The Hard Way With Joe De Sena

This Teen Takes on Brutal Swim to Prove Struggle Heals


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What happens when a 17-year-old signs up to swim 34km across freezing water—no wetsuit, no excuses—all to raise awareness for men's mental health? In this raw, high-impact episode, Barney Ryder joins Joe De Sena to share how choosing discomfort, facing failure, and embracing the cold shaped his mind more than any victory ever could. They talk resilience, grit, the power of movement over words, and why real change starts where comfort ends. If you've ever needed a push to stop talking and start doing—this is it. Timestamps: 00:00 Into 00:38 Meet Swimmer Barney Rider 01:02 Swimming the English Channel 02:12 The Biggest Mental Struggle 04:08 Gaining Weight to Survive 04:42 Overcoming the Failure 05:28 Success Can Be a Trap 06:36 Growth Needs Harsh Conditions 07:29 Mission: Men's Mental Health 09:13 Talk Less, Move More 11:24 Swimming with His Dad 13:15 Advice for Struggling Youth 14:15 Push Past Comfort Zones 15:52 Just Start, Figure Later 16:44 Big Swim Plans Ahead 18:23 How to Support Barney Connect to Barney: Website: JustGiving – Barnaby Ryder Channel Swim Instagram: @barnaby_ryder_
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