Liz and Michelle welcome ex Blue Peter presenter, Katy Hill, to their new 'Wendy-house'-style TWC studio in the garden.

Katy is a personal development and empowerment coach, speaker, podcaster, BAFTA, and NTA award-winning broadcaster, and writer. She is well known as the daredevil Blue Peter presenter who was the first civilian to fly with the Red Arrows and the first woman to present the Hit40UK show.

Katy was tenacious in her goals, badgering the editor of Blue Peter with showreels until she got the audition that kickstarted her remarkable career. 

Given her achievements, it´s hard to believe that she describes herself as ‘the shy girl’ at school! 

Overcoming this crippling shyness has inspired her to train extensively as a Personal Development Coach and NLP Practitioner and found LIMITLESS By Katy Hill. She coaches women, empowering them to recognise what they want, then overcome their fears and societal resistance to get exactly that. It's not uncommon that midlife women 'lose' themselves and have less confidence. Life coaches can help their clients get back on track with a gameplan to achieve their goals during our empowering second spring.

KEY TAKEAWAYS 

• At some point in their lives, most women lose themselves.
• Women tend to put the needs of others before theirs.
• Over time many women´s lives narrow to the point where they are confined to “playing chopsticks” instead of being able to enjoy playing the whole keyboard.
• It´s about taking action. You have to commit to change.
• Midlife really is your second spring.

BEST MOMENTS 

“Girls still got sewing kits for Christmas, I didn´t want a sewing kit, I wanted to drive a fast-racing car.”

“I´ve talked to so many women in midlife who say they’ve lost themselves”

“I look on midlife as such a gift”

“It´s no good getting all of the knowledge if you are not going to implement it.”

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ABOUT KATY HILL

Katy Hill is a Personal Development and Empowerment Coach, Speaker, Podcaster, award-winning broadcaster, and writer. Possibly best known by our listeners as a daredevil Blue Peter presenter who was the first civilian to fly with the Red Arrows during her six-year stint on the prestigious children’s tv show.

After fronting other iconic tv shows in the UK and hosting radio breakfast shows CapitalFM and Heart she ticked off another first by becoming the first woman to host a network chart with Hit40UK

After training extensively as a Personal Development Coach and NLP Practitioner - she has founded LIMITLESS By Katy Hill offering 1:1 Coaching, Keynote Speaking, Workshops, and Online Courses

EPISODE RESOURCES 

LIMITLESS

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To create this star-studded midlife montage episode, Michelle went to meet three fabulous women – Dame Judi Dench, her actress daughter Finty Williams and star of screen and stage, Jenny Seagrove. In the first of a series of montages to celebrate being a midlife or older woman, Michelle asked them all what was the best thing about life in our second spring.

Liz and Michelle chat about Jenny Seagrove's charity Mane Chance Sanctuary that rescues and rehabilitates horses with the community,  Dame Judi's tik-tok star grandson, Sam William, dancing with Louis Theroux, Skyfall filming anecdotes and how Judy Dench uses her photographic memory to help her work despite age-related macular degeneration, diagnosed in 2012.

“In my mind’s eye I'm 6 feet and willowy and about 39,” she told the Guardian in an interview in 2021.

You'll be glad to know Dame Judi did not disappoint - her warmth, laughter and personality shone through, despite her 88 years she is as vibrant as ever - and quite the tik-tok dancer!

KEY TAKEAWAYS 

• Whether you see yourself as old is down to how you think about age.
• Being a midlife woman translates into freedom to do what you want.
• The older you get, the less what others think matters.
• Being around young people, staying active, and doing what you love keeps you feeling young, regardless of age.

BEST MOMENTS 

“There is no such thing as an older woman. You still feel incessantly young and ridiculous, but you don´t care so much.”

“I don´t have to worry about whether I´m the thinnest or the most glamorous.”

“Clint Eastwood said – don´t let the old man in, the same goes for women”

“That´s why god gave me elbows.”

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Mane Chance Sanctuary

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Liz Copping is a networking pro & event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast.

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Michelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting!

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PODCAST DESCRIPTION

Join hosts Liz and Michelle redefining life over 50 as empty nesters, embracing the highs and lows of midlife with celebrity guests and experts, sharing a laugh on their podcast sofa. We talk about real concerns, issues, and fun topics that affect us, our friends, and our family. 

