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Steve Young (@steveyoung) is a Hall of Fame NFL quarterback who played more than 15 seasons, primarily with the San Francisco 49ers. Steve co-founded HGGC, which manages more than $6.9B in capital commitments. He’s also the founder and current chair of the Forever Young Foundation, which supports children’s charities globally. He is the author of QB: My Life Behind the Spiral and The Law of Love.

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TIMESTAMPS:

• [00:00:00] Start.
• [00:02:34] The full circle of Josh Waitzkin.
• [00:05:47] The Stephen Covey plane ride that changed everything.
• [00:11:38] Overcoming victimization: The hole you dig, then jump into.
• [00:14:16] How taking ownership led Steve from rock bottom to NFL MVP in one season.
• [00:21:50] Interceptions and the truest truth about accountability.
• [00:26:09] What separates good from great quarterbacks: Adrenaline alchemy.
• [00:31:21] Alex Honnold and the genetics of not panicking.
• [00:32:14] Learning to actually throw a football at BYU.
• [00:35:01] Recovering from the offensive coordinator who wouldn’t coach southpaws.
• [00:37:00] The vulnerability prerequisite.
• [00:42:45] Separation anxiety: Thriving by day, terrified by night.
• [00:48:29] Tears in the Candlestick Park training room.
• [00:52:37] The diagnosis that made the puzzle pieces fit.
• [00:58:32] Dad’s philosophy: Dream (1%) and Plan (80%).
• [01:01:14] Law school between Super Bowl parades.
• [01:02:33] Trading locker room access for venture capital deals.
• [01:08:45] Mourning old identities and heeding Roger Staubach’s transition advice: “Run.”
• [01:11:49] Rich Lawson walks out of Morgan Stanley: “I’ll be the CEO.”
• [01:19:05] 30 years of partnership: Yin, yang, and existential crises.
• [01:23:01] HGGC: The name nobody can pronounce (and why).
• [01:25:19] Faith evolution: From Boy Scout theology to something deeper.
• [01:29:41] The Law of Love: Bill Walsh’s secret weapon.
• [01:32:53] Divine humanity and the irony of losing self-interest.
• [01:43:52] Parting thoughts.

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This episode is part of a series called Meditation Monday. The teacher, Henry Shukman, has been on my podcast twice before. He is one of only a few dozen masters in the world authorized to teach Sanbo Zen, and now, he’ll be your teacher.

In addition to my long-form interviews each week, every Monday I’ll bring you a short 10-minute or so meditation, which will help you for the rest of the week.

Over this four-episode series, you’ll develop a Zen toolkit to help you find greater calm, peace, and effectiveness in your daily life.

Henry’s app, The Way, has changed my life since I first started using it. Unlike other meditation apps, where you’re overwhelmed with a thousand choices, The Way is a clear step-by-step training program guided entirely by Henry. Through a logical progression, you’ll develop real skills that stick with you.

I’ve been using it daily, often twice a day, and it’s lowered my anxiety more than I thought possible.

As a listener of my podcast, you can get 30 free sessions by visiting https://thewayapp.com/tim and downloading the app.

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Dr. Dominic D’Agostino (@DominicDAgosti2) is a tenured associate professor in the Department of Molecular Pharmacology and Physiology at the University of South Florida Morsani College of Medicine and a Visiting Senior Research Scientist at the Institute for Human and Machine Cognition.

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Timestamps:

• [00:00:00] Who is Dominic D'Agostino?
• [00:04:37] Ketosis benefits: Quieting the mind, GABA elevation, metabolic psychiatry.
• [00:09:24] My Lyme disease story: Pseudo-dementia reversed in 3-4 days of ketosis.
• [00:13:50] Spirochetes are glycolytic: Starve the bug, boost the immune response.
• [00:19:20] Ketosis and cancer: Slowing glycolytic tumors, enhancing standard care.
• [00:20:50] My 18-day keto experiment: Mood stabilization, Alzheimer’s prevention hopes.
• [00:23:19] Metabolic memory: Carryover effects and Valter Longo’s fasting mimicking research.
• [00:27:11] Intermittent fasting as keto on-ramp: My 2-8 p.m. eating window.
• [00:29:15] Dom’s budget keto meal: Canned mackerel, MCT oil, apple cider vinegar.
• [00:33:28] My ketone measurement paradox: Feeling sharp at 0.2 mM readings.
• [00:36:56] The carburetor analogy: Ketone production vs. utilization explained.
• [00:38:43] Breath ketones vs. blood ketones: Better indicator in caloric deficit.
• [00:39:47] Gluconeogenesis fears: Fat, fiber, and salt to slow protein absorption.
• [00:45:25] The bunless double cheeseburger question: 80 grams of protein in one sitting.
• [00:49:03] Post-meal walking and GLUT4 activation: Timing your glucose disposal.
• [00:51:02] CGM and ketone monitor limitations: When your devices gaslight you.
• [00:58:05] Rabbit starvation and protein-veggie days: Why your body won’t bankroll its own ketosis.
• [01:05:44] Alzheimer’s prevention: Biomarkers, B12, hsCRP, and metabolic health.
• [01:09:40] My family history: Letrozole, metabolic dysfunction, and rapid cognitive decline.
• [01:13:17] Minimum effective dose: 80% of benefits from low-carb Mediterranean.
• [01:18:56] One week per month protocol: Aggressive calorie cut to ramp ketones.
• [01:23:12] GKI sweet spot: Target 1-4, aim for 1-2 during intensive weeks.
• [01:36:22] Exogenous ketones 101: Palatability, tolerability, pharmacokinetics, toxicity.
• [01:39:21] 1,3-Butanediol warnings: Liver toxicity, NAD depletion, dependency risk.
• [01:54:22] Intermittent fasting vs. ketogenic breakfast.
• [01:59:09] My accidental intoxication story.
• [02:03:23] Dr. Veech tribute: Student of Hans Krebs, ketone ester pioneer.
• [02:05:08] Fiber on keto: Wild blueberries, broccoli, apples, walnuts.
• [02:09:58] The tainted gummies incident: Dom’s forensic investigation underway.
• [02:13:08] Thanks to Dr. Boz and Medifoodz.
• [02:16:19] Parting thoughts.

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This episode is part of a series called Meditation Monday. The teacher, Henry Shukman, has been on my podcast twice before. He is one of only a few dozen masters in the world authorized to teach Sanbo Zen, and now, he’ll be your teacher.

In addition to my long-form interviews each week, every Monday I’ll bring you a short 10-minute or so meditation, which will help you for the rest of the week.

Over this four-episode series, you’ll develop a Zen toolkit to help you find greater calm, peace, and effectiveness in your daily life.

Henry’s app, The Way, has changed my life since I first started using it. Unlike other meditation apps, where you’re overwhelmed with a thousand choices, The Way is a clear step-by-step training program guided entirely by Henry. Through a logical progression, you’ll develop real skills that stick with you.

I’ve been using it daily, often twice a day, and it’s lowered my anxiety more than I thought possible.

As a listener of my podcast, you can get 30 free sessions by visiting https://thewayapp.com/tim and downloading the app.

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Greg McKeown is the author of two New York Times bestsellers, Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less and Effortless: Make It Easier to Do What Matters Most. 200,000 people receive his weekly 1-Minute Wednesday newsletter, and he recently released The Essentialism Planner: A 90-Day Guide to Accomplishing More by Doing Less. 

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Past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, Margaret Atwood, Mark Zuckerberg, Peter Thiel, Dr. Gabor Maté, Anne Lamott, Sarah Silverman, Dr. Andrew Huberman, and many more.

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This time around, we have an experimental format, featuring the first episode of a brand-new podcast launching next week, Drug Story. I rarely feature episodes from other shows, but I think this one is well worth your time. It changed how I think about allergies, especially as someone who carries an EpiPen and has wondered: why on earth have food allergies seemed to skyrocket in the last few decades?

Drug Story is a podcast that tells the story of the disease business, one drug at a time. Each episode explores one disease and one drug, and it kicks off with EpiPen and food allergies. A quick teaser: What if I told you that a well-meaning medical recommendation may have caused millions of kids to develop food allergies?

Make sure to subscribe to Drug Story on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also simply go to DrugStory.co and learn more.

The host is Thomas Goetz. He is a senior impact fellow at the University of California Berkeley School of Public Health, and much earlier, Thomas was the executive editor at WIRED, which he led to a dozen National Magazine Awards from 2001 to 2013. His writing has been repeatedly selected for the Best American Science Writing and Best Technology Writing anthologies.

P.S. To help you kick off 2026, I recommend checking out Henry Shukman, a past podcast guest and one of the few in the world authorized to teach Sanbo Zen. Henry’s app, The Way, has changed my life. I’ve been using it daily, often twice a day, and it’s lowered my anxiety more than I thought possible. For 30 free sessions, just visit thewayapp.com/tim No credit card required.

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Arthur C. Brooks is a professor at the Harvard Kennedy School and the Harvard Business School, where he teaches courses on leadership and happiness. His next book, The Meaning of Your Life: Finding Purpose in an Age of Emptiness, will be released on March 31, 2026.

