In this episode, Ty and B tackle attraction! Is it okay to be attracted to people other than your spouse? Listen for their answers!

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Tyler Patrick | "The Wandering Therapist": Tyler is a co-founder Love Strong (lovestrong.com). Check out the Love Strong YouTube Channel for more therapy tips and skills and videos about WHOLEHEARTED living and Christian Based Recovery. Instagram: @love.strong.organization

The Therapy Brothers' are answering their first-ever voice question from a guest! Here, B and Ty respond to a woman's inquiry of navigating intimacy after a body-changing surgery, while considering her husband's pornography addiction. 

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"I am triggered by my husband’s video gaming. He denies it’s an addiction, yet in our 15 years of marriage, unless he’s totally abstinent he’s been unable to control it. I see that it creates many of the same effects that his porn addiction did on our marriage with the lack of connection, empathy, consideration, and fulfilling of responsibilities. It also perpetuates the same character defects in him, mainly avoidance of discomfort, the inability to self-regulate, lack of integrity, and it hinders emotional development and productivity. He asserts that it is a part of who he is and that it would be a form of self-betrayal if he gave them up at my insistence, and yet I feel like when he chooses to over-indulge in them, drags the kids into it and breaks house rules and limits we’ve agreed on -undermining my authority as a parent and setting a bad example for them, when he hides the fact that he’s playing them Instead of working, or even openly declares that he will not stop playing them despite my pleadings -despite my expressing how his playing video games undermines my trust and love and respect for him... when he chooses video games over me, I end up feeling betrayed all over again. He says my reaction to his gaming is the problem and drives his desire to play. He insists that the only way to develop a healthy relationship with video games is to not feel restricted or ashamed and then he’ll automatically only want them in healthy amounts... which logically makes sense, but we vastly disagree on our definition of what’s a “healthy amount” of video games. I just don’t see why he has to have a relationship with them at all when they’re so unnecessary and when it causes so much conflict in our marriage and distress for me. Am I wrong to be so distressed? Is it just my problem with them that’s causing the problem like he says? Is his assertion that it’s just part of who he is a valid argument? What is a healthy amount of video games for an addict? And lastly is it unfair of me to set boundaries around his video gaming and what would a good boundary look like?"

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Tyler Patrick | "The Wandering Therapist": Tyler is a co-founder Love Strong (lovestrong.com). Check out the Love Strong YouTube Channel for more therapy tips and skills and videos about WHOLEHEARTED living and Christian Based Recovery. Instagram: @love.strong.organization

In this episode, Ty discusses surrender and finding triumph through this principle. 

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Tyler Patrick | "The Wandering Therapist": Tyler is a co-founder Love Strong (lovestrong.com). Check out the Love Strong YouTube Channel for more therapy tips and skills and videos about WHOLEHEARTED living and Christian Based Recovery. Instagram: @love.strong.organization

In this episode Brannon dives into some thoughts on masculinity and problems the men face. 

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"My question has to do with trauma around scheduling sex. My husband of almost 15 years (in June) has struggled with a pornography compulsion since his teenage years. He has been sober for almost 3 years now and been in active recovery for a little over 2 years. We both have done specialized therapy on our own and a little together. I have done quite a bit of EMDR for sexual trauma from our marriage. I have also done a lot of my own work on owning and accepting my own sexuality which has helped a lot. However, I still struggle with planning and preparing for sex. We have 3 young children and my husband works a lot of long hours. Being able to schedule sex and for me to get in the mood quicker after kids go to bed would really help our sex life but it seems every time I know that sex is likely to happen or expected to happen (because I am the one suggesting it), I shut down. It’s been very frustrating for me and my husband. He struggles with initiating because of the rejection he felt all the time from me when he was in the throes of his compulsive behavior. What can we do to help work through this? Do you think I may need to do more EMDR? Maybe he needs to do some trauma therapy? Need more time? Not sure how to go about fixing this issue. Thanks so much for your time and your amazing words of wisdom that you so freely share! My life has dramatically changed for the better by listening to your podcasts!"

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"In an episode Tyler referred to a consummate love triangle. I'm wondering if it's possible for one person to feel that love without the other person feeling it?"

"In 2017 after many 15+years of porn addiction and lies my marriage reached a breaking point. I became very sick from all the stress and in 2019 was diagnosed with MS brought on from all the stress in my life . My husband went to therapy and swears he isn’t that same guy anymore but I don’t believe him . I look through his phone and always think the worst because why now did he decide to change . We still don’t have sex because he doesn’t enjoy it , I guess because he has desensitized himself . He is a long haul truck driver and that makes it worsen. At this point I’m ready to just throw in the towel and divorce because I don’t know how I can forget all the pain I have endured . We have been together 25 years and I love him but I just don’t wanna love like this anymore."