Midlife is not just about the menopause (although we’d be the first to admit it’s right up there!) but it is a time of adventure, change and reset - with plenty of opportunities and challenges along the way. 

Whether we’re chatting about ‘boomerang kids,’ diet failures (and occasional successes!), pro-ageing, travel, changing relationships, or inspiration for new jobs or activities, there’s always room for one more on our sofa.

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On this episode, Liz and Michelle are joined by successful author and award-winning journalist, Alice Hart-Davis.

The world is changing fast and having cosmetic work ‘done’ is more common and normalised than ever, especially among celebrities. What are ‘tweakments’, why do we often feel the need to alter ourselves as we age and if you’re considering it what do you need to know? Alice, Liz and Michelle discuss all these questions and more in an open conversation all about tweakments, including Alice’s own knowledge and her expert guide: ‘The Tweakments Guide’

KEY TAKEAWAYS 

• Tweakments are non-surgical cosmetic medical procedures. 
• Only consider having Tweakments done by an expert. In the UK, there are a lot of untrained people offering these services, so research carefully.
• A good practitioner will spend a lot of time studying your face while talking to you, so they can provide you with treatments that are tailored to the way your face looks and moves.
• Aging is complex with many factors, you often need a variety of treatments for the best result.
• Take a gentle approach, try one treatment. Then, if you like the results you can do it again and maybe try something else too.
• Wanting to look your best is not vanity. It's all about what is right for you.

BEST MOMENTS 

“I feel good when I look a bit better if I’m honest and I’m not anti-aging”

“These are cosmetic medical procedures. They involve needles, local anaesthetic, or energy-based devices.”

“The consultation becomes almost the most important part of the whole treatment journey.”

“There's no one tweak that will fix it all.”

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Wentworth Aesthetics

The Tweakments Guide Website

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ABOUT THE GUEST

For over 20 years, Alice Hart-Davis has written about skincare, beauty, anti aging, cosmetic procedures and health for The Telegraph, the Mail on Sunday, the London Evening Standard and many others.

That wealth of knowledge that has enabled her to create The Tweakments Guide. Her content platform provides independent information about non-surgical aesthetic treatments, like fillers and lasers. It is a great resource to find out what procedures are available, what it involves and how to find the best practitioner. 

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Liz and Michelle are joined in this episode by Toni Hargis to chat about recognising and dealing with sexism in today's world. A subject that author and columnist Toni covers in her book – How to Stand Up to Sexism.

They discuss why, even today, most of us still just accept sexism. As well as, how to empower ourselves, our daughters, and our sisters not to ignore or put up with it anymore. Explaining how we can embrace equity so we can all live in a gender-equal world without bias, stereotypes, and discrimination. They share practical, simple-to-implement ways to do exactly that. Things everyone, male or female, can do to turn the tide.

KEY TAKEAWAYS 

• Sexism is treating one sex differently from the other to their disadvantage, which creates a toxic power balance.
• As well as explaining to our girls what sexism looks like and how to deal with it, we need to educate our boys.
• There is still a lot of passive sexism e.g. always asking the only woman in the meeting to take the notes.
• When challenging sexism, what you say, how, and when all need to be weighed up. Toni´s book includes a range of approaches that can easily be adapted to each situation.
• Eleanor Roosevelt said "No one can make you feel inferior without consent." She is right, people pick on submissive people.
• Women are constantly told to be nice, so we tend to let people interrupt us, not let us speak, or ignore what we are saying.
• Nobody says to men they can't have it all - but they will say that to women.
• Sexism works against men too. It puts them in a box and restricts their choices.

Thank goodness for this book. It's a must-read for anyone who wants attitudes to change." Victoria Derbyshire, British journalist, newsreader and broadcaster.

BEST MOMENTS 

“It is education of what it (sexism) is, as well as educating boys not to behave in a certain way.”

“Everybody has to challenge it (sexism). If you´re standing back saying nothing, you´re part of the problem.”

“Younger women don't have the skills, experience, or confidence.”

“There´s a lot of emphasis at the moment on bystander intervention.”

“I thought it might be a man-bashing book. It is certainly not, quite the opposite.”