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Timestamps:

• [00:00:00] Start.
• [00:02:33] The vascular Arthur Brooks returns.
• [00:03:07] Brahmamuhurta and why Arthur studies happiness.
• [00:06:20] Arthur’s morning workout protocol.
• [00:09:58] Why Arthur does Zone 2 cardio without headphones.
• [00:10:38] Quantifying progress as the secret to happiness.
• [00:20:50] Post-workout holy half-hour.
• [00:22:25] Creatine, caffeine strategy, and 60-70 grams of protein for breakfast.
• [00:29:50] Four hours of distraction-free deep work and Hemingway’s protocol.
• [00:32:21] Alcohol kills sleep to borrow happiness from tomorrow.
• [00:34:36] My ketosis, intermittent fasting, and morning protocol.
• [00:39:34] Experimentation is king.
• [00:46:29] David Baszucki, metabolic psychiatry, and ketosis: the poet’s protocol.
• [00:48:20] Four affect profiles: mad scientists, cheerleaders, judges, and poets.
• [00:54:13] Why Arthur was moved to write The Meaning of Your Life.
• [00:55:52] Psychogenic epidemic: technology isn’t the problem, it’s what we’re not getting.
• [00:59:33] Macronutrients of meaning: coherence, purpose, significance.
• [01:03:38] Search vs. presence and the trap for seekers.
• [01:07:53] Marine rule: get to 80 percent and choose.
• [01:12:07] Significance at micro, not macro level; cult of activism as substitute religion.
• [01:17:22] Transcendence: from me self to I self; Harvard’s Astronomy 101.
• [01:19:35] Two dimensions of transcendence: upward (worship) and outward (service).
• [01:21:48] Maslow revised: training awareness so the mundane becomes miraculous.
• [01:28:45] Flow state as self-forgetting; beauty as transcendence.
• [01:32:12] Living in the simulation: complicated vs. complex problems.
• [01:37:55] Left hemisphere vs. right hemisphere.
• [01:42:18] Your suffering is sacred: pain times resistance.
• [01:46:30] Pilgrimage as metaphor.
• [01:55:42] AI as left-brain adjunct.
• [01:57:18] Arthur’s evening protocol: Psalms and Neruda.
• [02:00:13] The oxytocin protocol for marriage, break glass plan.
• [02:04:31] Happiness is love and other parting thoughts.

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Bill Gurley (@bgurley) is a general partner at Benchmark, a leading venture capital firm in Silicon Valley. His new book is Runnin’ Down a Dream: How to Thrive in a Career You Actually Love.

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Timestamps:

• [00:00:00] Start.
• [00:01:43] The book that gave Jerry Seinfeld permission to pursue comedy and inspired Runnin’ Down a Dream.
• [00:03:59] AI bubble or not?
• [00:06:33] Circular deals and SPV chaos.
• [00:12:01] Angel investing in the AI era.
• [00:14:32] Why you should be the most AI-enabled version of yourself, regardless of field.
• [00:20:47] China deep dive: Ten days, six cities, high-speed trains, and a Xiaomi SU7 factory tour.
• [00:22:43] Communism misconceptions.
• [00:25:40] Lei Jun: The Steve Jobs of China.
• [00:29:17] Jack Ma, ByteDance’s invisible CEO, and the risks of prominence in China.
• [00:32:11] America vs. China (Lawyers vs. engineers).
• [00:41:01] Keys for US competitiveness.
• [00:43:47] Bill is bullish on these countries.
• [00:47:30] Matthew McConaughey’s “Don’t half ass it” moment.
• [00:49:45] Runnin’ Down a Dream thesis: Helping people pursue X instead of A, B, or C.
• [00:51:03] The 80,000-hour question.
• [00:52:47] The self-learning test.
• [00:56:58] Bob Dylan as music expeditionary.
• [01:00:27] Go to the epicenter where the action is.
• [01:10:56] Danny Meyer’s pivot.
• [01:13:30] Working for free.
• [01:19:37] Never too late: Tito Beveridge started Tito’s Vodka at 40.
• [01:21:51] AI sanity checks.
• [01:25:59] AI-proof bets.
• [01:29:13] Sam Hinkie’s Moneyball moment.
• [01:32:37] Competitive strategy, avoiding false failures, and regret minimalization.
• [01:43:46] Purpose, Progress, and Prosperity — the P3 Policy Institute.
• [01:47:18] Regulatory capture explained.
• [01:51:55] Why the IPO market is broken.
• [02:01:52] Stablecoins putting Visa and Mastercard on notice.
• [02:03:40] Hopes for Runnin’ Down a Dream and parting thoughts.

