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Dr. Becky Kennedy is the founder and CEO of Good Inside, a parenting movement that overturns a lot of conventional, modern parenting practices to empower parents to become sturdy, confident leaders and raise sturdy, confident kids. She is the author of the bestselling book Good Inside: A Guide to Becoming the Parent You Want to Be, a chart-topping podcast, a TED talk with more than 5 million views on the power of repair.

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This episode was originally published in December 2024. Show notes and links: https://tim.blog/2024/12/27/dr-becky-kennedy-good-inside/

TIMESTAMPS:

[00:00:00] Start.

[00:01:55] The power of repair.

[00:04:50] "It's never your fault when I yell at you."

[00:08:55] What does it mean to be a "good" parent?

[00:10:32] Activating curiosity over judgment.

[00:13:33] Alternatives to saying "Good job" as a confidence builder.

[00:20:50] Making kids happy vs. building capability.

[00:24:18] A pilot metaphor for sturdy leadership.

[00:29:30] Role confusion.

[00:32:04] Defining boundaries.

[00:35:07] How parenting becomes a two-way mirror for growth.

[00:40:09] The MGI (Most Generous Interpretation) approach.

[00:42:52] Biggest challenges in parenting.

[00:46:52] Recommended reading for someone with kids in their life.

[00:52:11] Advisable prerequisites for singles who aim to build a family.

[00:56:18] Setting boundaries with grandparents and dealing with different parenting styles.

[01:01:42] Handling frustration when a child is pushing your buttons.

[01:09:58] Lessons learned from working with eating disorders.

[01:13:26] Managing troublemaker behavior.

[01:17:38] Bad influence intervention.

[01:22:52] Cultivating resilience in "deeply feeling" kids (DFKs).

[01:28:58] The trials and errors that birthed Good Inside.

[01:32:53] "Our words are not our wishes. Our words are our fears."

[01:40:07] Billboard messages and mantras.

[01:48:00] Fan-favorite scripts on saying no, boundaries, and repair.

[01:51:15] The tennis court metaphor for boundaries.

[01:55:45] Resources and parting thoughts.

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Sami Inkinen (@samiinkinen) is a Finnish-born, Stanford-trained entrepreneur and the founder and CEO/president of Trulia and Virta Health. Virta is on a mission to reverse metabolic disease in one billion people using technology, AI, and nutrition. A world-class endurance athlete, Sami is a triathlon age-group world champion and an 8-hour, 24-minute Ironman finisher, having completed the Hawaii Ironman World Championship seven times.

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The content of this episode is for informational purposes only. Neither Sami Inkinen nor Tim Ferriss is a medical professional, and nothing discussed here should be taken as medical advice or a substitute for consultation with a qualified healthcare provider.

Timestamps:

[00:00] Start.

[01:45] How Sami uses 15 minutes every Sunday to outrun the universe.

[03:37] Virta: at a thousand employees and counting.

[04:15] The 5 a.m. boot-up: cold lake, core work, and emptying the dishwasher.

[06:45] Why mood follows movement before the brain even boots up.

[11:54] Saying no to 99% of what “normal people” do.

[19:29] The weekly architecture.

[20:29] Two direct reports: the case for radical subtraction.

[21:09] 553 CEO letters and the case for one scalable habit.

[32:36] The text-file life plan.

[33:32] The 15-year personal plan Sami stumbled into by accident.

[34:30] The four-pillar formula for not cracking in 26 years of founder life.

[38:20] What “white Japanese people” and beer steins in saunas have in common.

[45:55] Smoke saunas, löyly, and the one Finnish word worth knowing.

[48:37] The lean, ten-percent-body-fat triathlete who was quietly going prediabetic.

[53:07] Why 93% of American adults are metabolically unhealthy.

[56:05] Reversing type 2 diabetes the way Virta actually does it.

[1:00:17] Most surprising interventions.

[1:03:32] The pancreatic cancer trial that bought patients 35% more time.

[1:07:02] The McDonald’s protocol: how to reverse diabetes from the drive-thru.

[1:16:00] Why GLP-1 adherence collapses and Virta’s doesn’t.

