Topline

Topline

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Topline episodes

  • E95: Growth vs. Efficiency in 2025

    In this episode, hosts Sam, AJ, and Asad dive into the strategic choices behind building teams in Latin America, focusing on compensation arbitrage and offshoring. They offer guidance for junior talent in North America, who now face competition from equally skilled and cost-effective professionals abroad, all while navigating the impact of AI on traditional roles. The conversation also tackles the challenge of hiring sales reps for complex deals and whether AI can handle routine tasks, freeing up sales talent to focus on creativity and strategic deal-making. Finally, the hosts discuss OpenAI's Deep Research release, exploring how it might be integrated into products and the operational benefits it could bring to businesses.

    Are you being paid what you're worth? Help us refresh Pavilion's industry-standard compensation report for 2025 by taking our anonymous survey at joinpavilion.com/comp and get early access to the results!

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    1 hr 12 min
  • SPOTLIGHT: Co-CEO Alina Vandenberghe on Taking Over Marketing to Scale Demand at Chili Piper

    In this episode of Topline Spotlight, hosts Sam Jacobs and Asad Zaman sit down with Alina Vandenberg, co-CEO of Chili Piper, to discuss the significant challenges she faced and overcame in her dual role as acting CMO. Alina delves into the complexities of scaling a rapidly growing company while maintaining a cohesive marketing strategy. She shares how she tackled the challenge of aligning data-driven marketing efforts with business goals, utilizing tools like Snowflake to enhance targeted outreach. Alina also addresses the creative hurdles of standing out in a saturated market, revealing how she employs humor and provocation to engage audiences effectively.

    Catch new episodes of Topline Spotlight every Thursday and full episodes of Topline every Sunday.

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    Listen to The Revenue Leadership Podcast with Kyle Norton every Wednesday.

    28 min
  • E94: Navigating AI Challenges in Established Tech Companies

    In this episode of Topline, Sam Jacobs, AJ Bruno, and Asad Zaman explore AI's growing influence on go-to-market strategy, growth, and operations. They break down the difference between AI-first and AI-enabled companies, why some integrate AI seamlessly while others fall behind, and the operational roadblocks leaders face. The conversation covers the rise of AI Ops roles, legal pushback on AI-driven data usage, and how outdated go-to-market strategies are being disrupted. They also discuss why incentive compensation should extend beyond sales teams and why companies that resist AI risk being left behind.

    Are you being paid what you're worth? Help us refresh Pavilion's industry-standard compensation report for 2025 by taking our anonymous survey at joinpavilion.com/comp and get early access to the results!

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    57 min
  • SPOTLIGHT: Keith Frankel of Totango on Creating a Unified Culture in Mergers

    In this episode of Topline Spotlight, hosts Sam Jacobs, AJ Bruno, and Asad Zaman speak with Keith Frankel, Chief Product Officer at Totango, to explore the intricacies of merging company cultures post-acquisition. Keith shares his journey from founding enterprise AI companies to leading product teams at Totango, highlighting the challenges of integrating distinct cultures and product lines. The discussion delves into strategies for addressing cultural divides, emphasizing the importance of confronting uncomfortable issues to foster a unified company identity. Keith also outlines operational changes that blend teams across regions and enforce consistent processes.

    Catch new episodes of Topline Spotlight every Thursday and full episodes of Topline every Sunday.

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    Listen to The Revenue Leadership Podcast with Kyle Norton every Wednesday.

    22 min
  • E93: Dissecting Carta's 2024 State of Startups Report

    In this episode of Topline, hosts Sam Jacobs, AJ Bruno, and Asad Zaman review insights from Carta's State of Startups 2024 report. They explore the rise of down rounds in 2023 and 2024, highlighting the financial challenges many startups face today. The conversation shifts to the increasing prevalence of solo founders, noting a significant rise from 17% in 2017 to 36% in 2024. The trio also examines AI's transformative impact on business decision-making, sharing personal experiences with tools like ChatGPT. Finally, they delve into shifting company cultures and management practices, offering insights into how leaders can navigate these changes while focusing on personal development strategies.

    View Carta State of Startups 2024 report.

