In this episode of Dysfunctional, I’m joined by relationship recovery coach Jo Westwood for a deep, honest conversation about toxic relationships, codependency, and what real self-worth actually sounds like in practice.

We talk about love bombing and how to spot it early, the moment “the switch” happens after commitment, and why being nice, polite, or endlessly understanding can quietly turn into self-abandonment.

We also unpack why so many people rush to defend power, fame, and parents at all costs, using the viral Anthony Hopkins estrangement clip as a real-world example of how society struggles with accountability, family loyalty myths, and reading the energy behind someone’s words.

This is a conversation about slowing down, trusting your instincts, and learning to say:

“You don’t know me well enough yet.”

And meaning it.

We explore:

The difference between love bombing and genuine connection

Why codependent people can be manipulative without meaning to be

The “special one” fantasy and how it keeps people stuck

Why healthy relationships can handle a slow start

Estrangement, boundaries, and the myth of unconditional family loyalty

Politeness vs kindness, and why people-pleasing pushes people away

Why abusive people don’t cut you off, and why survivors often have to

This episode isn’t about blame, cancel culture, or perfect healing.

It’s about self-reflection, personal responsibility, and building relationships that don’t require you to disappear to keep the peace.

If you’ve ever felt confused, drained, or like you keep ending up in the same painful dynamics, this one’s for you.

Find Jo:

Website: http://jowestwood.com

IG: http://instagram.com/jowestwood

The Anti People Pleasing Podcast link:

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-anti-people-pleasing-podcast/id1576679526

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4av63LLVwYNt8MNMu8Ygar

Audible: https://www.audible.co.uk/podcast/The-Anti-People-Pleasing-Podcast/B08K61YDSF

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