[1:21:10] Vegans, tofu, and the hardest macronutrient to get right.

[1:25:27] The dose-response curve that lets perfect stop being the enemy of progress.

[1:29:32] VO2 max blocks: how Sami trains an 80+ engine without burning out.

[1:41:56] Hacking 10% off your running speed in four weeks.

[1:46:09] Progressive overload, specificity, and the case against the long ride.

[1:50:07] 45 days, three hours, and a contract to keep a marriage afloat.

[1:55:27] The lightning strike in the middle of the Pacific that started a family.

[2:01:15] The 36-year-old who bought his first car only because his wife made him.

[2:05:40] The book recommendation no one saw coming: Trejo.

[2:07:51] The PSA: chronic, progressive, and irreversible — three words Sami refuses.

[2:11:40] Parting thoughts.

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Jerzy Gregorek (@TheHappyBody) is a 4x World Weightlifting Champion, co-founder of UCLA’s weightlifting team, and co-creator, with his wife Aniela, of the Happy Body program. You can watch the documentary Prisoner No More, directed by Jeff Wolfe and produced by WolfePrideProductions.com, for free here: tim.blog/hardchoices. To fill out the form on Cerebral Palsy Research Project, visit tim.blog/cp.

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Timestamps

• [00:00:00] Start.
• [00:01:29] The transformation I’ve been chasing for a decade.
• [00:02:39] When an unstoppable coach meets an immovable cerebral palsy diagnosis.
• [00:04:35] Three pounds to 170: the bench press that woke a brain up.
• [00:07:17] Navigating autism and building the basics of communication that sustain higher education.
• [00:10:41] Treadmills exhaust, athletes progress: why physical therapy stalled where coaching took off.
• [00:19:00] Lethargy, sleeping in the car, and the quiet power of resting energy.
• [00:20:22] The 16-inch box that opened the bathroom door — and everything after.
• [00:24:26] Micro-progressions, certificates, ceremonies, and writing history onto a blank brain.
• [00:29:16] Parental dedication and appreciation.
• [00:31:54] The adulthood gambit: quit piano, quit training — if you can stick an 18-inch jump.
• [00:35:14] License plates as the gateway drug from counting to math five hours a day.
• [00:40:04] Jerzy’s coaching style doesn’t court approval.
• [00:42:42] Genghis Khan vs. Admiral Yi Sun-Sin vs. Jerzy vs. Tae Jin.
• [00:46:35] In search of the science behind such transformations: 25 patients, five years, and a method built to be replicated (interested researchers, visit tim.blog/cp).
• [01:05:39] Hard choices, easy life — and the call to find your starting point.

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Many of us feel like we’re drowning in invisible complexity. So I wanted to hit pause and ask a simple question: What are 1-3 decisions that could dramatically simplify my life in 2026? To explore that, I invited four long-time listener favorites—Anne Lamott, Claire Hughes Johnson, David Yarrow, and Diana Chapman.

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Connect with David Yarrow: Website | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook

David's previous appearance on this show: David Yarrow on Art, Markets, Business, and Combining It All | The Tim Ferriss Show #443

Connect with Claire Hughes Johnson: LinkedIn | Twitter

Claire's book: Scaling People: Tactics for Management and Company Building

Claire's previous appearance on this show: Claire Hughes Johnson — How to Take Responsibility for Your Life, Create Rules That Work, Stop Being a Victim, Set Strong Boundaries, and More | The Tim Ferriss Show #724

Connect with Diana Chapman: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram

Diana's book: The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership: A New Paradigm for Sustainable Success, co-authored with Jim Dethmer and Kaley Klemp

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Connect with Anne Lamott: Substack | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

Anne's new book: Good Writing: 36 Ways to Improve Your Sentences, co-authored with Neal Allen

Anne's previous appearance on this show: Anne Lamott on Taming Your Inner Critic, Finding Grace, and Prayer | The Tim Ferriss Show #522

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Timestamps:

