak Week. This episode is an adventure-packed blend of inspiration, humor, and a deep appreciation for the great outdoors.
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Ready to conquer one of the most challenging trail races in America? Join us for an exhilarating deep dive into the RUT 28K race in Big Sky, Montana! I'm James Lauriello, teaming up with the amazing Jennifer Yeaman, as we bring you an inside look at the race's grueling 17-mile course, soaring elevations, and the nearly 4,000 participants ready to face it. From the rugged terrain to the grizzly bears that call it home, we cover all the thrilling elements that make this race truly unique. Plus, could the concurrent Golden Trail Series shake up the field this year? We share our thoughts.
Who will dominate the men's field this year? We put the spotlight on top athletes like Rob Krar, Scott Patterson, and Eli Hemming, dissecting their chances in light of injuries, altitude challenges, and past performances. Our analysis doesn't stop there—we also uncover the enigmatic presence of competitors like Cam Smith and Patty O'Leary, while weighing in on the strengths of Griffin Briley, Tate Knight, and Jackson Cole. Get ready for some bold predictions on who'll cross that finish line in the top five.
Turning to the women's field, we delve into the compelling stories of leading contenders like Tabor Hemming, Janelle Links, Claire Rhodes, and Bailey. With injuries, race rust, and recovery times all in play, we explore how these factors could influence race outcomes. The women's race promises to be a tightly fought battle with no clear favorites, adding to the excitement. As we wrap up, we look ahead to the upcoming mountain race, and extend our best wishes to everyone gearing up for the Pikes Marathon. Don't miss out on our next episode—stay tuned!
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Ready to uncover the secrets of the Mammoth Trail Fest 26K, the final showdown in the Golden Trail World Series? Join James Lauriello and Nick Tusa on the Steep Stuff Podcast as we promise an exhilarating preview of the Mammoth Trail Fest. We reflect on the race's unique format, its four diverse distances, and the intense pace that defines it. Relive the drama from last year's event where the high speed and tricky course markings had runners losing their way. Expect in-depth discussions about top contenders like Patrick, Phil Amon, Taylor Stack, and standout female athletes Madalena, Judith, and the enigmatic Meow Meow.
In our spotlight segment, we turn our attention to the elite and emerging talent from the Western region. Learn about the remarkable stories of Kieran Nae, Brian Whitfield, Taylor Stack, and Cole Campbell. From Campbell's stellar European performance to Stack's consistent presence on the tracks, we cover it all. Plus, get the inside scoop on strategic rivalries between racers like Patrick Kip and Diego, and discover potential dark horses such as Jacob Dewey, whose training times suggest an imminent breakout.
Lastly, we explore the broader competitive landscape, focusing on both male and female trail runners who are making significant strides. From Remy's potential for a top 10 finish to the return of Andy Wacker and the legendary status of Chris Vargo, there's no shortage of compelling narratives. The female division is equally thrilling with Tabor's improvements, Anna Gibson's record-breaking capabilities, and Judith Wider's seasoned experience. We also highlight sleeper threats like Jade Bellsburg and Rachel Drake, setting the stage for an exhilarating race. Wrapping up, we reflect on the season, express our gratitude, and look forward to future episodes filled with more racing excitement.
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What if you could experience the thrill of a race through the eyes of an elite athlete? Join us on this episode of the Steep Stuff Podcast as we sit down with Nick Tusa, who's gearing up for the Headlands 27K race in Marin County. Nick shares his rigorous preparation for Rut Week and the excitement of tackling a course with 4,000 feet of vertical gain and smooth, fast trails. We also explore how the innovative race format, separating men's and women's races on different days, could lead to record-breaking times and a more enjoyable experience for all participants.
Ever wondered who to look out for in a nail-biting race? We dive into our predictions and analysis for the Golden Trail Race, spotlighting athletes like Philemon and Brian Whitfield on the men's side and Anna Gibson, Ali Ostrander, and Alicia Vargo on the women's side. The competition is fierce, and with no clear favorites, the race promises to be an open and thrilling affair. We also share insights on standout performers like Patrick and El Housine, who are hungry for victory and poised for a stellar showing.
The episode wraps up with an in-depth look at the Mammoth Race, where we track the journey of emerging talents such as Patrick Kipaniego, Roberto De Lorenzi, and Mason Copey. We break down their strengths and recent performances while highlighting other formidable competitors like Christian Allen, Hawk Call, and Tyler McCandless. Plus, we give you a sneak peek into the future of trail running technology, discussing the potential for live streaming from the toughest terrains. Don't miss this episode packed with expert analysis, predictions, and cutting-edge insights into the world of trail running.