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    1 hr 15 min
  • SPOTLIGHT: OrgChart's Tom McCarty on Narrowing Total Addressable Market to Drive Growth

    Topline is excited to introduce our newest segment – Topline Spotlight. In this series, our hosts sit down with top B2B tech leaders to explore the biggest challenges they've faced and how they conquered them.

    In this episode of Topline Spotlight, our hosts sit down with Tom McCarty, CEO of Org Chart, to discuss a pivotal challenge he faced: narrowing the total addressable market (TAM) to drive better growth. As a first-time CEO of a private equity-backed company, Tom shares his strategic approach to refining market focus, which led to more effective growth strategies. He also provides insights for aspiring CEOs, highlighting the value of selecting the right partners and viewing challenges as avenues for personal and professional development.

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    20 min
  • E92: Kyle Norton of Owner.com on How Great CROs Drive Enterprise Value

    In this episode of Topline, Asad and AJ are joined by Kyle Norton, CRO of Owner.com and Host of The Revenue Leadership Podcast. They explore the evolving role of the CRO, highlighting the diverse characteristics of successful leaders in this position. The conversation also delves into the transformative impact of AI advancements, particularly the implications of GPT-3 and GPT-4 models on business operations and workforce dynamics. Kyle shares insights on how AI might reduce the need for middle management, prompting companies to rethink growth strategies.

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    1 hr 17 min
  • SPOTLIGHT: Jenny Podewils' Strategy for Aligning Teams in Dynamic Environments

    Topline is excited to introduce our newest segment – Topline Spotlight. In this series, our hosts sit down with top B2B tech leaders to explore the biggest challenges they've faced and how they conquered them.

    This week Sam, AJ, and Asad are joined by Jenny Podewils, Co-CEO and Co-Founder of Leapsome, to discuss the real-world challenges Leapsome faces in the ever-evolving HR tech scene. Jenny shares her journey, highlighting how AI is a game-changer for team performance and HR efficiency. She talks about Leapsome's bold move into the Human Resource Information System market and what it's like to steer a global company. Jenny's candid insights offer practical takeaways on using AI to transform business operations and why automation is crucial for managing a modern workforce.

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    Listen to The Revenue Leadership Podcast with Kyle Norton every Wednesday.

    20 min
  • E91: Investor Tomasz Tunguz on AI's Breakout Year and What Comes Next

    Investor and AI power user Tomasz Tunguz joins the show to break down his bold predictions for 2025. From startups with 30 employees hitting $100M ARR to the explosive productivity gains driven by AI, Tomasz explains how automation is reshaping the tech landscape. Tomasz, Sam, AJ, and Asad dive into his personal AI-driven workflows, the future of SaaS, why big enterprises might benefit from AI before startups disrupt them, and more.

    Topline by Pavilion is also proud to debut The Revenue Leadership Podcast with Kyle Norton. Listen now.

    Attention CEOs and Founders! Join Pavilion at the CEO Summit on January 23rd in vibrant New Orleans. Don't miss out—reserve your spot today!

    Want more Topline? Join the Topline Slack channel to engage with hosts, guests, and other listeners and subscribe to Topline Newsletter.

    1 hr 10 min
  • SPOTLIGHT: Lessons and Insights on Leading Through Layoffs from AJ Bruno, CEO of QuotaPath

    Topline is excited to introduce our newest segment – Topline Spotlight. In this series, our hosts sit down with top B2B tech leaders to explore the biggest challenges they've faced and how they conquered them.

    For the debut episode, Sam and Asad interview AJ Bruno, CEO of QuotaPath and co-host of Topline, to reflect on his experience navigating significant headcount cuts nearly two years ago. AJ opens up about the emotional and strategic challenges of reducing his workforce by 30%, the effect on company morale, and the surprising advantages of operating with a leaner team. He shares valuable insights on aligning organizational goals with top talent and the key lessons he's carried forward.

    Want more from Topline?

    Subscribe to Topline Newsletter written and edited by Asad Zaman.

    Join the free public Topline Slack channel to engage with hosts, guests, and other listeners.

    Listen to The Revenue Leadership Podcast with Kyle Norton every Wednesday.

    16 min

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