• [00:00:00] Start.
• [00:02:20] David Yarrow: British photographer in America and an unconventional divorcé.
• [00:02:32] The anti-remarriage thesis: why staying single was the boldest simplification of all.
• [00:03:19] The unlikely happy ending: ex-spouses who became best friends.
• [00:04:58] The friend audit.
• [00:06:07] Energy as a luxury brand.
• [00:06:34] No agent, no problem: the art of the direct “no.”
• [00:07:39] Claire Hughes Johnson: COO, author, and self-described bad simplifier.
• [00:07:59] The switch from default yes to default no.
• [00:08:39] Root cause analysis on the “yes” problem: earning love through usefulness.
• [00:09:21] Arthur Brooks’ flip: think people, not tasks.
• [00:10:35] Mission clarity: knowing exactly why you said yes before you walk in the door.
• [00:11:16] The “retention exercise”: how Claire negotiated sleep and workouts into her job description.
• [00:16:45] Diana Chapman: Conscious Leadership disruptor, professional fear-finder.
• [00:17:07] The “whole body yes”: simplicity lives where your inner and outer worlds agree.
• [00:17:41] Decision #1: Evicting “should” from the vocabulary entirely.
• [00:19:15] Decision #2: The relationship contract — same rules, dramatically less drama.
• [00:20:37] The No-Blame Zone: signs on the wall, accountability in the air.
• [00:24:02] Curiosity over righteousness, feelings over suppression, play over seriousness.
• [00:26:29] How play unlocked a hard conversation.
• [00:27:56] Decision #3: Holding two truths — your work matters and the world will survive without you.
• [00:30:32] Anne Lamott: 21 books, one husband, and a very heavy 60th birthday.
• [00:31:00] Ditching the six-plate act: reclaiming the inner goofball.
• [00:32:18] “The point is not to try harder, but to resist less.”
• [00:33:18] The belly breath: watching your hand rise as an act of radical simplicity.
• [00:33:41] Ram Dass’ heart-nostrils: expanding the spiritual core.
• [00:33:59] The third third: borrowed time, intentional days, and tossing boxes out of the plane.

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Elad Gil (@eladgil) is CEO of Gil & Co, a multi-stage investment firm, holding company, and operating company working on the world’s most advanced technologies. Elad is a serial entrepreneur, operating executive, and investor or advisor to private companies, including AirBnB, Anduril, Coinbase, Figma, Instacart, OpenAI, SpaceX, and Stripe. He was previously VP of Corporate Strategy at Twitter and started mobile at Google. He was the founder and CEO of Mixerlabs and Color. Elad is the author of the bestseller High Growth Handbook: Scaling Startups from 10 to 10,000 People.