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What happens when a chemical engineer from the UK transforms into a mountain athlete in Boulder? Join us on the Steep Stuff Podcast as we chat with Meg Cook, who shares her fascinating journey from netball courts in the UK to tackling the rugged trails of Boulder. Prepare to be inspired as Meg reveals her ambitious plans for the 2024 running season, including races like the mountain marathon and the Meet the Minotaur sky race. Discover how her netball background uniquely influences her approach to trail running and her experience joining the La Sportiva group run.
Ever wondered how elite athletes strategize for grueling races like Mount Marathon? Meg Cook lifts the curtain on her race strategies, discussing everything from transitioning out of Schemo season to managing injuries and competing in high-stakes events. She offers insider tips on navigating unmarked courses, balancing recovery, and the unique challenges of mixed-gender waves in technical downhill sections. If you've ever been curious about the complexities of elite sky running, this conversation is packed with valuable insights.
But that's not all. We dive deep into the qualifications for Skimo national teams and the comparisons between British and American athletes. Meg shares the physical and mental adjustments required for transitioning from Skimo to trail running and offers a unique perspective on the cultural differences between Great Britain and North America. Stick around as we explore the role of AI in modern science and speculate on the intriguing possibility of extraterrestrial life. This episode is a treasure trove of inspiration, strategy, and thought-provoking discussions with the extraordinary Meg Cook.
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Ever wondered what it takes to transition from collegiate track and field to becoming a competitive trail runner? Join us as we talk to Taylor Stack, a rising star in the sub-ultra trail running scene. From his impressive finishes at the Broken Arrow VK and the US Mountain Running Champs to his ongoing master's studies in wildlife biology, Taylor's journey is a fascinating blend of athletic dedication and academic pursuit.
Taylor dives into his background, sharing how growing up in Salida, Colorado, and running for Western Colorado University shaped his career. He discusses his training routines, balancing road and trail running, and the importance of maintaining speed for downhill sections. His experiences with challenges like technical downhills and the use of poles for steep climbs provide invaluable insights for any trail running enthusiast. We also discuss his race strategies, nutrition, and the lessons learned from competing against some of the sport's top athletes.
Beyond running, Taylor's academic work on the conservation genetics of trout in Rocky Mountain National Park adds a unique dimension to his story. He even shares how his passion for fly fishing complements his trail running, allowing him to access remote alpine lakes. Whether you're a seasoned runner or just curious about the vibrant world of trail racing, Taylor's blend of athletic prowess and environmental work offers something for everyone. Don't miss this inspiring conversation that bridges the gap between competitive sport and nature conservation.
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Ever wondered what it takes to be the fastest mullet in the Wasatch? Buckle up for a high-octane conversation with ultra runner Grant Barnette on the Steep Stuff Podcast! This episode promises to take you through Grant's jaw-dropping accomplishments in the trail running world, his ambitious 24-hour vertical skiing record attempt, and the storied journey from high school cross country to the iconic UTMB. Get ready to be inspired by Grant’s incredible tales of grit and perseverance as he reflects on his journey, the lessons learned, and his future ambitions in the ultra-running scene.
Navigating the intricacies of race nutrition can be as challenging as the races themselves, and Grant doesn’t hold back in sharing his insights. Whether you're a seasoned athlete or just getting your feet wet, you’ll gain valuable knowledge on the best strategies for carbohydrate intake, managing heat and terrain, and fighting off nausea. Learn about the innovative nutrition products out there and the importance of personalizing your nutrition plan. Plus, get an insider's look at what it’s like working in sports marketing with Pit Viper and the cutting-edge Sky Surfer sunglasses that are revolutionizing endurance sports.
But it’s not all about the races; we also dive into the world behind the events. From the logistics of organizing a 24-hour vertical skiing record attempt to the culture of trail running and the dynamics of the outdoor industry, this episode covers it all. Hear personal anecdotes about notable athletes, the benefits of off-season training like backcountry skiing, and the social dynamics that fuel the competitive ultrarunning community. With topics ranging from the controversial gondola project in the Wasatch Range to the quirky allure of Bigfoot, this episode is a thrilling rollercoaster through the highs and lows of endurance sports.
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UTMB OCC Race Preview with Special Guest, Benjamin Townsend
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Professional trail runner James Lauriello sits down with some of the most interesting athletes, coaches, adventurers, and personalities in the mountain running world to take an inside look at…
With no script and no two conversations quite the same, The Steep Stuff Podcast dives deep into the people, stories, and ideas shaping trail, mountain, and skyrunning. From training and racing to adventure, gear, lifestyle, the highs and lows of competition, and everything in between, James brings an athlete’s perspective and genuine curiosity to every conversation.
Whether it’s sitting down with the world’s best mountain runners, emerging talents, legendary figures, or the people working behind the scenes, The Steep Stuff explores what makes these individuals tick, what they’ve learned along the way, and why they continue to push themselves into the mountains. It’s all things trail, mountain and skyrunning—and the people who make the sport what it is.

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