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How to Stand Up to Sexism by Toni Summers Hargis

Laura Bate's TEDx about Sexism

Toni Hargis Twitter

Toni´s website 

ABOUT THE GUEST – TONI HARGIS

Toni Summers Hargis is an author and columnist. She's got a law degree and a master's in Organisational Development and has spent years working in corporate HR training and organizational consulting. 

Toni has always been ardent and vocal about women's rights and equality. When her daughter recently entered the workplace, she was reminded again that despite the efforts of older women and society as a whole sexism was still a huge problem. A realisation that motivated her to write her book How To Stand Up to Sexism. 

It is a refreshingly down-to-earth and practical book that covers how to recognise and deal with sexism. Toni has written it in a way that equips anyone, male or female, to tackle the issue in an effective and safe way.

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Almost everyone has suffered from a broken heart in their lifetime... from that crushing first love loss to longer more mature relationships but rejection during midlife when a relationship breaks down after decades is so devastating with kids, houses, bank accounts, longstanding friends and family all adding to the complexity of a couple uncoupling whether that's by choice or, sadly, not.

Liz and Michelle are joined in this episode by Rosie Green, an awarding winning journalist and beauty editor who writes a weekly column in The Mail On Sunday, is a relationships expert on ITV’s This Morning and is the author of the best selling book ‘How To Heal A Broken Heart.'

Rosie talks candidly about what she went through after her husband of 26 years suddenly walked out on her and, perhaps more importantly, how she healed.

Rosie wrote her brutally honest yet often humorous book to help women in similar positions heal faster and move on. Marian Keyes described it as honest, comforting, and hopeful and Venessa Feltz said it describes what a broken heart actually feels like. During the podcast, Rosie talks through navigating the various stages of heartbreak and the road to being happy again.

KEY TAKEAWAYS 

• A lot of women don´t recognise or ignore the warning signs of infidelity. Rosie explains what they are.
• Often the person who is being unfaithful will feel guilt which translates into them blaming you and being angrier than usual.
• Rejection leaves deep scars.
• If you can afford it get professional help, do so. You can be brutally honest and speak openly with them in a way it is hard to do with friends and family.
• When you are heartbroken your body is under a lot of physical strain, so eating nourishing food is important.
• If you find yourself in a negative spiral, don´t be afraid to ask for help to break that cycle and do so sooner rather than later.
• You need to set boundaries and make sure you are not walked over.

BEST MOMENTS 

“Pretty much everybody has experienced heartbreak in one way or another.”

“Your book is brutally honest without being bitter.”

“It´s one of the few books that actually describes what a broken heart feels like.”

“Just because one person doesn’t want you doesn’t mean that you're unlovable.”

“I tried some of my summer clothes on - The only thing that I can fit into is my shoes!”

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Rosie Green’s book – How to Heal a Broken Heart

Life's Rosie website

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Rosie Green is an award-winning journalist who writes a weekly column in the Mail on Sunday. She's a relationships expert on ITV´s This Morning and was a beauty director for 20 years for glossy magazines Elle and Red. She was also Trinny and Susannah´s assistant.

When, without any warning, her husband of 26 years walked out on her, she was understandably devastated. But out of this shocking life event came something good. It prompted Rosie to write a book - How to Heal a Broken Heart. It is a heart-warming, optimistic, and sometimes humorous look at what it is like to experience the heartbreak of divorce. The book is full of practical advice designed to help women heal faster and move on. Something that has led The Times to call her the poster girl for divorce.

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This week Liz and Michelle are joined by the irrepressible Angie Best. an alternative health expert and founder of Absolute Best. Angie was a former model who married the legendary English footballer, George Best, with whom she had her son Calum. a huge reality star and TV personality. 

Angie has worked for decades with body health and confidence: experience that she tapped into to create the Absolute Best CBD oil and skincare range. They chat to her about the joys of a 'second spring' and enjoying life as a mature woman.

KEY TAKEAWAYS 

• CBD has been demonised for decades, but things are changing, and its many benefits are once again being understood.
• Our bodies have a system of endocannabinoid receptors, which the CBD fills up again, fixing so many things in the process.
• When your endocannabinoid system is out of balance the others cannot operate effectively. When you fix that imbalance, all of the body´s other systems work better.
• Most of the CBD sold in stores is only an isolate. The products Absolute Best sells are broad spectrum.
• CBD can be rubbed into the soles of the feet.
• Using CBD allows your brain to create more serotonin, which enables it to calm down.
• The Japanese call the menopause your second spring.

