Neurodiverse Love with Mona Kay

Using Mindfulness to Address Different Needs-Sue Hutton and Jan Wozniak


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To learn more about some of the resources Mona has available you can check out her website at: www.neurodiverselove.com

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During this episode with Sue Hutton and Jan Wozniak you will learn about the work they are doing in their mindfulness program for Autistic adults. In addition, Sue will share a mindfulness exercise that is used in the program they offer. Other topics discussed include the following:

  • Mindfulness helps you understand yourself from the inside out.
  • Applying ancient teachings to current issues.
  • Adapting Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) for Autistic Adults.
  • Mindfulness practices can help if you are feeling overwhelmed in social or sensory situations, or lost in daily life.
  • Mindfulness can also help you increase self compassion.
  • Current therapies may not address the challenges with overstimulation.
    • Co-regulation and reciprocity of energy.
    • In neurodiverse relationships there is a diversity of nervous systems, but partners may not understand the differences.
    • Rigid, ableist protocol may be very difficult for ND individuals.
    • "Mindfulness based stress reduction" curriculum has been modified to be compatible for ND folks and to be congruent with ND nervous systems.
    • Curriculum includes compassion and movement practices.
    • How to be able to cultivate self awareness when you’re alexithymic.
    • Mindfulness can help you connect with the things that might be difficult to access and accept that some things may be a challenge.
    • Learn how to show yourself some kindness and self compassion.
    • Mindfulness can also help with reducing sensory overload.
    • Learning how to calm down your sympathetic response to feel more confidence, safety and control.
    • Jan shares some of the complexities of his mixed neurotype relationship.
    • How moving in together impacted his relationship.
    • Understanding their different social needs and the importance of self regulation.
    • Important to have a partner that is open to effective and ongoing communication.
    • Honoring your needs is very important in a mixed neurotype relationship, as it can help prevent overload or overwhelm.
    • Relationship as practice (Ram Dass).
    • Learn about yourself in your relationship through a journey of self discovery, humility, understanding your sensory and social needs, patience, acceptance, and love.
    • Reflect before you react.
    • Try new practices together.
    • The facility that Sue and Jan work with is the Azrieli Adult Neurodevelopmental Centre, Centre for Addiction and Mental Health (CAMH)-Toronto, Canada


      • You can contact Jan at: [email protected] or 
      •  https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/therapists/jan-a-wozniak-toronto-on/1252465
      • You can contact Sue Hutton at: https://www.suehuttonmindfulness.com
      • For more information on expressing your needs check out this short video from the Gottman Institute:
        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EfcVKBhIjIo


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