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Timestamps

• [00:00:00] Start.
• [00:02:21] What’s the “AI personal IPO” that just quietly happened across Silicon Valley?
• [00:05:28] Tens to hundreds of millions per researcher: What top AI pay packages actually look like.
• [00:06:44] The compute ceiling: Why Korean memory fabs are the unlikely bottleneck throttling every AI lab on earth.
• [00:11:11] From zero to $30B run rate: The fastest revenue ramps in the history of capitalism.
• [00:17:24] The dot-com survival rate was one in 100. Buckle up, AI founders.
• [00:20:35] Your value-maximizing window: Why the next 12–18 months may be as good as it gets.
• [00:21:32] Durable advantage — and why the AI market is an oligopoly (for now).
• [00:24:12] Exit options for AI founders: labs, hyperscalers, vertical players, and the underrated merger of equals.
• [00:28:11] Math, biology, and intuitive leaps: Elad’s pre-investing background.
• [00:29:42] Elad’s revisionist genesis story.
• [00:30:50] Go where the cluster is: 91% of global AI private market cap lives in a 10×10 mile square.
• [00:33:20] The accidental investor: Patrick Collison walks, Airbnb intros, and deals that just happened.
• [00:34:37] Want money? Ask for advice. Want advice? Ask for money.
• [00:35:00] The High Growth Handbook: Tactical guide, not bedtime reading.
• [00:35:41] Market first, team second — with a Perplexity-and-Anduril asterisk.
• [00:37:43] Smoke in the distance: AlexNet and the transformative GPT-3 moment.
• [00:45:15] AI cold-reading: Feeding photos to the model and getting eerily accurate personality reads.
• [00:48:56] Has Elad ever done a retrospective on his own investing?
• [00:52:13] Power laws are terrifying: 10 companies, 80% of returns, two decades.
• [00:55:53] Avoiding science projects, and how SPACs accidentally saved hard tech investing.
• [00:59:20] The one-belief framework: Coinbase = crypto index. Stripe = e-commerce index. That’s the whole memo.
• [01:00:54] Due diligence theater vs. the one question that actually matters.
• [01:02:13] The four-year vest is a relic: How venture capital ate growth investing.
• [01:07:16] Boards as in-laws: You can’t fire them, so choose wisely.
• [01:09:47] “Valuation is temporary. Control is forever.” — Naval Ravikant, as quoted by Elad, as relayed to you.
• [01:11:30] How great companies actually grew: toolbars, name-targeted ads, and billions in distribution spend.
• [01:15:36] Selling software vs. selling labor hours: The real shift generative AI made.
• [01:18:40] Spotting a great market: regulatory shifts, technology shifts, and Hashi getting bought by IBM.
• [01:21:28] Fake TAM, real TAM, and the Coke CEO who realized he wasn’t in the soda business.
• [01:22:47] Right now, consensus is just correct. Save the contrarianism for later.
• [01:25:15] Market entry vs. market disruption: SpaceX launched rockets, then disrupted the internet.
• [01:26:16] How Elad learns: X, papers, 20-minute calls with the right people — and four AI models running in parallel.
• [01:27:15] Deep dive: ADHD, autism, and why diagnostic rates soared without more people actually having it.
• [01:33:40] Longevity for realists: sleep, creatine, and maybe rapamycin when the real drugs arrive.
• [01:40:30] Ibogaine, anesthesia, and the next frontier of bioelectric medicine.
• [01:45:15] Elad’s first-ever 10-year plan — and why making one changes everything.
• [01:46:53] Parting thoughts.

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Cathy Lanier is the Chief Security Officer of the National Football League, where she oversees security across the league office and all 32 clubs. Before the NFL, she served as Chief of Police of Washington, D.C., from 2007 to 2016 — the first woman in the role and the longest-serving chief in the force's history — where her strategies helped cut violent crime by 21 percent even as the city's population grew 15 percent.

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TIMESTAMPS:

[00:00] Start.

[01:38] Cathy Lanier: from Tuxedo to the top.

[03:22] Dad vanishes; Mom holds the line (and takes shorthand to the TV).

[08:08] Bused into DC: straight-A student turns chronic truant.

[10:37] Married at 15, signed over for $100 off child support.

[12:54] The baby-in-the-crib wake-up call.

[16:37] GED by a single point; secretary by day, waitress by night.

[20:18] The Washington Post ad that changed everything.

[20:39] 1990 MPD: into the crack cocaine wars.

[23:46] Grandma's gospel: no excuses, damned for doing.

[26:23] Mount Pleasant riots: trial by brick, and a better-way epiphany.

[33:23] Donny Exum's nudge — and sergeant at 26.

[38:56] Being a woman on the '90s force: harassment and the 90-day dodge.

[49:38] Marion Barry exits, Chuck Ramsey enters.

[51:08] Lieutenant: the sweet spot. Captain: the desk (but keep the cuffs).

[56:58] 9/11 and the surprise transfer to Special Ops.

[58:07] Mentors lend confidence — and a counterterrorism bureau built from scratch.

[1:00:14] Live Sarin, VX, and training with bioweapons legends.

[1:02:22] Text the 50, get the 411: the tip line gambit.

[1:03:36] Cultivating sources: the white Escalade payoff.

[1:09:02] Attention to detail: OCD as a superpower.

[1:10:43] Teletubby pagers to smartphones — and the Thomas Maslin reckoning.

[1:15:14] NFL security: the scope of "everything."

[1:17:10] Red teaming, explained.

[1:18:53] NFL vs. MPD: diversity and complexity that goes to 11.

[1:21:24] The book club: The Tipping Point and Blink.

[1:23:32] Decisions under pressure — and with incomplete information.