BEST MOMENTS 

“You can take your CBD and fix so much”

“The reason it can help with so much, including menopause, is because your body needs it.”

“The CBD works in your brain; you have receptors for it.”

“There's so much that we can do in that latter part of our lives.”

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Liz and Michelle are joined in this episode by Marianne Jones, to discuss why so many women burn out during midlife, which is exactly what happened to Marianne. She is an award-winning editor, writer, podcaster, and brand & content director who works with the nation’s biggest newspapers and magazines. About 18 months ago, Marianne ended up in A&E and was told she needed to take a significant period off work to recover from burnout. It was tough to do, but the change resulted in a more balanced and positive way of living and has created new opportunities.

Midlife burnout is becoming increasingly common, particularly for women. To the point where the World Health Organization (WHO) has now recognised the issue. Marianne talks about what happened to her, and how working from home and letting work define who she was contributed to the situation. She also shares the steps she has taken to recover and build a more balanced life.

KEY TAKEAWAYS 

• The lines between work and home have become increasingly blurred, making it harder to switch off.
• Being constantly stretched and frenetically busy takes a huge toll on your physical health.
• Being tired but so wired you can´t fall asleep is a big warning sign.
• If people around you notice changes in your behaviour or worry you are too stressed, listen to them.
• It is OK to stop and take a break. In fact, it is essential.
• Throughout the day decompress, Marianne shares several ways to do that.
• Midlife is a good time to pause, take stock, and start to do things differently. Don´t miss out on the chance to take some of the pressure off and enjoy life more.

BEST MOMENTS 

“Covid has blurred the lines a lot between home and work life.”

“Your body just cannot cope, at this stage of life, with what your mind is going through.”

“It just felt like I had woken up one day having been flung off a fairground ride onto a sofa with hypertension and the Cockapoo.”

“You're still using your skills and abilities, but just not doing so much.”

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Sunday Times article by Marianne Jones about Midlife Burnout

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Liz and Michelle are joined in this episode by Melinda Messenger, mum of three adult children who is a former Page Three girl and TV presenter. In 2015 she began practising as a qualified psychotherapist. In early April, with The Adventure Boutique, she is taking part in a trek to support the Liang Tang region of Nepal, which was devastated by an earthquake in 2015. And It’s not too late for you to join her!

Melinda provides an insight into what it was like to be a Page Three glamour model, including how her view about doing that type of work changed over time. She also talks about her work as a transpersonal integrative psychotherapist. They also discuss the ups and downs of being a parent, personal relationships, and why dating apps are not for her.

KEY TAKEAWAYS 

• Despite being willing to model topless, Melinda now realises that it was still a kind of exploitation.
• Be mindful of what you let into your life and where you let it in from, including on social media.
• Identify the things that drain your energy and stay away from them.
• The transpersonal is the part of us that is greater than just our psychological makeup. Who we are underneath it all.
• Being able to identify behavioural patterns helps you to identify the root of your issues, which is essential if you want things to change.
• Melinda helps people to untangle the threads and facilitates people healing to regain control over their lives.

BEST MOMENTS 

“I was also complicit in exploiting myself, in a sense.”

“When people comment it is a reflection of how they view life, themselves, and others. It's actually got nothing to do with me.”

“Anything that's asking for your attention is either going to take or feed your energy.”

“Life is about navigating between the depths of the ocean and riding the waves.”

“I could use a different name and a different picture, but that’s not really the best start to a new relationship.”

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The Adventure Boutique Website

ABOUT THE GUESTS

Melinda shot to fame after being spotted on a billboard ad she did for a windows firm in Swindon in 1997. It was an advert that made an impact - so much so that all the posters were stolen! 

Despite this vote of confidence, at one stage Melinda felt so self-conscious that she started using heavy makeup to cover up and try to bury those feelings.

She went on to become an English television presenter, glamour model, and Page Three girl. Melinda presented the magazine programme Live from Studio Five and was formerly the co-presenter of the reality show Cowboy Builders.

Mum to three and now an empty nester, she parted ways with her ex-husband Wayne Roberts in 2012, and she admitted last year that she wanted to start dating again.

After quitting regular television work, Melinda undertook training in psychotherapy and has practised since 2015. Now she has a new challenge, taking part in a trek to support the Langtang region of Nepal which was devastated by the 2015 earthquake.

