Therapy Brothers

The Patrick brothers discuss How Can Trauma Be Good For Us.

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

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Caller Emily's Question: "I just listened to episode #57 and episode #92 my question is: what do you do when your partner tells you “you’re just not attractive”.  I have been with my partner for a little over five years. About 2 years ago, I noticed something was “off” in our relationship. His complaint was “the sex we have isn’t intense/fulfilling enough” He used to tell me “I go out into public and see all these women who I am more attracted to” and then describes it as this visceral need to have sex with them. Intellectually I know that it’s okay to be attracted to others but my betrayal trauma brain has a hard time accepting this reality. How do I move through this? Is it possible to reconcile this? What if he is truly not attracted to me? Is that just his addictive parts speaking? s this an effect of his porn addiction? Is he blame-shifting? What is my role and my work to do in this situation so I can be healthy?"

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question and schedule your call!

Caller Tami's Question: "A couple of mths ago I'd responded to a podcast where you'd role played, mentioning that I felt the "betrayer" seemed they were portraying avoidant behavior likely to cause a betrayed to feel there's more secrecy. I am a huge proponent of the betrayed asking anything they want. It has helped me immensely (anxious type- I'll make up and fill holes if I don't know - which is usually worse than the truth!). Anyway, you'd asked about coming on - I'm completely open to it realize that. Also, a more pressing question for me - a yr out from discovery, is the pure hatred I harbor for "the other woman". My husband & I have done therapy, the marathon talks, tears, healing....a lot of work, we are even in the process of considering a vow renewal in July...however, I still harbor such a vengeful spirit and hatred for this "other person" and it makes me feel I'm still tied to the crisis, the past. How do you let that go when you have no positive regard to offset the ill will??? It's a lot to hold."

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question and schedule your call!

Caller Madison's Question: "I am living with an addict and he is not working a program. I have been working a program for 6 years. I have finally decided I have had enough. What are some ways to work through the divorce process without creating lots more damage?"

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question and schedule your call!

The Patrick brothers discuss answers to the question: What Are Some Seemingly Good Beliefs That Actually Harm Your Recovery?

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question and schedule your call!

Caller Beth's Question: "How do I process, heal, and trust my husband again after there has been a betrayal that has devastated our family and our lives? The betrayal is a camera that was found in our downstairs bathroom that is used by my daughter and her friends. We separated when the camera was discovered but are currently living together. He seemed remorseful for a while but now he is refusing to go to counseling with me and he is not taking action towards recovery."

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question and schedule your call!

Caller Kathryn's Question: "Married 41 years. Separated 3.5. On New Year’s Day, he said he wanted to show me sobriety ( from fantasy and masturbation) and he was going to begin with a new CSAT and he wanted us to get together twice a week and start marriage counseling too. None of this has happened. I asked him in a text two weeks ago how his sobriety was going. He said he couldn’t say it was going well. His excuses for not moving back home are his resentment and his lack of sobriety. He has never let me help him yet he acts like a victim. He’s paying the bills but I work too and I have about 6000 saved for divorce or legal separation. I was a stay-at-home Mom. I’m 65. I don’t want to divorce but don’t want to live with him as he is. I don’t really feel married. Friends say I need to be the spark for redemption. I have told him I forgive him and will continue forgiving as it continues to hurt. He date-raped me twice before marriage and created the narrative that we had sex. This is a major trauma. Any suggestions?"

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question and schedule your call!

Caller Rachel's Question: "I’ve been in Alanon since 2006, Sanon since 10/26/21. My husband has been sober for almost 4 years. We have been together off and on over 18 years. I’ve heard that addictions can come in three and I was warned early on that I had a long road with my husband. We’ve both grown independently but not together- it’s been really tragic- two people that are supposed to be professing christians and working programs? If God is in center, why arent we coming together? He told our pastor that he has never been faithful to me, does not believe he’s a sex addict. Identifies Alcoholic and drug addict only- now its ACA and his latest plan is to bring it to our town- his CSAT therapist meets him every Saturday to go through ACA book- I’ve moved upstairs and am giving myself a year like my Sanon program suggest- i have sponsor in both programs and am starting step 3 in Sanon- so excited about what lies ahead as God has been so faithful and loving to me! Thanks!"

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question and schedule your call!

Caller LuAnn's Question: "I am having difficulty in letting go. My husband of 7 years was “found out”. He has hooked up with men, online, met 4 different people that have been admitted to me. I’ve forgiven; he acts like he doesn’t think he needs forgiveness. What is wrong with me that I can’t let go!?"

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question and schedule your call!

Caller Dave's Question: "I attempted to have an affair and was caught. My spouse and I have been working through my addiction recovery and her betrayal trauma recovery. At times she is triggered and talks to me about it to keep communication open and transparent. How do I keep from shaming myself for what I have done to her when she needs me to just listen."

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question and schedule your call!