The Scrum V team scramble to react to the shock news of Alun Wyn Jones and Justin Tipuric's sudden retirements from international rugby.

Gareth Rhys Owen and Lauren Jenkins are joined by former Ospreys head coach Sean Holley and BBC Wales rugby reporter Gareth Griffiths.

They look back at Jones and Tipuric's stellar careers for Wales but ask why have they gone? And, just months before a World Cup, why now?