Therapy Brothers

Caller Adriene's Question: "This question is for your last podcast regarding what works and doesn’t work in betrayal trauma recovery. I do agree with everything that was said in there. However, as someone who has been through betrayal trauma, addiction with her spouse, and abuse with her spouse I just wish the abuse part could be validated a little bit more. I agree that the abuse model can keep us stuck so we need to change up the model a little bit. However, once I learned about abuse and put a name to what I was experiencing that was when full healing began and I stopped being the fantasy wife for my husband and really upped my safety and boundaries. That’s actually what made him want to change. When we just focused on the addiction it ended up feeding his entitlement and integrity problems. So in my opinion knowing about the emotional and psychological abuse of an addict changes everything. At least it did for me. do you think that addiction and abuse are two separate things but that addiction can exaggerate abuse tenfold?"

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question and schedule your call!

Pam's Question: Why does it feel like when I got better my partner got worse?

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question and schedule your call!

With the recent ridiculous scene from the Oscars, Tyler and Brannon break down the absurdity and talk about where toxic masculinity was showcased instead of real masculinity. 

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question and schedule your call!

Caller Emily's Question: "I’ve been through most of the models over the past 15 years. I agree that the model needs constant growth… are you familiar with Vicki Tidwell Palmer? Her moving being betrayal book and courses are some of the best I’ve seen. It is so refreshing to have a therapist who understands and validates betrayal and whose goal is to MOVE you BEYOND it. We are still married, 21 years and still trying to gain connection and closeness in marriage. One piece that I feel you may be missing (or maybe I just haven’t heard you speak to it) is that I don’t feel that the betrayed is able/ should be asked to be the person to give compassion and understand/support/accountability for the betrayer. I’ve been to a lot of therapists who wanted to focus on my lack of compassion for my husband. I have an enormous amount of compassion for the sad scared little boy in him who does not love himself. What is true is that in trauma, betrayal, pain, and personal healing I am not able to be the friend he needs."

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question and schedule your call!

The 2 Brothers meet this week to talk about "safe" marriages where there is no fulfillment or growth within the relationship.

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to help answer some of your questions related to sex addiction recovery and betrayal trauma healing. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question!

Caller Lucy asked: "I was married to my husband for 40 years when he passed away from cancer. Three weeks before he passed I found out he was having an affair. He passed three years ago and I have since found out our whole marriage was based on lies. I have not told anyone about what I have found, It has truly made it very hard for me to move forward . I need to move forward! My question is do I share this information with my adult children? Our lives with my husband was based on beautiful lies and ugly truths. Please help me have the courage to move forward."

Our Radiant Dawn Women's Conference is coming up soon and we have a few more passes available. This event will be life-changing and unforgettable. If you're on the fence about it, make the commitment and join us and 29 other incredible women on an experiential journey of healing and growth. https://radiantdawnconference.com

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to help answer some of your questions related to sex addiction recovery and betrayal trauma healing. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question!

Caller Chelsea, "My husband has used some porn as a form of escapism, but never really an addiction. His real addiction has been alcohol. He is currently 3 months sober, but it seems like his goal in this is to show me that the alcohol was never really the problem in our marriage, but that the real problem was/is me. He makes zero effort to move toward the relationship, giving me the silent treatment. When I force him to talk, or at minimum listen to what I have to say, he refutes most everything I say that I am feeling. I have begged him to go to couples counseling, but he refuses, saying that I don’t really want to resolve anything, I just want a place to be able to level him with anger into compliance with the approval of an “expert”. He won’t make any agreements regarding how we share our time, money and space. I have restarted individual counseling, and am trying to figure out boundaries, but it is so confusing when we share so much in life.

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to help answer some of your questions related to sex addiction recovery and betrayal trauma healing. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question!

Caller Claire's Question: "My husband and I have been listening to your podcast for a couple of weeks now and appreciate your insight into this difficult subject. We are at the beginning of recovery but find ourselves in the position of having our roles swapped. I, the wife have the sex addiction and my husband is working through the betrayal trauma. My question is whether you have any insight into female sex addiction or any resources that would be helpful for us. I am finding it difficult to find accurate information that I can relate to. It took nearly two years to diagnose my addiction as it was initially presenting in a way that is not traditionally considered "sex" addiction. It recently escalated into more blatant sexual acting out and that's when we were able to more fully understand what was going on with me. I wish there had been more information and understanding early on so we could have addressed it before it escalated."

Our Radiant Dawn Women's Conference is coming up soon and we have a few more passes available. This event will be life-changing and unforgettable. If you're on the fence about it, make the commitment and join us and 29 other incredible women on an experiential journey of healing and growth. https://radiantdawnconference.com

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to help answer some of your questions related to sex addiction recovery and betrayal trauma healing. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question!

Brannon & Tyler have a deep dive into the way we view the process we're in. 

Our Radiant Dawn Women's Conference is coming up soon and we have a few more passes available. This event will be life-changing and unforgettable. If you're on the fence about it, make the commitment and join us and 29 other incredible women on an experiential journey of healing and growth. https://radiantdawnconference.com

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question and schedule your call!

For those that aren't aware, Brannon had another podcast called the Betrayed, The Addicted, And The Expert where he cohosted the podcast with a married couple named Coby & Ashlynn. The show ran for 4 years and revealed the inner workings of betrayal and trauma within a relationship and the added insight of a qualified therapist helping them break down some of the topics that challenge couples in this difficult terrain. The Podcast concluded (the feed is still active) when Coby announced that he was seeking a divorce. Almost a year has passed since that time and now Brannon has felt it's his responsibility to speak up about some of the unhealthy elements that were a part of the dissolution of the podcast and more importantly the relationships that had previously inspired so much hope on a weekly basis.

Our Radiant Dawn Women's Conference is coming up soon and we have a few more passes available. This event will be life-changing and unforgettable. If you're on the fence about it, make the commitment and join us and 29 other incredible women on an experiential journey of healing and growth. https://radiantdawnconference.com

Tyler Patrick, "The Wandering Therapist", is co-founder of Love Strong (lovestrong.com), a Christian-based Recovery + WHOLEHEARTED living therapy practice. If you'd like to work with Love Strong via telehealth or in-person, reach out to us at [email protected] or go to our website: https://lovestrong.com. We have a great online Foundations Of Recovery Class starting soon. This class is for sex addiction recovery and healing from betrayal trauma. Go to https://lovestrong.com/services/foundations-group/ to learn more and sign up.

Brannon Patrick, "The Expert", is co-founder of Therapy Utah (therapyutah.org). You can follow Brannon on Instagram @brannon_patrick. He has some really great online courses available at brannonpatrick.com like his Boundary Bootcamp course. Brannon has a program called L.I.F.T. for betrayal trauma and addiction recovery available online starting soon. Go to https://www.liftforrecovery.com/ for more info!

Join us for one of our "Life-Changing" retreats. therapybros.com/events

We would love to have you as a guest on the podcast. Go to realtalkrecovery.com to submit your question and schedule your call!