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Dr. Fei-Fei Li (@drfeifei) is the inaugural Sequoia Professor in the Computer Science Department at Stanford University, a founding co-director of Stanford’s Human-Centered AI Institute, and the co-founder and CEO of World Labs, a generative AI company focusing on Spatial Intelligence. She is the author of The Worlds I See: Curiosity, Exploration, and Discovery at the Dawn of AI, her memoir and one of Barack Obama’s recommended books on AI and a Financial Times best book of 2023.

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TIMESTAMPS

• [00:00:00] Start.
• [00:01:22] Why it’s so remarkable this is our first time meeting.
• [00:03:21] From a childhood in Chengdu to New Jersey
• [00:04:51] Being raised by the opposite of tiger parenting.
• [00:07:53] Why Dr. Li’s brave parents left everything behind.
• [00:11:17] Bob Sabella: The math teacher who sacrificed lunch hours for an immigrant kid.
• [00:19:37] Seven years running a dry cleaning shop through Princeton.
• [00:20:50] How ImageNet birthed modern AI.
• [00:23:21] From fighter jets to physics to the audacious question: What is intelligence?
• [00:27:24] The epiphany everyone missed: Big data as the hidden hypothesis.
• [00:28:49] Against the single-genius myth: Science as non-linear lineage.
• [00:32:18] Amazon Mechanical Turk: When desperation breeds innovation.
• [00:39:03] Quality control puzzles: How do you stop people from seeing pandas everywhere?
• [00:41:36] The “Godmother of AI” on what everyone’s missing: People.
• [00:42:31] Civilizational technology: AI’s fingerprints on GDP, culture, and Japanese taxi screens.
• [00:47:45] Pragmatic optimist: Why neither utopians nor doomsayers have it right.
• [00:51:30] Why World Labs: Spatial intelligence as the next frontier beyond language.
• [00:53:17] Packing sandwiches and painting bedrooms: Breaking down spatial reasoning.
• [00:55:16] Medieval French towns on a budget: How World Labs serves high school theater.
• [00:59:08] Flight simulators for robots and strawberry field therapy for OCD.
• [01:01:42] The scientists who don’t make headlines: Spelke, Gopnik, Brooks, and the cognitive giants.
• [01:03:16] What’s underappreciated: Spatial intelligence, AI in education, and the messy middle of labor.
• [01:06:21] Hiring at World Labs: Why tool embrace matters more than degrees.
• [01:08:50] Rethinking evaluation: Show students AI’s B-minus, then challenge them to beat it.
• [01:11:24] Dr. Li’s Billboard.
• [01:13:13] The fortuitous naming of Fei-Fei.
• [01:14:46] Parting thoughts.

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Welcome to another wide-ranging "Random Show" episode that I recorded with my close friend Kevin Rose (digg.com)!

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• [00:00:00] Start.
• [00:00:52] Why Kevin concluded nearly seven months of sobriety, and the 2-2-2 Rule he now follows for alcohol consumption.
• [00:07:12] My recent adventures in accelerated TMS and bioelectric medicine.
• [00:21:09] The tragic death of Nolan Williams and funding future research through the Saisei Foundation.
• [00:24:23] Aphantasia vs. hyperphantasia, and Joshua Waitzkin's ability to "feel" chess.
• [00:33:12] DORAs for sleep and Alzheimer's prevention: Matt Walker, Belsomra, and the terrifying p-tau blood test.
• [00:41:21] Dale Bredesen's kitchen-sink approach to dementia and the ketogenic connection.
• [00:46:22] The rapid pace of AI development: Why your opinion from three months ago is already obsolete.
• [00:49:40] Google's full-stack advantage: TPUs, Gemini 3, and why they were built for this moment.
• [00:52:50] The future of venture capital: Seed rounds shift later as entrepreneurs gain leverage.
• [00:58:05] Kevin's three AI investment buckets: Power, data centers, and bloated companies ripe for automation.
• [01:02:05] Holiday gift ideas and recommended reading.
• [01:17:41] The Way App and meditation with Zen master Henry Shukman.
• [01:21:44] Kevin's AI stack: Nothing earbuds, Sandbar ring, Notion AI, and the NotebookLM podcast hack.
• [01:26:58] Oboe.fyi: The AI learning platform and my investment philosophy.
• [01:32:09] My new girlfriend, the perils of modern dating apps, and building a communication toolkit.
• [01:38:17] Terry Real's relationship wisdom: Why objective reality has no place in an argument.
• [01:47:18] Dog updates: Molly, a new puppy, and Toaster on rapamycin.
• [01:47:58] Parting thoughts and happy holidays.

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