[1:28:34] Billboard wisdom: it's not what happens; it's what you do.

[1:30:08] Parting thoughts.

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Brian Dean is the founder of Backlinko and Exploding Topics, both acquired by Semrush, which itself was recently acquired by Adobe for $1.9 billion. Brian's story starts exactly where a lot of great stories start: broke, directionless, and eating canned beef stew in his dad's basement during the 2008 financial crisis. He picked up a copy of The 4-Hour Workweek and took action. As is nearly always the case, his path wasn’t a straight line, but a series of winding turns, all fed by experiments. His journey includes failures, two successful exits, and a hard-won answer to the question most people never think to ask: what do you actually do with your freedom once you have it?

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Timestamps:

• [00:00:00] Start.
• [00:02:53] From PhD pipettes to Dad’s basement to Jerry Springer.
• [00:04:38] The 4-Hour Workweek finds its dream reader — marginal notes and all.
• [00:06:04] First product flops, free traffic beckons, and SEO.
• [00:07:40] The 200-domain AdSense empire.
• [00:09:40] Dreamlining: From “escape the basement” to “3k a month in Thailand.”
• [00:11:27] When Google’s Panda update slapped the internet (and Brian’s empire).
• [00:12:32] Scared straight: Black hat to white hat via a hostel in Spain.
• [00:17:55] Backlinko is born.
• [00:19:50] The 200 ranking factors post: 25 hours of patent-digging, a million visitors.
• [00:22:13] New rule: One post a month, 10x better than anything out there.
• [00:23:02] Semrush comes knocking to buy his company — Brian ignores the email.
• [00:24:02] Taking celebratory shots at Legal Sea Foods while wondering where the contract is.
• [00:25:32] Due diligence hell: Hunting down ghosted freelancers and the contractor commandments.
• [00:29:25] SEC market-close rules vs. Brian’s 10 p.m. bedtime.
• [00:30:16] Post-acquisition: Hopping from one treadmill to the next.
• [00:34:19] Backlinko on autopilot, boredom on full blast, and the chapter everyone skips.
• [00:35:42] Exploding Topics: The paid newsletter mistake vs. the obvious SaaS play.
• [00:38:41] Data-driven content and the ChatGPT user stats flywheel.
• [00:41:00] Noah Kagan’s advice: Double down on what works — then 10x down.
• [00:42:26] Ready, Fire, Aim — the litmus test for would-be founders.
• [00:44:06] Startup costs: $500 for Backlinko vs. $90k to acquire Exploding Topics.
• [00:47:29] How love and a Craigslist apartment scam in Berlin landed Brian in Portugal.
• [00:48:48] Geoarbitrage still works — just don’t trust the 2007 pricing.
• [00:50:20] Post-exit stress: Oura Ring at 2x baseline and the Algarve hard reset.
• [00:52:21] Why founders who launch within a year of selling usually regret it.
• [00:53:30] Tennis as the ultimate void-filler: Fun, fitness, community, and fresh air in one sport.
• [00:54:31] The paradox of choice after exit: Structure, identity, and vertigo.
• [00:56:52] Parting thoughts.

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Daredevil Michelle Khare lives life to the extreme in Challenge Accepted, amassing more than 6 million followers and more than 1 billion views. Across the show, you'll see Michelle attempt everything from Tom Cruise’s Deadliest stunt to Harry Houdini’s water torture cell to trying to earn a black belt in taekwondo in only 90 days.

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TIMESTAMPS:

• [00:00:00] Start.
• [00:00:24] Challenge Accepted: The logline and why breakdowns stay in the edit.
• [00:03:05] Growing up in Shreveport, LA: Friday night movies, the AFI Top 100, and interning on Snitch.
• [00:06:15] Podcasting: While “easier” than writing books, it’s a heck of a lot more work than meets the ear.
• [00:21:24] Quality over quantity: 8–10 episodes a year, scarcity as strategy, and building a defensible moat.
• [00:31:47] “Hard choices, easy life.” — Jerzy Gregorek, calling the FAA 300 times, and why no one copies you when the barrier is insanity.
• [00:35:32] Dartmouth to Google.org: the Fermi estimation faceplant and not getting the job.
• [00:37:10] BuzzFeed as graduate school of the internet.
• [00:40:37] Work for someone else first: My case against starting a company right out of school.
• [00:47:28] The stolen book: Michelle pulls out a battered 2016 copy of The 4-Hour Workweek and reads her fear-setting chart aloud.
• [00:51:10] “I’ve never designed my own rubric of success” — the nightmare, the repair plan, and what Michelle was putting off out of fear.
• [00:56:59] Practicing poverty: studio apartment, stripped-down life, moonlighting for a year, then the three-month-savings leap.
• [01:06:58] Kebab-shop destiny: meeting stunt coordinator Steve Brown in L.A. — now he does Avatar and straps Michelle to planes.
• [01:09:04] Surface area for luck: Bill Gurley, Kevin Kelly’s sleeping bag, and Seneca on voluntary discomfort.
• [01:12:44] Coach, mentor, cheerleader: the three-person Formula One team you actually need.
• [01:17:20] The art of the cold email — and cold-calling the FBI tip line to meet “The Hollywood Guy.”
• [01:21:55] Michelle’s three-paragraph, six-sentence formula for emails that open any door.
• [01:26:15] My cold email playbook: the “via” trick, include your damn cell number, and why “Yo, Ferriss” is an auto-archive.
• [01:36:24] The fake Tim Ferriss Podcast phishing scam: Zoom calls, screen access, and hijacked Facebook pages.
• [01:40:58] Emailing Hank Green, Brandon Sanderson’s unpublished novels, and why your first cold emails are just practice reps.
• [01:46:37] Michelle’s storytelling syllabus: Survivor, Snyder’s Save the Cat, and peer review of whatever went viral last week.
• [01:48:44] The magic of Jeff Probst, and dissecting the bones of storytelling.
• [01:53:12] John McPhee’s red-ink writing class at Princeton.
• [01:58:38] Six Thinking Hats broke Michelle’s pessimism; Radical Candor taught her how to give feedback.
• [02:07:20] The slinky org chart: Seven full-timers that balloon to 50 for a shoot, then compress right back.
• [02:21:21] Scope creep, saying no to big checks, and why Michelle has never hit creator burnout.
• [02:30:34] My No Book teaser: 850 pages on renegotiating commitments and getting back on the wagon.
• [02:33:31] The Mindy Kaling manifesto: @MindyKalingFan, The Office, and shattering expectations for Indian women in entertainment.
• [02:40:38] Wishlist shout-out: Norland College, where Mary Poppins meets Secret Service.
• [02:42:48] Episodes Michelle would pay to relive.
• [02:47:40] Episodes Michelle would pay to skip.
• [02:52:15] Seven marathons, seven continents, one week.
• [02:57:10] Free Solo, Alex Honnold in the creepy van, and things both of us would never do.
• [03:00:38] Books gifted most: Radical Candor, The Great CEO Within, and Adam Grant’s Originals.
• [03:01:21] Michelle’s billboard.
• [03:02:45] A primetime Emmy run and parting thoughts.

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Welcome back to another in-between-isode, with one of my favorite formats: the good old-fashioned Q&A.

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TIMESTAMPS:

• [00:00:00] Start.
• [00:02:12] Why I tend to choose the dull edge over the bleeding edge of tech.
• [00:04:27] Leopold Aschenbrenner: The closest thing to an AI Nostradamus.
• [00:05:32] What humans still do better than AI.
• [00:07:55] The bull and bear case for Alphabet.
• [00:11:30] Three things for which you should never use AI.
• [00:16:05] Can AI be as creative as humans?
• [00:17:01] Rising above the AI content flood.
• [00:19:19] Chris Hutchins on optimizing workflow with OpenClaw and Claude Code.
• [00:22:02] AI under the hood at Team Ferriss
• [00:26:37] Making career jumps in the age of AI displacement.
• [00:30:20] Cultivating a respectful community of 1,000 True Fans
• [00:34:49] Dog training as community management.
• [00:36:03] My favorite color
• [00:36:21] Coyote’s steady state and the future of Cockpunch/Varlata.
• [00:38:03] Essential reading from my own bookshelf.
• [00:40:48] Most breathtaking places I’ve visited.
• [00:41:44] Optimizing time and networking effectively at conferences.
• [00:47:34] Choosing what not to do when your company’s growing quickly.
• [00:49:12] Psychedelic practitioner red flags (and why you should watch Kumaré).
• [00:52:35] The career I’m pursuing in an alternative universe.
• [00:53:29] Dog training the right way with Molly the rescue mutt and Susan Garrett.
• [00:55:28] Thoughts on Enneagram for matchmaking.
• [00:57:02] Quantum computing: Fascinating, terrifying, and probably not 30 years away anymore.
• [00:58:18] Maintaining friendships across ideological lines.
• [00:59:49] The compounding upsides to selective ignorance.
• [01:02:04] In-common humor: The glue that binds the most resilient relationships.
• [01:02:36] The inspiration behind my blog post about 20+ years of “optimizing.”
• [01:04:28] Simple ways to make the world shine brighter.
• [01:05:16] The No Book.
• [01:05:37] The 18th question: “What is the most generous interpretation of this?”
• [01:07:42] The best way I’ve found to experience a new city with limited time.
• [01:08:18] How “Ozymandias” informs the priority I place on wealth accumulation.
• [01:09:59] Relationships over riches.
• [01:11:16] What I consider the top three values for kids: Optimism, resourcefulness, physical activity.
• [01:13:04] Weirdness in the wilderness and succumbing to a shipwreck scam.
• [01:14:21] Ask your best friends when they’ve seen you at your best — and what superpower you’re blind to.
• [01:17:33] Is courage internal or external? Can it be learned?
• [01:19:27] Parting thoughts.

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Welcome to another wide-ranging "Random Show" episode that I recorded with my close friend Kevin Rose (digg.com)!

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Timestamps:

• [00:00:00] A meditative start.
• [00:02:19] Reflecting on our second Zen retreat in Santa Fe with Henry Shukman.
• [00:04:08] Ketone liver warnings and eggplant allergies: The perils of raiding Kevin’s fridge.
• [00:08:06] “Just be still” — three simple words that miraculously shut down my OCD.
• [00:13:54] Is meditation secretly vagus nerve stimulation?
• [00:20:17] DIY vagus nerve stim for $25 vs. Kevin’s $900 ear clip.
• [00:24:57] HeartMath and watching your HRV move in real time.
• [00:27:57] Marching toward 50: balance boards and the end of jiu-jitsu.
• [00:31:26] Tony Hawk snowboarding Hokkaido with screws in his hip.
• [00:33:01] Slacklining and why your nervous system needs sleep cycles.
• [00:35:19] Bertolotti’s Syndrome: My six-year back pain gets a name.
• [00:37:09] The nerve block test: everything wrong, zero pain.
• [00:44:10] Abrahangs tendon protocol: 10 seconds on, 50 off.
• [00:46:24] The NUG: a pocket hangboard for travelers.
• [00:48:31] Craig Mod’s Japanese toothbrush and Toaster’s cameo.
• [00:50:45] Kevin’s $92 vintage fire jacket: Blue Heritage Japan.
• [00:54:26] Podcast picks: The Power Broker and STEM Talk.
• [00:56:20] Alzheimer’s: A plaque or mitochondrial problem?
• [00:57:30] 10 grams of ketones turns one-word answers into sentences.
• [00:58:40] Methylene blue on Amazon: 120 years of research, zero guardrails.
• [01:02:36] Bredesen Protocol, APOE genotyping, and a cognitive comeback.
• [01:05:32] Photobiomodulation: $30k laser to the forehead.
• [01:07:55] Urolithin A and the high price of mitochondrial upkeep.
• [01:14:56] Recipe for disaster pants: espresso + creatine + MCT oil.
• [01:17:39] Norwegian 4×4 training and lactate as a brain lever.
• [01:23:15] Blood flow restriction bands and schwantz ring koans.
• [01:29:08] Hummingbirds named Sunset and squirrel obstacle courses.
• [01:32:06] Parting thoughts.

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