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Imagine your best selling novel being transformed into a huge tv series in the USA. That's what happened to Alexandra Potter, author of Confessions of a Forty-Something F-Up! Her brilliantly funny inter-generational book was optioned by Disney and will premiere on Disney+ and ABC on 7 February (a month or two later in the UK) renamed 'Not Dead Yet'.

Alexandra joins Liz and Michelle to explain how realising that her life, and those of her friends, were nothing like the perfect lives being conveyed on social media inspired her to write her latest novel. This fun episode provides an insight into what is like to have a novel turned into a TV show by one of the biggest entertainment companies in the world and to know that failing doesn't really mean failure.

 KEY TAKEAWAYS 

• At a certain age, women start to become invisible, despite the fact they have so much to offer which is one reason Alexandra made sure she included older female characters in her novel.
• It does not matter if you are in Yorkshire, London, or LA all women have similar relatable experiences and feel the same about things.
• The way society works makes most people feel like failures when, in reality, they are not failing.
• It´s never too late and you are never too old to change and do what you want.

BEST MOMENTS 

“We were talking about James Bond actors .. and who walks in? Timothy Dalton”

“I was looking at all these kinds of amazing lives, perfect lives, everybody was leading. And it looked nothing like the life I was leading.”

“I just think that women when they age, they become invisible… it just drives me nuts”

“It was kind of like Cinderella going to the ball,”

“You don´t have to put these age limits on things,”

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ABOUT ALEXANDRA POTTER

Born and raised in Yorkshire, Alexandra lived in Australia and LA for several years before settling back in the UK. Now back in London with her Californian husband and a Bosnian rescue dog, Alexandra loves getting out into nature, trying not to look at her phone, and navigating this thing called mid-life.

Her first novel, What’s New, Pussycat? was published in 2000, a week before her 30th birthday, and immediately made the top ten.

She has written 12 novels to date. Including Be Careful What You Wish For, Me and Mr. Darcy, which won the Best New Fiction Award at the Jane Austen Regency World Awards. As well as Love From Paris which was shortlisted for the RNA Comedy Award.

Her latest novel, Confessions of a Forty-something F##k Up, has now been turned into a tv series by Disney+ for ABC in the States, starring Gina Rodriguez as Nell. The show premieres on 8 February of this year.

“Not Dead Yet" follows Nell Stevens (Rodriguez), a broke and newly single self-described disaster, working to restart the life and career she left behind 10 years ago. When she lands the only job she can find – writing obituaries, Nell starts getting life advice from an unlikely source.”

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Michelle and Liz are joined in this episode by Helen Wills who is the author behind the Actually Mummy website and the host of the Teenage Kicks podcast. A show that is all about navigating teen-related parenting issues. Covering subjects that other blogs, forums, and podcasts tend not to cover. Including self-harm, eating disorders, body image, schizophrenia, sexism, avoiding dating dangers, and much more.

During this three women chatting, (2 women plus a Helen) episode, they discuss why she started the podcast, how it works and how it can help. As well as talking about some of the things Helen, as a midlife woman, does to remain energetic and healthy while looking after her two children and running two very busy businesses as she heads towards an empty nest.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Your teenager going through some horrible life experiences does not mean that the rest of their life will also be awful.
• A lot of parents worry that talking about difficult subjects with their kids will give them ideas. The opposite is true, it is far healthier to be ready to talk about these things.
• Don´t feel you have failed as a parent if your teenager has serious issues.
• Don´t judge other parents who have children that do have problems.
• Teenagers are fantastic, don´t fear parenting a teenager.
• Using bright colours can lift your mood and help you to focus on the positives.
• If you see someone looking good in something, tell them. Most people love it.

BEST MOMENTS 

“There are 1000s of Facebook groups where you can talk about toilet training woes or sleepless nights, but not my child is self-harming, or my child has an eating disorder”.

“I´ve done suicide first aid training and they say… you have to say the word…you have to talk about it... if it´s in their heads that is what gets them to open up.”

“If I dress brightly and I´m surrounded by bright colours, I automatically think brightly.”

“I did try a gratitude journal, but it made me feel really ungrateful that I had to fill this damn thing in every night.”

“Say one nice thing a day (to someone), it takes zero effort, and it makes both people feel good”.

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