In this episode of Grow, Scale, Master, Kon Stathopoulos and Josh Phegan look at ways to deal with turbulence in the new world. They discuss the importance of face-to-face to performing at your best, the traffic light system for grading your listings, and using logic to get to sold.

They continue with dialling in on process, better buyer work and how turbulence creates opportunity. Josh illustrates actions to build relationship, Kon ponders what it's like to be your client, and they share their views around knowing where to place your big bets in life.