In this episode, I am excited about today's conversation with Travis Chappell. Travis is somebody that I've just bumped into from being in the podcast space when I started to learn more about him and understand his journey to creating what's arguable, one of the biggest podcasts on planet earth. I wanted to talk to him but not about business and instead about life, how you build confidence, work through failure, take responsibility, and ultimately this thing that we do to try to show up for ourselves.

Travis's journey was laid out in front of him; by the time he was 21, he was married, had a house, had a mortgage, had a college degree, had all these things because that's what the world wanted him to have. And then he found as he stepped into creating his life that maybe that's not what he wanted. This is a really beautiful and profound conversation. I hope that you'll take some time to listen here today. Grab a notebook because I'm telling you right now, there's a tremendous amount of value that Travis will deliver for us today.

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