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"I was wondering if you could help me. My husband and I have been on the road of recovery for over a year now. We have really been progressing and we still have big hurdles which I know are normal but some of my hurdles I feel like I’m really struggling to grieve through. The disclosures that I am struggling to cope with are: that my husband has admitted to using my body as he has fantasized about other women and at times has come to me for intimacy as an outlet of his arousal from thinking about those other women too. Is there any therapeutic practices that would specifically help with this trauma? I find that I’m dealing with a lot of emotions of feeling violated and used, the worst fact being that it was by own husband who I thought I could trust and who I thought was keeping our promises of fidelity. I guess I still find myself drowning in this emotional pain. Sometimes when my husband expresses his intimacy interest I can find myself internally panicking and instantly turn off any feelings of sexuality. I have boundaries up of where physical interaction only happens after feeling emotionally, spiritually, and physically close. I know my husband’s sex drive is so much higher than mine and he is seeking emotional, etc attachment through sex whereas I need those as a foundation to sex. He expresses that he feels like I “hold all the cards” when it comes to our sexual intimacy. But I feel like he broke all the ties of security, trust, and safety. I feel like these are consequences of his past actions. What can I do? Will consistent steps of recovery be the cure of dealing with these complicated emotions and memories or do I need specific help to move through these insecurities? (If the latter, what kind?)"

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Tyler Patrick | "The Wandering Therapist": Tyler is a co-founder Love Strong (lovestrong.com). Check out the Love Strong YouTube Channel for more therapy tips and skills and videos about WHOLEHEARTED living and Christian Based Recovery. Instagram: @love.strong.organization

"I understand that you started out working in psychiatry. In my family of origin we experienced several psychiatric traumas (brother diagnosed as schizophrenic, sister who experienced postpartum psychosis shortly after her husband passed away). I don’t think we really processed emotionally. I experienced what I would call depression and anxiety through my life, but was never diagnosed. I’ve always felt like there was something in my way or holding me back. Now, as I’ve been married for nearly 10 years and after 5 kids, last year I experienced a breakdown so confusing, painful and traumatic. The theme of it was my relationship with my husband around his use of pornography. (He was exposed as a child, and I don’t believe he’s truly entered real recovery) We both came into the marriage unhealthy or at least immature emotionally, from my perspective. I have gained information from him piecemeal and I have gained information about dealing with pornography slowly as well. These last few months were the first time I’d ever heard of betrayal trauma. It has been so helpful and validating for me, and I have a strong determination to seek healing for myself regardless of his choices. My question is regarding the connectedness of my earlier life traumas and my ability to trust myself with the realities surrounding the present one. I’m wondering what approach to finding truth and understanding is more helpful? Starting with the earlier life traumas to better understand the current situation, vice-versa, or a combination? Is there an approach to therapy that would be more helpful than others for those like me, with mental health/emotional/possibly hormonal challenges that have us believe that we are a bit crazy already? Or in your mind are these challenges just on a continuum and the solutions one and the same? I really enjoy the podcasts I’ve heard you on (I discovered the betrayed, the addicted and the expert first) and have started your boundary boot camp. Thank you for your work!" 

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"Shut down! My husband had an affair, d-day was 14 months ago, and he is still in what I call shut down. We have the classic semi toxic codependant relationship, Im the anxious attached and he is the avoidant. The more he freezes and disassociate, the more my fight mode and anger rises, I call it my bulldozer... and you know how the rest of that dynamic goes! I have actually chosen to leave, because I don't think there is any future for the marriage, as long as he is so shut down. A part of me still wants to spend my life with him, but I am his biggest trigger, and he is mine, and it just seems hopeless as things are now. Prior to him cheating, he had some tough years, made very bad choices, that only made things worse, and I would say he was getting more and more depressed. Then he cheated, and now the depression is really bad. His go to answer, to what I feel like is almost everything, is "I don't know". My questions are where would you suggest someone like that to start in their healing process? What could be some good first steps? And how do you know if your disassociation comes from trauma or if there might be need for a diagnosis? I really love both your podcasts, and your youtube channel is great! I am really grateful and appreciative for all the work you put into bringing the help, hope and knowledge out! Thank you!"

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Brannon Patrick | "The Expert": Follow Brannon on instagram @brannon_patrick. For more info, find him at brannonpatrick.com. Check out Brannon's Boundary Bootcamp on his website.

Tyler Patrick | "The Wandering Therapist": Tyler is a co-founder Love Strong (lovestrong.com). Check out the Love Strong YouTube Channel for more therapy tips and skills and videos about WHOLEHEARTED living and Christian Based Recovery. Instagram: @love.strong.organization